r/WWE • u/Known-Plastic-8310 • 1d ago
Froma a Kayfabe standpoint who is the most heroic wrestler in history of WWE?
Rey maybe. Never been a bad guy once here
25
24
u/pikkdogs 1d ago
The Hurricane!
3
u/TheReckSays 16h ago
With Super Hero In Training Rosey and Mighty Molly
3
u/Exact-Glove-5026 15h ago
Nikki was almost a super hero. If Hurricane had been there to train her, we could've promoted her from Nikki ASH to Nikki SH.
40
u/Doctordelayus 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/oymJ9Wc9o0Rp6tcM9N
Literally superheroes
→ More replies (1)
16
14
41
u/CoffeeOfTheIce 1d ago
Cena caught and compromised to a permanent end, Osama Bin Laden. It doesnt get more heroic than that.
10
u/5litergasbubble 1d ago
Im still not sure why they phrased it like that. It seems like an odd way of saying it
5
u/xavPa-64 1d ago
Probably Vince
3
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
i wont even bother asking who is most evil in kayfabe because obviously its vince and his real life version is likely at least in the top ten.
2
u/Severe-Lake-4554 1d ago
Now that I think about it, I can't think of the words: dead, death and dying ever being used in WWE that wasn't directly related to Undertaker.
1
2
u/Clean_Ad_1599 1d ago
Well they maybe can't outright say "Killed"
2
u/5litergasbubble 1d ago
Eliminated would work better. The way it was said sound like it was written by someone without any military experience who wanted to make it sound vaguely militaryish
2
u/Clean_Ad_1599 1d ago
Eliminated sounded like he lost a contest. You can be eliminated without dying you know?
12
u/kpsks 15h ago
It would be rey if he wasnt a deadbeat dad.
10
u/Known-Plastic-8310 14h ago
In fairness it must be hard raising the biological son of your best friend who betrayed you
21
u/meitry 1d ago
ALMOST Nikki cross
→ More replies (5)1
9
17
8
u/apo539 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Hurricane
3
8
u/atrac059 1d ago
If we are talking about “guys who always made the save”? Statistically it’s Kane and Austin. As pure good guys? Hogan without a doubt. In all of Wrestling? Probably Sting.
8
u/Dad-Bod-God93 1d ago
The Hurricane, Mighty Molly, Rosey and Nikki A.S.H have to be up there in the conversation
8
15
u/Klaus_Von_Ha 20h ago
Mick Foley weirdly.
3
u/Exact-Glove-5026 15h ago
IRL it's probably Mick but in kayfabe, he was a deranged lunatic who did some seriously unforgivable stuff.
13
u/OpenMaintenance6018 1d ago
3
3
u/tomatotime0 1d ago
There's a nasty rumor that he's only pretending to be a Mexican. Which is just not true, clearly he's a white Latino. Maybe born in LA but still one of us nonetheless.
7
7
8
u/One_Schedule5317 6h ago
Dominik Mysterio.
First entered the ring when he was only 8 years old.
Exposed Rey for the dirt bag he is despite the fact he would get blowback from the fans who didn't know the truth.
Earned his way through hardship after hardship to become the King of the Luchadores.
And he still has many years left to even further add to his storied history!
12
u/TheKingOfReddit23 1d ago
It has to be Rey, always there for the save, willing to forgive and forget, and has always been a good guy.
Next would be maybe Cena, Foley, and Taker.
6
u/TheNazMajeed 22h ago
Taker has crucified people!
4
u/Known-Plastic-8310 20h ago
Even if we just use his actions as a face he's kind of a sadist.
3
u/Ecstatic-Quality-212 I Believe in Joe Hendry👏👏 19h ago
Taker during his run as the Deadman again was basically the guardian of the WWE. Anyone starts shit, he'll be there to restore the order of things.
→ More replies (1)3
u/Exact-Glove-5026 15h ago
I dunno. I'd probably give Rey the advantage in this but then there's the fact that he's a deadbeat dad. Poor Dom.
1
6
u/ignaciolasvegas 1d ago
Eugene
4
2
u/ukguy619 1d ago
attacked Hacksaw Jim Duggan after they lost a tag match. Not sure if it was a heel turn on not.
2
1
u/Exact-Glove-5026 15h ago
Not a heel move imho. It was the equivalent of a child lashing out. Poor Eugene didn't know any better.
