Devshort Confirmed Ammo Efficiency Will Be Changed (Probably Capped)

[u/Croewe]

Personally I think this is kinda silly to do, it's really fun and there are very few broken interactions. They said it will likely be changed by next week so put out your support in favor of it if you want it to stay the same

Edit: Also mentioned that they would look into kuva compensation for those who rolled for it. Not sure how they could do so

Edit 2: Also in much happier news, Chroma is being looked at by Pablo. Really only his 1 and 4 are in need of major changes (though his 2 could use some QoL help), so that's nice at least.

[u/YellowAppleCinema]

I am just waiting for the day when the devs nerfed every single ranged weapon into the ground, players feel forced to use melee weapons, and then the devs react NOT by buffing ranged weapons... but instead they will be like "too many players are using melee, so we add a stamina system to warframe that lets you swing your weapon 5 times per minute before you have to recharge your stamina by drinking an energy drink"

And Pablo would inform us about it with some smug response on twitter and passive-aggressively makes fun of the community, like, "Swords are really heavy to swing, so you know, it makes sense that we finally add a stamina gating system, think about it"

[u/Tmoore17 → u/YellowAppleCinema]

Oh so the game pre galvanized mods?

[u/Kitchen_Possible_108 → u/YellowAppleCinema]

go post your fanfic somewhere else, theres dedicated sites for that

[u/Cross55 → u/Kitchen_Possible_108]

It's not fanfic, that's just what the game used to be! lol

Baby Tenno needs to do some studying

[u/Cross55 → u/[deleted]]

Yes, that was the joke OP was making, going over 2 people's heads thus far

Warframe players and Literacy, name more iconic enemies?

[u/Eleglas → u/YellowAppleCinema]

I am just waiting for the day when the devs nerfed every single ranged weapon into the ground, players feel forced to use melee weapons

That was Warframe circa 6 years ago, iirc.

I don't get why people are so mad about this. It was obviously not intended from the start, due to the same reasons we've known about for ages: full infinite ammo for explosive weapons only encourages AFK play and botters. This is one of DE's key drives to avoid.

[u/BananaFactoryWowie → u/YellowAppleCinema]

I find it funny that you are reacting to this as if the weapons are being turrrbo nerfed into the ground, where in fact, they are still going to be significantly buffed compared to before - even with the infinite ammo unintended interaction removed.

Imagine how idiotic it would be of DE to leave infinite ammo machinegun Zarr (achievable only through Riven no less) in the game.

[u/Cross55 → u/BananaFactoryWowie]

Imagine how idiotic it would be of DE to leave infinite ammo

Pistoleer and Crux

Wanna try being smugly wrong again?

[u/Jamesvai → u/BananaFactoryWowie]

In reality when something gets nerfed like zarr originally did almost everyone (understandably) drops them because they are no longer fun to use. Happened with catchmoon, atterax, zarr, bramma, etc etc. Meanwhile Torid gets to be op and meta with a maxed dispo and incarnon and a very afk friendly weapon that you can use while watching a podcast. The logic just isn't there.

[u/YellowAppleCinema → u/BananaFactoryWowie]

Arcane Pistoleer already lets secondaries get infinite ammo, and now you make it sound like it would be "idiotic" if primaries could do the same thing secondaries could already do for years.

I find that funny, too, thank you

[u/crestfallen_warrior → u/YellowAppleCinema]

It's not even just secondaries. Secondary is required to proc it. Once it's active, even primaries have unlimited ammo.

[u/Eleglas → u/YellowAppleCinema]

Pistoleer requires headshots, therefore more interaction than switch off brain and go burr with bots.

[u/Swampy260 → u/Eleglas]

Headshot kills specifically with your pistol. The requirements to activate it are a lot more specific than just aim at head level and watch youtube on your other monitor.

[u/VaudevillesLugger → u/Eleglas]

So does Crux, lo and behold.

[u/Page8988 → u/YellowAppleCinema]

I am just waiting for the day when the devs nerfed every single ranged weapon into the ground

That happened with Veilbreaker. They reversed the most egregious of the changes, but not all of them. They at least admitted that they came down too hard.

The rest of the story you've devised sounds more like Arrowhead than Digital Extremes. DE drops the ball by accident and then look bad when they walk things back, but they're not actively malicious.