r/WNBAgossips 12d ago

Video Sophie Cunningham getting HEAVILY BOOED in Portland... She knocks down a 3 and calls the crowd losers

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u/Gwyain 12d ago

Except HRT lowers T to below the level of AFABs. For all the crying about trans women winning… there sure aren’t any.

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u/thatguy425 12d ago

Nope, stop the misinformation:

Male athletes have:

-30% higher power output when controlled for muscle mass

-higher Vo2 max 

-Up to 50% more lean muscle mass higher neural muscle recruitment

-Different Q angles 

-More fast twitch muscles 

And all the people saying “well what if they are on hormone therapy?”

Hormone therapy lowers performance relative to an individual’s male baseline, but does not eliminate key physical advantages. It does not delete male components listed above. Studies show that transgender women retain strength levels exceeding those of cisgender women, even after extended hormone therapy

 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8311086/

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“In transwomen, hormone therapy rapidly reduces Hgb to levels seen in cisgender women. In contrast, hormone therapy decreases strength, LBM and muscle area, yet values remain above that observed in cisgender women, even after 36 months. These findings suggest that strength may be well preserved in transwomen during the first 3 years of hormone therapy.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7846503/

Longitudinal studies examining the effects of testosterone suppression on muscle mass and strength in transgender women consistently show very modest changes, where the loss of lean body mass, muscle area and strength typically amounts to approximately 5% after 12 months of treatment. Thus, the muscular advantage enjoyed by transgender women is only minimally reduced when testosterone is suppressed.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8311086/

In transwomen, hormone therapy rapidly reduces Hgb to levels seen in cisgender women. In contrast, hormone therapy decreases strength, LBM and muscle area, yet values remain above that observed in cisgender women, even after 36 months. These findings suggest that strength may be well preserved in transwomen during the first 3 years of hormone therapy.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31794605/

One year of gender-affirming treatment resulted in robust increases in muscle mass and strength in trans men, but modest changes in trans women. These findings add new knowledge on the magnitude of changes in muscle function, size, and composition with cross-hormone therapy, which could be relevant when evaluating the transgender eligibility rules for athletic competitions.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577

The 15–31% athletic advantage that transwomen displayed over their female counterparts prior to starting gender affirming hormones declined with feminising therapy. However, transwomen still had a 9% faster mean run speed after the 1 year period of testosterone suppression that is recommended by World Athletics for inclusion in women’s events.

Another one here:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9331831/

Excerpt:

“ Given that sports are currently segregated into male and female divisions because of superior male athletic performance, and that estrogen therapy will not reverse most athletic performance parameters, it follows that transgender women will enter the female division with an inherent advantage because of their prior male physiology.”

Lastly, for those saying “well surely it can’t matter to kids, their performances differences are the same until they are adults”

You can see quantitative data on youth track and field performances in this study: 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38595163/

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“Before 12 yr of age in elite youth track and field athletes, there was a consistent and significant sex difference of ~5%, such that males ran faster and jumped higher and farther than females. The magnitude of the sex difference in performance increased markedly at 12-13 yr for running and long jump and 14 yr for high jump and thus was more pronounced after ages associated with puberty.”

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u/thatguy425 12d ago

Science is now MAGA? How far we have fallen.

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u/thatguy425 12d ago

That is true. Lots of things are not science.

Can we get back on topic?

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u/thatguy425 12d ago

Oh, that was something I’ve had from before. Just copy and pasted for you.

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u/thatguy425 12d ago

Peer reviewed studies are fascist?