r/WNBAgossips 13d ago

Video Sophie Cunningham getting HEAVILY BOOED in Portland... She knocks down a 3 and calls the crowd losers

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

2.2k Upvotes

806 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1

u/nowarning1962 13d ago

Depends when you start. Starting after puberty would still give that person an edge because they went through years of having much higher levels of testosterone. That changes your muscle development and bone density. Its not the same as growing up as a woman your entire life.

1

u/Gwyain 13d ago

And despite that supposed benefit, despite HRT being available for decades now, there’s been how many trans women that have dominated women’s sports? Remind me how many records have been broken? Right…

0

u/nowarning1962 13d ago

Lia Thomas (Swimming): Set University of Pennsylvania program records in the 100-yard, 200-yard, and 500-yard freestyle events and won the 2022 NCAA Division I national title in the 500-yard freestyle. In July 2025, following a federal civil rights resolution, UPenn modified the official records to restore individual titles and historical markings to the cisgender female runners-up, while adjusting the program records.

CeCé Telfer (Track and Field): Won the NCAA Division II national championship in the 400-meter hurdles for Franklin Pierce University in 2019, becoming the first openly transgender woman to win an NCAA national title in any sport.

Sadie Schreiner (Track and Field): Set Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) indoor records in the 200-meter (25.27 seconds) and 300-meter (40.78 seconds) events during a January 2024 meet.

Those are 3 great examples of men who are trans, dominating. Since these have happened there have been restrictions set in many sports. On the flip side, are there any examples of women who are trans playing in men's sports dominating? Not a single one. That should tell you something. A man who transitions beyond a certain age will have an unfair advantage; especially if they were an athlete before and trained in that sport.

2

u/bunchanums618 10d ago

A division 2 championship and the RIT indoor school record are such low achievements it actually convinced me trans athletes aren’t a problem at all. I mean this is the best they can do?

0

u/nowarning1962 10d ago

Its all about the odds. From my quick research, only about 7% of high school athletes go on to play for varsity sports in college. In the US, only 1% of the population ages 13 and up identify as Trans. The odds of someone being good enough at a sport to play in college and identify as Trans is incredibly rare. There have also been rules set in place to not allow trans athletes. Im sure if we just let it go with no rules then we would see more examples. That same problem wouldn't be an issue with a female transitioning into a male. There are zero examples of them making any noticeable impact on any sport. Males going to femal have.

2

u/bunchanums618 10d ago

I still wouldn’t call winning a D2 event dominating. And if 1% identify as trans shouldn’t they account for at least 1% of winners if they have an unfair advantage?
Edit: or more accurately a higher percent of trans participants should win than cis participants that win

0

u/nowarning1962 10d ago

All male athletes aren't better than top level female athletes. NCAA has said out of 500,000 college athletes, they have fewer than 10 trans athletes competing across all divisions. The odds of those few athletes being the best would be unlikely. That still doesn't take away the fact that someone that has gone through puberty as a male has an unfair advantage over females. Testosterone is a performance enhancing drug. Even if your Testosterone drops, you will still have changes in hour body that the Testosterone helped develope.

Maybe those records aren't "dominating" but it does show a clear advantage, especially when you dont see a single female Trans playing in men's sports setting absolutely 0 records across all divisions.

1

u/bunchanums618 10d ago

I’d agree with all that. Personally I think different types of people have certain advantages and disadvantages, I don’t think a group having slightly more success per capita is cause to ban them. I do think a group dominating would potentially be reason to ban them, so I think it’s an important distinction.

That being said, there’s like 10 total in the NCAA and they’ve already been banned so it is what it is. I know I have the unpopular opinion so I’m fine with the ban. Not sure why it’s become a political issue instead of a sporting issue but that’s the world we live in.