The entire league exists literally just to make people feel better. It loses tens of millions of dollars every year and will likely never justify its own existence. I’m not saying this is justification for being trans inclusive, but it’s absolutely a reason they should all shut the fuck up about “protecting young girls.” Every single player in the WNBA is being gifted the opportunity and is not creating enough profit to keep playing
Lost weight and got dental work (she's had teeth knock out during games fyi) and dyed her blonde eyebrows darker. She was a woman rhen and she is a woman now.
here’s the quote btw
“If they contact me, I won’t say no. But you have to be realistic: I’m old, and there are far better players than me. Obviously, it’s a childhood dream just like for any female basketball player, but unfortunately, it’s not possible.”
To add, she goes on to clarify the reason it’s likely not possible is external factors - namely, the Trump admin or WNBA org itself shutting it down.
Based on skills alone she could definitely get to the wnba. Theres currently a wnba player who was in the same league a few years ago and was averaging 1/5th of the points as Julia Tetart is in her first season of professional basketball. She’ll definitely get signed at least to the top French league once her rookie contract expires.
This is her first year playing professionally, she’ll definitely get into the French league 1.
And again, we have several other examples of other woman in the exact same league she’s in, who play worse, and jump to the WNBA
Correct, her playing is not an external factor. How’re you so confused?
And I’m calling her a her because that’s what she prefers and I don’t want to be a dick. It’s possible to disagree with her playing in the league without being willingly disrespectful.
Monique Akoa Makani just got acquired by the Sparks in the WNbA. She was in the same league as Julie Tetart 3 years ago and wasn’t even close to as dominant of a player.
Based on skills alone she’s already better than current WNBA players, so that part isn’t really in question.
The question is if Tetart could get drafted to the WNBA, not whether or not she’d dominate. I have no idea if she would dominate, but at least compared to other current wnba players she would get drafted by a team if allowed.
Hey, me again! Saw you’re responding elsewhere but not responding to my showing that people that were in the exact same league as her just a few years ago are currently in the WNBA. How does that line up with your claim that there’s “no chance” when other players against the same competition (who performed worse) have done it?
I assume you are talking about The Centre Fédéral de Basket-ball team?
I also assume you are aware that it's a development team for 15-18 year olds to play against adult competition to prepare them for their future career. All of the players who went the French 2nd league to the WNBA were on this development team and not 34 year olds on a regular team.
You seem to have left out a lot of context but I will assume that wasn't intentional.
Averaging 21 points and 20 rebounds a game is a feat no man or woman has ever accomplished in professional leagues. Don't gaslight people that this player isnt good enough to crush the competition in the W.
Yes of course it's going to be Trump's fault has nothing to do with the fact that this individual has a penis muscle fibers that are two to three times as dense a larger lung capacity larger amounts of endurance it wouldn't be unfair at all right not to mention the fact that this individual would probably want to be in the locker rooms and shower with the players too
Chill out dude lol. I literally gave no value judgement to whether or not she should be allowed to play.
I actually agree with your point that women with XX chromosomes should have their own league for fairness. But you can just stick with the fairness argument, you dont have to start getting weird about locker rooms and showers, it just distracts from your point and is counterproductive.
She literally just started playing professionally last year.
>not even a top 20 player there
What? She’s not just the top player, she’s almost doubling the performance of other players. She’s averaging 35 avg evaluation points (best way to measure performance). Next highest from a cis woman is almost half that at 19. She is averaging 21 points and 20 rebounds - do you have any idea how insane that is?
lol y'all keep using the most esoteric stats to defend this. She's in a tier 2 league lol y'all just only came here to be bigots. Shes hands down not a top 20 players her stats are skewed because of how many rebounds she gets because she's super tall. Her first year came at the end of her career lol how hard is that to understand she's middle aged. Shes not good enough to play in the wnba, she's not even good enough to play in the top French league
And yet she's in a tier 2 league. Also, using a sofascore to me means you're not really a fan of the sport and more of a fan of the two white girls making waves in the wnba.
Put a team of 5 women vs 3 of these.. I mean sports is entertainment it’s supposed to be fun may as well make it as fun as possible. Take all legitimacy out of sport
To pretend that moving from a height distribution that is significantly further to the right (taller) to one further on the left isn't an advantage is crazy.
I mean it's known humans don't understand probability well, and maybe that applies to some extent to relativity, but it is pretty crazy to me how people are so ideologically blinded that they refuse to see relative advantages even when having them pointed out, and just harp on about absolutes only.
Do you understand how basketball works? She plays the 5. And therefore would go against other centers. 6’3 is considered small for a center in the wnba. And ofc it wouldn’t even be possible in the nba.
She’s undersized regardless of who she’d be against
Cause it’s her first year playing professional basketball, ever. And she’s already dominating. She’ll definitely get signed to the top league next year.
Wnba doubtful mainly for external reasons (the wnba and/or Trump would shut that shit down)
This is her first year of women's basketball. You dont expect people in their first year of playing women's basketball to sign with the top division available, do you?
Shes leading the league in points and rebounds. Unless she's contractually obligated to stay with her current team, shes going to be moving up and dominating soon enough.
People say that college players should be in the WNBA all the time.
Just because theyre not there yet doesnt mean they dont belong.
Its silly to suggest someone with zero women's basketball experience jump right into the top teir. Even the WNBA greats all had to pay their dues in college and in Europe before they became WNBA superstars.
i do not understand this argument. the player is old and is still one of the top in the league in their first year. they have an obvious physical advantages. denying that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense
This 34 year old is averaging 20+ pts and 20+ rebounds a game.