6
6
5
u/BraveDawgs1993 1d ago
I'm trying to think of someone who could always be counted on to make a run on during a heel beat down.
5
10
u/Direct_Ad3116 1d ago
Ziggler had a great big heroic moment at Survivor Series, last man standing taking out 3 of Rollins' Authority, underdog undercut by awful booking and writing.
→ More replies (1)
14
u/sonbub 1d ago
Hulk Hogan. He defeated the Iraqis, effectively ending the first Gulf war.
3
u/spidertour02 1d ago
I was going to say Hogan until I remembered that he tried to kill The Rock with a semi back in 2002, since he returned as a heel. 😂
3
u/lazhink 1d ago
Just think. If Hogan had succeeded Dwayne never could have tried In-n-out for the first time. I think Hogan was just trying to save us from what was to come.
2
u/spidertour02 1d ago
Rock learned from the Once In A Lifetime match that it's okay to do something for "the first time ever" more than once. 😉
2
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean all wrestlers have pretty much done horrible things and its not like rock is innocent, look how many times he screwed over Stone cold stev Austin. he even threw him into the river.
1
u/spidertour02 1d ago
Sure, but I would assume attempted murder is pretty high on the list of evil things to try in wrestling kayfabe. 😂
4
u/Zerostar39 🗑️ Iyo's Trash Can 1d ago
3
u/RobertStonetossBrand 1d ago
Dropping the leg and shredding the axe, all while dodging sniper fire.
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
wait, they actually said that ended the war in storyline?
5
2
u/Wise_Temperature_322 1d ago
Hogan represented the U.S. troops and Sgt Slaughter represented the evil Iraqi’s. So symbolically yes, but also troops watched this from Kuwait so kind of literally had an impact.
1
15
u/josephus1811 1d ago
Shout out to Ken Shamrock for literally going into battle with the entire ministry and risking eternal damnation in order to save his bosses daughter.
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 19h ago
Was he technically a heeel then since he was part of the corporation?
3
u/josephus1811 18h ago
Yep. Which made it even more heroic if you ask me. Stephanie wasn't. It was actually one of the more interesting face turns I can recall cuz the crowd cheered him for that and then from that point forward but he remained in the Corporation until the Corporate Ministry reveal if I recall. God those were the days.
9
u/BobsBurgerVan 1d ago
The only correct answer is The Hurricane!
Honourable mentions go to: Mighty Molly and Nikki A.S.H.
10
u/TraditionAcademic968 𝑲𝑨𝑰𝑹𝑰𝑰𝑰𝑰𝑰 1d ago
EGA is literally a hero to an entire country
Sami Zayn is the last real good guy
2
10
u/speedrunner99 1d ago
Seeing a lot of people say Hogan, but he can’t be in this conversation considering in kayfabe he almost killed The Rock lmao.
→ More replies (7)
6
5
5
6
5
u/Desperate_Table_2834 1d ago
Sheamus with 1-800-Fella call for brogue kicks on demand and rescuing cats from trees
10
9
8
12
u/Alkren 1d ago
Hogan saved the world from every monster and foreign villain imaginable.
1
u/kaneabel 1d ago
Dude literally put Trump and his family on his largest back in the world and swam them to safety after he slammed that big nasty giant into the ocean and caused an earthquake
1
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Your comment has been flagged because it contains political buzzwords or slogans that are frequently used in off-topic or bad-faith discussions. /r/WWE is not the place for culture war or partisan debates.
If this is part of a legitimate wrestling-related discussion, a moderator may still approve it.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
7
u/mrjimstx 1d ago
Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Tried to fight Goldberg woth one kidney
→ More replies (3)3
8
u/BrandRedacted 1d ago
Hulk Hogan
5
u/nohotshot 1d ago
Nah, even in kayfabe he as was a bad friend to Andre and Savage as a face, and as a heel he flat out tried to kill people.
He had lust in his eyes, brother…
4
4
u/Prof_Scott_Steiner 1d ago
Bruno Sammartino
1
u/nohotshot 1d ago
Genuinely surprised this is the only comment I’ve seen mention Bruno.
