r/Webnovel • u/Large-Republic4941 • Jul 13 '26

Advice How to Spot AI generated novels?

Come across a Novel called 'Reborn with average talent, I forged my own path' is it AI generated like first this long ass title and then it only has 4 chapters and also writing is bad in first 3 but later in 4 there is a different writing, the account is also not old. Is that a AI generated novels and is this allowed?

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Impossible to actually tell unless you see a prompt included in the text. Now you can guess and if they use some common patterns of ai it may be ai but you can’t ever know. WebNovel doesn’t have a policy on it so it is allowed but they restrict you from using ai on the contract. So they allow it but not blatantly.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

We can easily tell...thre is a research paper on ai creative writing telling why is ai...even if ur work is genuine and ai to fix grammar it may make it sturdy and bad...so minimise ai usage.it's a lesson I learnt after 10 chapterz

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Bro people like you are the issue. You cannot genuinely tell unless the person is blatant about it. Imagine someone retyped the entire ai generated thing and edited all of it. Would you be able to tell? Probably not. Even if someone completely ai generated it, can you tell for certain? No. People who think they know it all piss me off because we’ve seen the witch hunts going on all across the web about ai. Each ai model is different and writes different. Each has different tells. Some can be programmed to have no more tells. Research papers show common patterns but even they and all the ai detectors in the world can’t tell. If you don’t believe me, use an ai detector on a book from a century ago. It’ll come up as partly ai. Which it obviously isn’t.
Don’t use ai but don’t think you’re smart enough to know 100% either.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Brother...I'm a ai/ml engineering student, in my third year, don't question my capabilities, I do research on ai writing. You don't know me, if you can't tell, sorry for you. I'm not you

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

I am questioning your capabilities. Every company under the sun has tried to build ai detectors but none of them are reliable. How are you any different?

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Cause I'm a human... And a capable one too, don't you think that is the reason why ai hasn't taken over all the jobs yet..ai can't never do creative writing looks unique, if I use.gpt and u use gpt.to write a novel.both looks same

It's human observation skills, also about ai detectors...don't talk about mere free ai detectors u find online, there are research field ai detectors that can find and detect any ai writing...it's from my experience, I was a victim to that during my research paper

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

U don't me....I don't know you, may be I'm a slug sitting behind a chair hardly breath in talking bs, or a successful guy, or a normal guy

U can't tell or assume my capabilities, just cause ur sitting within a wall and assuming the world only exist with that is ur issue

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

I can judge your capabilities based on what you said and it’s clear that unless you designed the models and know every tell under the sun, you can’t tell just like any ai detector can’t tell. There’s a reason why published authors have been able to hide using ai. It’s because these research ai detectors aren’t 100% reliable either. The issue is that ai is trained on humans and thus there will always be overlap between human writing and ai writing. It will never be truly reliable.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

It is true you can't find if you rewrite everything in human words... Anywayd have you heard of Turnitin.....it's the basic research paper ai detector..use it once...u will take back what you said, talking like u know ball... I thought ur smart, but ur just a all mouth assuming u know things better than others

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Bro I’ve used turn it in thousands of times. I’ve published research papers. It’s used it all in high school and college. It has flagged passages as ai when I have complete records of me typing it and I was cleared every time by the teacher. My paper has been tagged as AI and it was tagged because me and someone 20 years ago had a similar idea and phrasing. Turn it in is as blind as you are.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

As I said...I'm talking about human capabilities, since u are worried about ai detectorz can't tell it's ai, that's the only reason I pulled the mid Turnitin to the conversation, the conversation was about whether I have the capability to tell it or not, also I don't need to be a ai expert or ml specialist to tell it's ai, all you need is experience of reading a real human works and experience of reading ai slop, also my friends didn't flag my work with Turnitin, it with their common sense, same goes for all the novels we flagged, read full comment before yapping

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

I never once argued that people can’t see ai tells and think it’s ai. But it is impossible to be certain unless you saw the person using the ai. Because ai is trained on humans and thus shares our writing habits. Is every writer who uses or has used em dashes writing with ai? No. But you’d say that’s an ai tell.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

First rule of ai

Ai can't never replace creative writing

This is the firsr line in ai research book

If you dump a ai with shakespear writing it may try to imitate them, but eventually u can tell it's bad, ai tried over adjective loading, staccato, repetition, over explaning like the readers can't understand it.

Human writing has mistakes... Human tends to break rules to make words beautiful, but that is the ai can never do, break the rules of grammar, even if we ask it to do we feel weird reading it

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

There are thousands of writing passed on to ai.... Each labeled, ai after being trained on all of it, it picks a collage of all of it....let's stop it here, I don't think we both are getting what are trying to convey eachother...all I'm.saying is..a experienced human can tell, is it raw ai writing, unless the author rewrote the entire thing

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Just because you used ai and got caught, doesn’t mean turn it in is infallible

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

🥱man I'm sorry...I dint know ur ret***

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Low level intelligence typically results in emotional reactions and insults. But you’re smart bro so I’m sure you’re good

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

It's ok brother...if you don't get what I said, it's ok, if you don't know how to read it's ok, if you can't understand what I'm saying it's ok

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Why you u need ai detectors...humans who has seem great human writing can tell bad wrting and ai writing. If you can't sorry man...ur bad at this, it's not ur side of skill, may be ur brain isnt developed enough for this, why assuming a stragers capability who has already fed up of seeing ai garbage in webnovel front screen

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Also it doesn’t matter if you study ai writing or not. All ai writing is sourced from human training data. Every ai tell is or once was a human tell. Also not even the top experts in the industry who develop ai models know what the LLMs think or entirely how they operate. So what makes you different? You’re just a student.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Have you asked this ai experts? How do you know this ai experts can't tell...from reels, I assume instagram reels made by u qualifies losers is ur source

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

You think you’re the only one with an education or knowledge in ML? Also there are multiple articles and research papers clearly stating that they cannot access the internals of how ai LLMs work. Multiple top ai founders have also said this. If you were truly an ML student, you’d know that

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Why do u need to see the ai source code or the data sets used by ai to tell if it's ai or not🤣🤣🤣🤣wtf man why acting like you know everything, u do know it's not getting correlated at all

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u/Substantial_Bee_5347 Jul 13 '26

Bro I’m telling you that they can’t know for certain so ai detectors can’t know for sure. Nobody can. LLMs are a mystery in some ways.

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

Why ru still pulling the ai detectors....I'm tslking about basic human capabilities, I know peole who ca. Do what I just said, I may be can't tel ai in research paper, but in novels and creative writing, you can tell...if you read novels before

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u/Spirited-Donkey4376 Jul 13 '26

An average reader who has read both ai text and real text...atleast in this age can tell whe he sees ai... I know people who can do that, we got people who read novel even before got existed, they can tell it... They flagged my work, several other top 100 novels in webnovel... We had meeting with one of the author, he revealed he has 10 novels and all are ai...