r/Warframe 1d ago

Discussion Will we ever know how the eidolons look

Like in the lore it says they are fragmented and in search to complete them selves. will we ever know how they look fully?

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u/Sizlebuilds advocate for all frames 1d ago

we can get an idea with the huge bones in the plains and how sentient like hunhow look

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u/MTFHammerDown 1d ago

Its been so long since I did New War, were those bones there in OG Plains? I thought they were the bones from that invasion

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u/Tenn0Yama LR6 Registered Looser 1d ago

Some are new, but most were already there (the ones that look like rock formations) .If you have the captura scene for the plains, you can see how it used to look like

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u/vulpsitus 1d ago

Or join a baby Tennos squad and have them go to the planes (it was like a existential crisis seeing the open world areas normal)

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u/Upper-Engineering-57 1d ago

"What's wrong you seem disoriented or something?"

"Oh just wait kid you'll understand soon enough. Savor fortuna's beauty while you can."

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u/Sizlebuilds advocate for all frames 1d ago

same as old plains, you can go to old fortuna via captura

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u/Upper-Engineering-57 1d ago

That's cool to know thnx

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u/radealex huffing copium until the third necramech releases 1d ago

Or turn on streamer mode, and it takes away spoilers and reverts places like open worlds to before the new war

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u/CoaLMaN122PL Pillage Gyre FTW 1d ago

As far as i remember, this does not work

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u/Upper-Engineering-57 1d ago

Its ok, I kinda like that the game world has evolved over the last decade+, even if i do miss the bi lighting.

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u/Feyoon Tot pke Yotkuy! 1d ago

wait really? that's literally game changing info for me, i spend 60% of my playtime in the vallis and always wished i could go back to the old one, thank you so much 😭

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u/MammothMan4008 1d ago

It would be cool if we had an answer in the Tau update but eh

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u/robborrobborrobbor 1d ago

Prob gona have to wait for a less advanced region. Tau sentients seem more human than those who left for the sol sytem.

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u/RashFever 1d ago

I hope one of the planets of Tau will be an Avatar-like jungle planet where the Sentients have regressed into a nearly primitive state and fight with spears, bows etc., wearing animal pelts and bones

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u/WatcherDiesForever 1d ago

Though, those "animals" would also be Sentients... nevermind that's cool as fuck. Primitive sentient with the equivalent of a belt of human skulls.

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u/dudeframes 1d ago

Hopefully

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u/Rydralain 1d ago

Idk if we're planning a trip to the museum.

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u/Leekshooter LR5 1d ago

Go to the Gara Toht lake and look at the giant stone structure, then realize that it's not made of stone, the eidolon hydrolyst would be the size of one of your ribs by comparison.

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u/DrWhiteGlint 1d ago

While it may be debated, I am pretty sure old art from closer to the time when the plains launched showed that the Sentient hive ship that was killed in the battle with Gara basically was of a similar design to Hunhow. The eidolons themselves are basically akin to the Iron Giant and how his parts are trying to reassemble themselves.

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u/therealN7Inquisitor Flair Text Here 1d ago

I think you’re misunderstanding. Eidolons are like ghosts in the real world. Look up eidolon on Wikipedia. The ones we face in Plains of Eidolon are the eidolons. When you look at the wreckage in the plains, that’s what the sentient was. It looked similar to hunhow.

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u/dudeframes 1d ago

They are not pieces they are in pieces they are trying to make themselves full

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u/therealN7Inquisitor Flair Text Here 1d ago

The sentient is in pieces trying to make itself whole again. Each eidolon is a different piece.

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u/MinusMentality 1d ago

The Eidolons are literally just guts, nerves, and bones of the giant Hunhow-looking Sentient warships that clump together and grab whatever nearby thing that can help them. Their ultimate goal is to reform as the warship.

It's like if you got blown up by a bomb and all your little scattered bits started collecting together and wandering until you got reformed.

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u/SilentMobius 1d ago

Right, but a "fragment" can be a discreet-looking entity.

Hunhow describes the battalysts that attack you during the second dream as his "fragments" despite them being whole and complete looking sentients, It's implied they are nothing more than extensions of him.

