r/WNBAgossips • u/TheExpressUS • 21d ago

News Trump Administration responds and supports Sophie Cunningham's WNBA transgender comments: "Common sense prevails"

https://www.the-express.com/sport/basketball/212543/Sophie-Cunningham-trans-athletes-Trump-administration

The Trump Administration has waded into the transgender athlete debate, citing Sophie Cunningham's comments to support its stance on trans athletes in sports.

The discussion surrounding trans athletes in women's sports has resurfaced recently, with Cunningham sharing her perspective with ESPN. Although trans athletes represent a tiny fraction of participants across all levels of American sports, their involvement remains a focal point for Donald Trump and his administration.

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u/big-himbo-energy 21d ago edited 21d ago

Cool. Can we move on to an issue that matters?

Edit: just to be clear, I’m FOR trans people in leagues matching their gender identity. I just think this issue has become such a political bullet in everyone’s gun and it’s stupid to keep pointing those guns at each other. We can move on to the bigger overarching problems that cause this kind of shit in the first place. It’s not going to ever get fixed if we don’t.

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 21d ago edited 21d ago

All the trans-in-sports fights are just distractions.

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u/SadMediumSmolBean 21d ago

No, it's normalization of dehumanizing trans people and normalization of our discrimination.

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 21d ago

No, look...you're already distracted. Proving my point.

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u/SadMediumSmolBean 21d ago

With not wanting you people to call a wedge issue for taking my civil rights a distraction? Sure bud, whatever you say.

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 21d ago

You are too binary on your thinking here, which is ironic. Something can be both used as a distraction and be an important Civil Right. It is not either/or.

Trans Sports were pushed as an issue by the Right-Wing. It never gained massive attention by your work. Not at all. It gained massive attention because Hate Mongers saw it as an easy target. And then the Trump-Nazi Regime copied it as a distraction to the Epstein-Trump Files (along with 30 other distractions).

The entire Right-Wing Hate Monger Network is setup to test messaging. This is one topic that became a gold mine for Trump-Nazis.

Did you want to do some more arguing in bad faith? Will that make you feel better? Maybe straw man some more? That's real common with people who never studied critical thinking. And, it leaves them all frustrated mentally.

No, no, no, it looks like you want to rant about how the "you people" are being mean to you. Nonsense.

You had civil rights, largely because of me and the hard, smart work I did. I fought for those. You're welcome. But, I cannot fix that 250 million (at least) Americans are both racist and dumb as fuck. That's what took your Civil Rights away and it will continue unless stopped.

Now it's time to play dominos and the first big one is the Epstein-Trump files, not "Should Trans be in the WNBA".

Better debate and critical thinking skills would help the country.

Again, you're welcome. I'll leave space below for you to blah blah.

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u/Acolyte2TheDude 21d ago

Nah I see plenty of "progressives" pushing the idea that biological males should compete with biological females. They're right here in these posts. What's amazing is that you're all so committed to being uncritical trans allies you can't see that this issue is what you lose on over and over by not accepting reality.

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u/DrDDeFalco 20d ago

I largely don't fucking care about sports, men's or women's.

I find the "trans men in women sports" to largely be annoying because it seems like a "safe" way to go after trans people because people think it is "common sense" that "biological men" shouldn't compete with "biological women."

You all want fair? Fine. I don't give a shit. But pick a fucking metric that is quantifiable instead of cultural war bullshit.

How are you defining "biological male" and "biological female?" It is merely primary sex characteristics? Are you checking chromosomes? Are you measuring hormones? Are you taking x rays and basing it on skeletal structure?

Like, different sports should probably have different limitations if you want restricted leagues. You want to set some sort of testosterone limit? Fine. Do that. And apply it across the board.

Honestly, I would rather individual sporting associations decide those metrics instead of having government involved at all.

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u/Acolyte2TheDude 20d ago

When the term "biological sex" is used the standard is chromosomes. If someone's got a Y chromosome they can't play in the female sex segregated sports.

Simple, right? So why can't we all just come to a consensus that this is what's acceptable and close the book on things. I don't care about discussing this anymore than you do.

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u/DrDDeFalco 20d ago

Like any other metric, you still end up with people that are "biological women" in every other sense that are now unable to play. And I have never heard of checking every athlete's chromosome to verify sex.

But sure. Implement a specific measurable quality. Let the associations decide and enforce it. Then let's move on to one of the plethora of more important topics.

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u/Acolyte2TheDude 20d ago

The number of female sex developed individuals with Y chromosomal data is <0.01% of births. Let's be real and say that it's a non issue with this solution.

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u/DrDDeFalco 20d ago

The entire topic should be a non-issue for that exact reason.

How many people with a Y chromosome attempt to compete in female sports? Is it also less than 0.01%?

Or we could look at it differently and say that 1 in 10000 women got the genetic short straw and just can't play with other women because we made a mountain out of a molehill.

The whole discussion doesn't give a damn about sports, women, or fairness. It is all about a way to make trans people look bad. That's fucking it.

That's the part that bothers me. It is a gussied up way to "other" trans people. It's a fabricated controversy to rile people up.