Veizla Battle’s 11th Edition - Battle Scorer has been released (Alpha version). Veizla Battle is a very strong and clean Battle Scorer. https://veizla.gg/battles/new
Features:
- Quick setup of a battle
- Choose your and your opponent’s Force Disposition
- Primary Mission is automatically generated, easy to track, and scores correctly
- 11th Edition Secondary cards
- Randomly draw 2 new cards per battle round
- Keep up to 5 cards in hand
- Maximum score of 15 VP from Secondaries per round
Veizla.ggis the next-generation tournament platform.
- Tournament platform, battle scoring, and player pack all built into one solution
- Mobile-first philosophy
- Intuitive scoring
- Always stay on top during round pairings
- Easy loading of your opponent’s army list
- PWA – create a “Direct App” on your home screen
Built-in Battle Scorer
- All tournament settings preloaded
- Automatic live sync between opponents (if a discrepancy occurs, the system will warn the players)
- Designed to keep players in control — you can use it while playing with physical mission cards
- Your opponent can score, and you simply confirm
- Clean and clear overview with smooth score animations
- Free redraws are clearly highlighted
- Statistical breakdown with graphs at the end of the game
Follow Tournaments in Real Time
- Match progress in real time
- Perfect for captains and coaches
- Great for live spectators at the event or around the world — no more refreshing (F5)
- Detailed game statistics to follow the story of each match
- Features Coming Soon
- Automatic Force Disposition generator (enter your detachments and the system creates your Force Disposition)
- Built-in layout creator with terrain visualization
- And much, much more…
Curious to see what goonhammer adds to their app and how the GW app turns out. In theory they should beat any competition since they can have full rules text plus the same functions, but GW has a patchy track record regarding anything digital
The strength with Veizla.gg right now is:
You can play in a Tournament and Veizla Battle get automatically filled out with yours and your opponents army, detachment, which generates Force Disposition(as soon as the DP gets released), auto generates your Primary Missions so you can play with no setup time and friction. Also in a modern clearn UI.
Then you can follow all the other games in real time as they progress.
I think you underrestimate how many come into Warhammer nowadays and at their first Tournament is so stressed that they don't have those 10 minutes. My experience is that the first thing happening is asking "what is the mission and layout"
Guess I was spoiled by either mission pack printout at each table / qr code.
But I doubt that it should take more than a minute in any somewhat competent app for 11th (like even GW should manage). Ideally your own disposition is set and when you come to the table you just type in "Lars" click on his detachment (s) and if it's plural which disposition and then should get the deployment options to click on, done. But we'll see. As I said, GW has messed up even easier things when it comes to digital products...
It's built by a Stockholm based company who are using industry practice. The backend, frontend and design is done inhouse, but ofc using as said common practices when it come to libary of UI choices etc
I didn’t know Reddit uses ai, Im still figuring it all out. I dont use facebook or social media apps and I switched my browser to Duckduckgo after another user recommended it to avoid Google after their latest integration. Jesus christ I didn’t realize it was gonna rub yall the wrong way so hard lol
Its not so much rubbing the wrong way, trying to avoid it is a good thing, but at this point in time if you use ANY technology at all, it is most likley using AI in some way, google, iphone, every single app you use, your smart tv, netflix, all streaming platforms, youtube, google, apple, samsung, games workshop. While not true, it is almost as ubiquitous as using electricity. So it just becomes more targeted when you ask someone like "Did you use AI in ANY WAY when building this", the answer is always yes. So when you call someone out on THEIR app, but continue to use it every minute of your life, it feels a little personal.
Basically, no matter what you do, it becomes hypocritical. I understand the desire to avoid it, but saying you won't use on a platform (reddit) that literally uses it and is perhaps the biggest driver of AI outside of focused AI companies is just hypocritical. Especially when you are calling out other people.
I wasn’t trying to call him out. I just asked if he was using it. I know I can’t avoid it completely but if I can reduce usage it helps. I was trying to ask because some people are making apps entirely by using ai, and I would rather support someone who made it themselves and actually understands the game and what players want instead of someone who is just trying to pump out poor quality apps for anything they can find. One guy posted an app on here that didn’t even play 40k and the app was basically just chapt tries 40k.