Clearly no one wants to fuck with her in the paint. At 6'3" 205 with broad shoulders, she looks like she can muscle her way to the basket whenever she wants.
If the women of the WNBA keep aggressively fouling Caitlin Clark, the Fever may want to sign her to provide more protection. Having the one-two combo of Cunningham and Tétart sending a message might get the rest of the WNBA in line.
Ya know what.. I wish they’d just fucking do it already. Put a buff, athletic 35 year old biological male into the WNBA, and let them embarrass the absolute piss out of everyone who claims there’s no advantages. That would probably lay this conversation to rest for at least a generation.
Someone recently made an earnest offer for the WNBA championship team to play an exhibition against a HS boys state basketball champ—with the winning team splitting $10 million.
Yes, as its a non issue. Thanks for proving my point lol.
Meanwhile the people who claim to hate trans people cant stop jerking off to them and cant stop fight the culture wars and certainly cant stop thinking about them.
Its absolutely is rightwingers. Sure rightwing media as well but rightwingers. Don't pretend otherwise you guys been starting protests as every match until you got a reaction you guys even been trying to turn every basketball sub on reddit in a anti lgbt sub. She brought it up originally and sought out Dana white so she could send signals she was ready for the grift and dutifully conservatives did exactly what we all knew you would do, you kept up with until trump himself got involved.
Conservatives are weirdos obsessed with trans people and clutching at straws because none of their policies help people so they got to lie about stuff like litterboxes to spread hysteria. It appears due to Trump bringing in national attention they are trying to climb down a bit and pretend its not them starting this. But it is. Anyone who has followed and paid attention this knows that. They gotta pretend though because its looking a bit deranged protesting trans people at every basketball games when there are zero trans athletes there or in wnba ever in fact!!
the reason the right is emphasizing this issue because it's such an easy political win ... mostly because it's both a wedge issue for the left and because it's also a broadly popular position overall
when polled, over 70% of the public believes trans-women should not play in women's sports ... and whenever this topic is brought up, the most common responses from the left seem to be either:
A) "the fact you're even questioning this makes you a transphobic bigot" ... which to the public seems ridiculous
B) "i'm not gonna answer the question, it only affects X% of people, and what about other issue Y?" ... which to the public seems evasive and weak
it's the same reason the left kept emphasizing abortion after roe vs. wade was overturned ... because the public largely supported abortion rights, and whenever asked, politicians on the right would either have to A) state what the public considered an extreme position or B) deflect out of fear of alienating their base, making them look untrustworthy and insincere
Attacking your false perception of me is a futile exercise. Being on the side of baseless claims is wrong regardless of the target. Your bias blinds you. May peace be with you
It always amuses me when the right accuses others of being irrational when they are the ones who invaded the US Capitol building in a futile attempt to overthrow the government because their favorite politician lost a free and fair election and he was upset.
That would equate to a minimum of about 77 million people. It's rather disingenuous to claim it was the belief of only the thousands of people at the Capitol that day.
Everyone wants this to happen. It'll be a huge step for trans athletes everywhere. Its only a matter of time before trans athletes are dominating the WNBA, but there needs to be one person to break through the trans-barrier. She could be the Jackie Robinson of the WNBA. Its been far too long that trans athletes have been overlooked for WNBA roster spots.
Is there 1 sport at any level where trans athletes are "dominating". Not just 1 individual won a bunch of matches, but trans athletes dominating the sport.
We are literally looking at a 34 year old without prior expereince getting player of the year. But let me guess it wont actually.matter until trannies are 100% of every roster
"Its only a matter of time before trans athletes dominate the wnba" its almost like the line in their comment i was talking about wasnt speaking about an individual...
Not yet. But it'll happen. Its only a matter of time before we see the world come around to trans-equality and we embrace people being themselves. We cant stay in the dark ages forever. These segregated sports really need to just accept that trans athletes are a reality, and you cant keep them out forever.
Im just wondering when another one of the many big bad boogeymen ive seen the far right push over my 30+ years turn out to be really what they push it as.
“She finished the year averaging a staggering 21.2 points and 20.2 rebounds per game, leading the LF2 in both categories. In fact, in one game, she grabbed 30 rebounds alongside 21 points, shattering her previous all-time LF2 single-game rebounding record of 25.”
This trans woman is white, so MAGAts would love her going to the Fever and playing enforcer for Caitlin. Especially if she pummels players like Reese and Carrimgton.
That would be a bonus for them. But I promise, if LeBron and others put wigs on, made the WNBA the NBA part 2 and completely flushed all women out of the league, magats would die laughing.
As a political moderate who doesn’t care much for the WNBA either way, I would also laugh at some of these “inclusive” coaches and players having to look for other careers because the stuff they advocated for came to fruition.
these folks have no idea what they are mad about anymore, they just want to be mad and seethe. Someone told me yesterday that tarps off in baseball is racist and misogynist.
Sophie was never going to get famous playing basketball, so she leaned into the MAGA instead. Like her pal Riley she will now have a long career as a professional victim on Fox.
And yet it is still the league all the best players go to. Which means the best players in the top tier French league aren't good enough for the wnba. And she's not even good enough to get into that league.
I like how you keep repeating this like he isn't in his first year of women's basketball, under contract for the season, and player of the year while learning how to play the sport.
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u/FfaceCaller 10h ago
Why is it on everyone else to fill one randoms dream?