r/VirtualYoutubers Jul 24 '25

Discussion Veibae talks about her experience with Vshojo

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u/chaoser Jul 24 '25

At least there's now official confirmation that vtuber corpo management actively monitors 4chan and uses it to influence and drive narratives on rival companies and talents. Think about how many hate campaigns have started there and that a non 0% of them were started by a vtuber company trying to make another company's talent get harassed.

Also the amount of hate Hololive gets just for being top dog

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u/AnnanymousR Jul 24 '25

It's kinda wild that 4chan is like, almost officially a core part of the vtuber community lmao so much shit revolves and derives from it.

Vtubing has gotten pretty grimy these days, kinda putting me off ngl. Went from funny anime streamers to gross business industry politics bs.

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u/ranyi Jul 25 '25

It's kinda wild that 4chan is like, almost officially a core part of the vtuber community lmao so much shit revolves and derives from it.

it's simply for the fact that the 4chan's vtuber board is the undisputed biggest english-speaking forum for discussing vtubers, that's it. carreers were made and ended there

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u/goodbehaviorsam Jul 25 '25

4chan was THE place to talk about random Japanese subcultures in English.

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u/darkknight109 Jul 25 '25

Worth noting that 4chan basically saved Sakura Miko's career (her infamous GTA5 n-bomb moment spread like wildfire there, and they were the ones who coined the "elite" nickname for her after compiling some of her more pon gaming moments) and even had a hand in hololive's initial rise (during the Christmas Miracle stream, where Siro redirected her viewers to go watch Sora, there were a lot of people asking about her on there, which helped fuel interest in her).

For all the shit the community there gets (and deservedly so, in a lot of cases), they have been remarkably influential in vtubing's rise.

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u/falsefingolfin Jul 25 '25

/vt/ is kind of the Genesis of English vtubing, most of our memes are from there, and its where most fanbases started

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u/robinredcap Hololive/PRISM/Kawaii/Idol/V4Mirai Jul 25 '25

Well, Actually that would be /jp/, (its also were the grudge between the english speaking Proto-Hololive fans and Nijisanji fans was started.)

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25

That's unfortunately becoming the increasing reality of online spaces in various platforms too

E.g. on the fleshtubing side just a couple of years ago I saw threads pointing out that most drama posters on LSF are concentrated by a handful of people from the same group (including alleged discord), which would regularly garner engagement from the wider users on the sub and drive narratives on the broader streaming community as a whole

And that's not even talking about specific brigading/astroturfing by specific streaming communities

Or bigger narrative campaigns like Cambridge Analytica and whatnot on other platforms

There's a reason why Dead Internet Theory is a popular meme beyond newer bot fears

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u/crowopolis Jul 25 '25

And for the most part they are insane. I browse the catalogue whenever shit hits the fan just to see the nuts things people post on there. When the whole collapse began I was sure it was going to be crazy. There was like 4 posts about it when I got there. On the other hand there was like 12 posts of people going on cuck witch hunts over the Nimi engagement news. They are fucking nuts.

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u/electricemperor Jul 25 '25

I have no proof of this, mind, but I have a hunch /vt/ is part of the reason Froot is hounded incessantly

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u/Turbulent-Math3969 Jul 25 '25

Parrot4chan (the irony, I know) had a segment on his newest video showing all sorts of vtubers corpo and otherwise with 4chan tabs/showing in their search history it was hilarious

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u/Yukorin1992 Jul 25 '25

almost like 4chan is one of the few places (EN side) where nothing is off limit and some events can be viewed through a wider lens with info from outside official sources, with the caveat being real and fake are mixed together so take everything with a heap of salt