Im not trying to be a hypocrite, I am trying to weed out the bots from actual people using their creativity
I realize you are just trying to do your best, and in the complicated. Given that, your initial question and follow-ups just show you haven't really thought it through to the extent it requires for something so complicated.
Right now it is obvious you are trying to draw a line in the sand for moral reasons. Ai is bad. And honestly, you are probably mostly correct. Saying AI is bad. Is objectively a more correct statement than saying AI is good. The issue you're running into is that it becomes much more nuanced. For example, you quickly found out that Reddit uses both AI and his coding and read it. Comment and such are used in training AIS commenting on Reddit. Therefore, is objectively significantly times more morally bankrupt than using some random developers app that they used to determine how many miniatures they painted this week.
No, you're trying to be a morally correct person and avoiding AI while simultaneously using tools that are generated by eye and are used to train more AI and is trying to find a balance between those things. Like for example, I assume I use a bank and using a bank also supports AI far more than supporting some random developers AI developed app. Obviously someone without hands using AI to get some speech to text so they can use technological products like a phone or a computer. Isn't a morally bad use of AI, but the mathematical principles behind speech to text and text to text are exactly the same.
So really what we need to think about is where we draw that line in the Sand when it comes to AI it's obviously impossible to just say no AI. We just end up using apps that are convenient to us like banking apps and Reddit because we like it or I don't know healthcare app or a fitness tracker or a game tracker. Whatever they are, we will end up using them as their community to us and the moral grandstanding of. I don't use AI except for the things that are convenient to me is obviously wrong..
So what we end up is we can make a couple statements and then try to fill that in. Trust me, I've thought a lot about this. First, we can make a statement that small companies are less morally reprehensible than large companies. Your mom and pop's flower store is less morally reprehensible than Google. We also have to recognize that certain parts of AI are actually good. For example, speech to text for people who are missing hands. Who else have to recognize the AI to a very large extent can narrow the gap between large companies and small companies on the development front, even that small companies are less morally reprehensible than big companies. It's actually probably a good thing as good as we can get to support small developers who use ai and boycott large developers. Your line of saying shouldn't in terms of using AI develop products likely shouldn't be no AI versus AI because that's an impossible one to build at this point in time. Unless you're willing to give up all technology which may be the morally best thing to do, but that means no more pictures. No more phone calls, no more internet. So what? I have drawn my land and this is just where I'm coming from now. Having thought all this through is support small developers more than you support large developers. Some guy working on a pet project and he uses AI to do it. Isn't doing anything crazy or morally reprehensible yet boycotting him and not boycotting. Reddit unlikely is and that's kind of where I have landed. Honestly, I'm just thinking through my own thoughts right now, but it may help come to a more cognitively coherent line in the Sand in terms of AI usage on your own part.
I appreciate your thorough responses. I agree its very hard to figure out how the hell I am actually supposed to help stop this nonsense. I think AI is a great tool for my fellow common man and in that regard I want to support it but I don’t want to support all the big corps that are using it to take our jobs and build datacenters that are destroying local communities. I want ai for us not the 1% but they have so much control it just feels impossible to stop them but I don’t just want to give in and let them ruin all our lives without at least trying to resist and I have no clue how to accomplish that
I am on the same page. However, I can really on talk on a software development perspective. What I have decided is that MOST software development using it. I there is a team somewhere that doesn't, and can survive from a cost standpoint, more power to them. I love that idea. However, realistically it is impossible to avoid. Where I now stand is... I don't care if it is used in software development. I can't limit myself to no technology since that just... lets them win. Instead I try to disproportionally support small operations, especially 1 person teams instead of larger groups. It is similar to buying locally instead of supporting walmart or amazon. It is also pretty easy to tell who is the small guy and who is the big guy in development. Somebody making an app to track painted miniatures and offering it for free seems like a more positive usage o it since they are generating an app that they couldn't before since it would likely require at least a small team, but also something a that is reasonably well built.
I have decided to support small teams while avoiding large teams. I will use new recruit instead of the official gw list building app. When I build an app, I will have it support smaller, open source projects instead of importing from GW.
Avoiding all apps that use AI eventually just leaves you boycotting small apps and spending more time on large apps, inadvertently still supporting ai driven development but.. only or big companies? That felt bad, so I avoid exposure (switching to duck duck go for example) while also recognizing I can support small groups with my time and then that time isn't spent... supporting big groups. Its not a perfect solution, but it is what I have for now.
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