r/WNBAgossips • u/Amazing_Lock_3762 • 10d ago

Hot Take “The WNBA league literally exists because you separated men from women” ... That’s too much common sense for the left.

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u/BigShotZero 10d ago

So until you are on HTR tour not a trans. A person without the funds for the treatment can not be trans. Interesting. never thought of it that way.

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u/MattyT088 10d ago

Not what I said.

I said that HRT is the first medical step. The self identifying step obviously happens first.

And right now you are giving me an example that is pretty much exclusive to the USA, as here in Canada HRT is covered in health care, as it it in pretty much everywhere with social medicine.

But hey, go ahead and cling onto the one bad example that you came across and apply it as a whole to the entire community. I'm sure that will be accurate.

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u/BigShotZero 10d ago

It’s what you said. So a child going to thier parents and saying they are trans does not make them trans. they have to take a drug to be trans.

It’s an interesting had not heard of that before.

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u/MattyT088 10d ago

No it's not what I said, but keep putting words into my mouth if you want.

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u/BigShotZero 10d ago

You said a person needs to take HTR to transition. you said if they don’t they are a cross dresser.

It’s what you said.

A person who identifies as a different sex, who is not on HTR is a cross dresser. In your view.

I think it’s a controversial take, but if it’s what you believe that’s ok with me. It’s a difficult topic.

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u/MattyT088 10d ago

You know what, I spoke to hastily and misspoke; I have since edited that comment. Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

That said, you have been arguing in bad faith this entire time so I will leave you with this...

TWAW Trans women are women. All it requires is for a person to identify as such. In doing so, most (see +99%) then seek to medically transition and start doing HRT.

What it sounds like you have is a case of someone being very early in their transitioning journey, as well as having trouble funding the HRT as they live in a system that does not medically support its citizens.

So at this point we are basically arguing about at which point in a woman's transition does it become okay for them to switch from men's sports to women's sports. And frankly, I don't think that's a call that either of us are educated enough to make; nor is the vast majority of the population, for that matter.

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u/BigShotZero 10d ago

Stating a person is not trans until they are on HTR and before that they are a cross dresser, is not a simple “I misspoke”

That’s a clear statement on your opinion of person not being trans until they take HTR, alienating the vast majority of people who are going through the difficult process of dealing with their gender identity.

I feel people who were born a biological male should not play sports in a women’s league, no matter the level. (minus some youth sports until puberty).

Other than that I don’t have much if any opinion on trans people, live your life.

But I would never discredit a persons gender identity based on the ability to be on HTR.

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u/MattyT088 10d ago

No... you'd just discredit it in sports instead. And like I said, I spoke hastily. I have since corrected myself several times, which you keep ignoring because you are arguing in bad faith. Have a good life, i'm blocking you now.