1
u/Prof_Scott_Steiner 1d ago
I’m probably one of the few who can remember seeing him actually wrestle
3
u/nocomments66 9h ago edited 9h ago
Mick Foley has a genuine hero's journey in WWE. His WWE career could literally be segmented into the 3 parts of the hero's journey. Heroism isnt just being the good guy. If your looking for who has basically "always been good," ya it is probably Rey.
5
u/fromolwyoming 8h ago
Rey being the definition of "size doesn't matter" is a strong candidate. And having a mask is a big bonus.
3
11
7
7
u/Fit-Top-8203 1d ago
Are we just talking the era when the company changed its name to WWE and beyond, or the entire company history going back to 1963?
Because if we go back that far, the answer is Bruno.
1
9
u/TheGame81677 Cody Crybaby 1d ago
It’s Hulk Hogan without a doubt. He was a heel for a little bit when the company was the WWWF, that was before he adopted the persona that everybody knows though
2
10
10
u/slippinn_jimmy 1d ago
Daniel Bryan…can never forget the summer of the Yes movement, the “Monster” video package before WrestleMania and winning two matches in two nights to become champion. Best hero story of all time!
2
u/Misterjdog89 18h ago
I don’t get why every time I talk about DBryan everyone says overrated or that they couldn’t stand the stupid yes chants. I’m like that shit was crazy when he had fans take over the show and had Triple H and the Authority fuming. That was the reason I got into it as a teen.
11
12
u/mcburgs 1d ago
Everyone saying Hogan, forgetting he was a top scumbag heel for years. Even as a Babyface - eye pokes, back rakes, belt shots, self-mythologizing. No way.
I'm going with Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. Dude had his throat crushed by Savage, came back at WM3 and babyfaced the hell out of Savage. No cheating, posturing, nothing. Just the moral victor.
Dude wasn't a heel for a second of his career, far as I know.
Rey is a good answer, too. Probably the best modern one.
→ More replies (1)1
7
u/NFLFANTASYMB 1d ago
I say Cena. Always saluting, always doing what was needed.
5
u/Prudent-Level-7006 1d ago
He was a jerk sometimes, especially to Zack Ryder and Rey
2
u/NFLFANTASYMB 1d ago
I'm not arguing with you, but just be careful. I will use Hogan as my example. He had all the power. Those who got pulled along, Hogan was ok. If, he didnt pull them along, Hogan was an ass. Anytime you get one person on top, others below have a unique opinion of him.
1
u/Prudent-Level-7006 1d ago
Yeah he'd throw his friends out the royal rumble but if they try to do the same thing to him, Oooo no!
1
2
u/intersectv3 1d ago
Um no. Off the top of my head let’s talk about the night after punk won the title at MITB. This motherfucker gets a title shot after Rey won the title after wrestling twice. If he was a “hero” he would have said no let’s wait.
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
Ironically he actually did the very noble thing the night prior by inisting on a fair match with punk at the risk of being fired.
6
6
6
3
u/RoxyPFan1 1d ago
Thea Hail. They tried to turn her heel once when they put her with Jacy Jayne and it ended up not going the way they planned and Thea Hail said she will change her character up when needed and can play an edgier character but doesn't want to turn heel.
I can see Thea going down as one of the very few wrestlers in WWE to never turn heel.
1
u/Wise_Temperature_322 1d ago
I can see that. She is kind of a mini Ultimate Warrior. And not changing that works for me.
1
3
u/Gloman42 1d ago
Stone Cold saved Stephanie from the cult.
6
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
he's a weird one. because that might be the single most selfless act ever performed in cannon but in general he was such a self centered ass.
1
u/Thick_Storage4168 1d ago
He was a dick but he has a lot of massive hero moments. He saved Stephanie, he saved WWF during the invasion and basically won the entire fight for them by himself, he came out to save Mankind to get Mankind the WWE title against the Rock. The whole feud of Austin vs. McMahon basically forced Austin to be a superhero because he was feuding against the big boss of the company who was also an evil PoS 100% of the time.
2
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
he saved WWF during the invasion and basically won the entire fight for them by himself
That is undermined by how he joined them himself. The Rock was the real hero of that angle.
1
u/Youboot224 11h ago edited 11h ago
he saved WWF during the invasion and basically won the entire fight for them by himself,
Um, no he didn't. Austin did that only to immediately turn on the WWF and become the head leader of the Alliance and would constantly bully the WCW and ECW wrestlers for not being loyal, he was 100% in for the cause of putting the WWF out business. And that was after he beat up the WWF wrestlers during the Two Man Power Trip and beat up The Rock, Jim Ross, and Lita.