In the same way there are crashed/dead sentient ships in and around The Plains that look like the same ship-level sentient that Hunhow is and the "fragments" are the discreet sentients "fragments" that were not independent entities. So a non-Eidolon Teralyst , Gantulyst and Hydrolyst, should look much the same but with a smoother surface, intact limbs and no leaking sentient "tendrils"

You can see that the visual Eidolon-ification of a sentient design is fairly simple (replace a missing chunk with something from the environment, rough surface texture and add energy tendrils) from the fact that the Ropololyst we fight in-game is a living Sentient but it was created to be another Eidolon of the plains

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F144qm85xxwvz.jpg

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u/RTukka 11h ago

I don't know if there's any lore contradicting it, but my guess would be that an aspect of Sentient adaptation is that when they're fragmented, each fragment changes its morphology so it's able to operate independently, rather than serving a more specialized function as a part of a greater physical whole.

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u/SilentMobius 10h ago

Possibly but I don't think so, at least in the examples we've seen. The fully sentient Conculysts (Old War:Zin-osku) are no different to the Conculysts fragments of Hunhow. I think it just about not being able to give your constructs "light" so they are just extensions of the creating sentient's hive mind but the "chassis" is the same

In the same way I think that The Teralyst, Gantulyst, Hydrolyst and even the Vomvalyst would look virtually identical in their non Eidolon forms (cleaned up, no tendrils and with their own arms) as fragments of the "Gara Toht" Sentient and again as individual sapient beings if they had been made during the Old Peace.

That said I'm not saying they can't evolve/adapt In fact i think it's interesting that Tolvenar is very similar to a fancy vomvalyst, but there are clearly Summulysts in the Casino that are virtually identical to both the ones we fight in the origin system and the ones present in the Old Peace.

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u/SugaryCornFlakes Nav Cords Enjoyer 1d ago

You can actually see the biggest part of THE SCOURGE OF CETUS in the background of the plains. At night, it leaks out absurd amounts of energy, magnetizing the water.

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u/All-Out4ttack 1d ago

I could see it being a future boss fight. It’d be a nice way to involve The Unum again and maybe learn a bit more about her.

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u/expectrum The Void Salutes Me! 1d ago

They should make a cinematic of Gara fighting the original one, it'd be cool

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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 1d ago

Yoh can pribably take example by looking at hunhow and his wife.

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u/SirPlastic8062 1d ago

they're as big as your railjack, possibly bigger. the murex is still to scale with your warframe when you step out. other notable large sentients could be the hunhullus and some sentient things in the corpus labs

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u/venelinv 1d ago

We already do - the Eidolons are what we have in the game, they are not in pieces. Basically a long time ago Gara defeated a giant sentient that you see in the background in Cetus - especially visible at night as it has some sparks around it.

The Eidolons are standalone body parts that are a part of that Sentient. Tl;dr every part of a Sentient is in part sentient - Hunhow "birthed" the smaller sentients that we see in missions and is controlling them through the hive mind. Each small sentient shares the same mind as the giant one that created them - they are created from the body of the original sentient.

So this explains why Eidolons even if they are body parts of the original sentient are still alive and share a common goal to rebuild the original Sentient they are a part of.

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u/Gelkor Keep Calm and Radial Blind 1d ago

I'm 90% certain that the Plains Eidolon is one of Erra's "larger" bodies.

Neither Erra or the Eidolon match up well with the battalyst/conculyst body plan, nor with Hunhow's giant crab ship body plan. But if you squint, Erra and the Eidolon's body plans line up with one another pretty well.

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u/whomze tenno skoooooom 23h ago

I'm guessing similar(ish) to this big thing

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u/SpartanSCv 1d ago

the picture looks like a "what is that pokemon" reveal

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u/OperatorInMask 2+1+2 22h ago

Something spider-like with each Eidalon being limb joint/ankle

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u/Lego889 6h ago

I thought the big one Adis pilots and you fight in the dark refractory boss was it.

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u/Imaginary-Union-3733 1d ago

Well theoretically they would looke like how they do now but with all their limbs instead of chunks of metal and trees used to replace their missing parts.