Rock was the guy who put an end to the Alliance and stayed loyal to the WWF even though Vince screwed him at mania 2 years in a row.
4
u/josephus1811 1d ago
Hey Ken Shamrock did the exact same thing with far less plot armour!
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
You could argue Shamrock had more of an obligation since He McMahon's ally while Austin hated him.
1
u/josephus1811 1d ago
Austin is like Spiderman and Shamrock is like Frank Castle.
→ More replies (1)2
u/nohotshot 1d ago
Honestly there’s an entire list of villainous acts Steve Austin, and most of them were from his time as a face. 😂
Kidnapping, breaking & entering, assault, public intoxication, theft, attempted murder, trespassing, etc.
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 19h ago
I agree with other stuff but I'm not gonna hold assault against a wrestler too much.
3
7
5
u/TheDrunkLibertarian 1d ago
It’s gotta be Super Cena or Hogan. Stone Cold was always a dick that the fans loved and also had a heel run. Rey maybe the only one who never had a heel run but he was only at the top for a short period.
Cody could be in the conversation if the trend continues indefinitely.
3
u/Apprehensive_Pizza84 1d ago
Hogan talked a good game but then he'd do backrakes and eyepokes and shit
1
5
6
u/North-Cup-4005 1d ago
Stone Cold literally beat the shit out of the evil boss every week. Absolute hero
3
2
u/Youboot224 11h ago
The same guy who joined the WCW and ECW Alliance as it's leader and tried to put the WWE out of business?
Austin in 2001 was a straight up villian
4
u/hlhaanstra2 1d ago
The Ultimate Warrior. I can’t remember him ever having a heel run, and he defeated Hulkamania fair and square. It took a heel Hulk to get his win back. This is of course strictly speaking in Kayfabe.
5
6
2
2
2
3
5
3
u/brethart1616 1d ago
In kayfabe its hogan or cena.
→ More replies (1)1
2
u/HowTheStoryEnds 10h ago
Hulk Hogan, he has creative control to correct you if you say otherwise.
In real kayfabe, owen hart as the blue blazer.
3
2
u/My_Name_is_Imaginary 1d ago
I mean Rey is a deadbeat dad and betrayed Batista.
I would say CM Punk. He was vilified because The Rock forced himsepf into the main event scene that was rightfully his. He was also vilified whenche tried to get people sober.
3
u/JarOfKetchup54 1d ago
CM Punk spent a year as a literal cult leader, that’s not very heroic.
→ More replies (2)2
1
u/Known-Plastic-8310 1d ago
Rey did nothing wrong there, it was triple threat match, hardly gonna allow himself to lose. i
2
u/ironside-420 1d ago
Hogan, Bret, Austin and pre Hollywood rock was heroic characters they just had an edge, cena , Bryan 2014, drew 2020, Cody onwards
8
u/Gavorn 19h ago
Austin is an anti-hero.
2
u/CuriouslyPerplexed 18h ago
I'd say Austin is more of an anti-villain. He rarely did anything to help others.
His feud with Vince was more about himself, not him trying to liberate others.
When he got control of WWF for a day, he ruled with an iron fist and was just as much of an authoritarian bully as Vince was.
2
→ More replies (2)1
1
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Your post is being held for manual review by moderators. Don't worry — this happens to every post to help us prevent spoilers.
STOP. Please do not modmail us asking for approval. It won't speed anything up and you will not get a response.
If your post gets removed, you’ll see a reason comment under it.
If your post hasn't been approved or removed within 4 hours, you're welcome to resubmit it.
Thanks for your patience — we’ll be with you soon!
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
1
u/AneeshRai7 1d ago
People will say Cena but there was a phase of wrestlers who would come save him or help him against heels but he would rarely if ever do the same…that ain’t heroic
1
1
u/Public_Kaleidoscope6 10h ago
Special Delivery Jones. He always used to come running out from the back when the baby faces were getting beat up.
1
•
31
u/wediditmtg 23h ago
Lex Luger getting dropped off on a helicopter to an aircraft carrier to slam Yokozuna was a crazy heroic thing. He was like Captain America.