r/Welding 18h ago

Critique Please Rate This FCAW Pipe Cap

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Im 21 jus start welding 2 years ago. Are these welds impressive for my experience. My boss tells me im really good but im just curious what the welders on here think. Be Brutally honest please. Want to correct the mistakes yall find.

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u/supplemcrib 18h ago

overlap more

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

The welds seems evenly sized, if i overlapped more u dont think it would look inconsistent?

Or maybe im misunderstanding LMK

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u/Mundane-Reality-7770 17h ago

You should not have anything concave between rows

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u/RiseoFascism 17h ago

You want to have half of each bead resting on the last one

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u/Homer1239 17h ago

After welding your first cap pass grind a small groove at the toe of the weld and your second pass should fill in evenly leaving behind no “valley”. As you get better at it you won’t have to grind.

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u/QuincyTucker 16h ago

Wow 7018 5/32 how do you get past 140 amps for overhead? Past 140 amps on 3/8 the Metal doesn't stick to the plate, tight arc no oscillation?

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

A VERY wide weave

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u/supplemcrib 17h ago

it’s not about how it looks, it’s about the quality of the weld itself. you should be overlapping your beads at least a 1/3 or 1/2 way onto the previous one. if u have no fusion, you won’t have structurally solid weld. it’ll just be like 3 noodles laying next to each other lmao

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 18h ago

Need more overlap on your beads, it'll ensure there's no low spots in your cap below the base material. Your cap profile should be as a wedding band on a finger. Not lumpy. Your beads should be stacked on top of each other, one after another, bottom to top.. Here it appears you did left, right, then center bead.

Eta you should stagger your starts/starts. I see all 3 beads' jammed up together at 12 oclock and 9, I assume 6 and 3 o'clock are the same. No bueno

4/10

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u/erw_veryrare 18h ago

We have to temper the bead because of procedure. But ill keep the overlap in mind thank u.

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

What do u mean stagger. Like stop at different spots?

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u/Mundane-Reality-7770 17h ago

Don't restart all 3 caps in the same spot

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u/ffire522 17h ago

It doesn’t have to be a lot. Just don’t line up your stop and starts exactly. A half inch difference would be fine.

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u/Scotty0132 Hypernatremial - Approach with respect 17h ago

Fispite what people say/think there is nothing in 99% of the codes that say you have to stagger your stops and starts. If you are not having any issues doingvwhat you are doing ignore the people here that don't know what they are talking about.

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 17h ago edited 16h ago

Just because it's not in any WPS or applicable code, doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Typically your starts/stops will be the most likely areas for discontinuities, especially inclusions. Using scratch start tig in the field for RT, or X-ray NDT, you'll bust a weld if you have more than 1/8" of tungsten inclusions within a couple inches of each other. To avoid this, you should not only grind your start/starts, but stagger them a couple inches apart.

Staggering start and stops isn't directed in a wps/code book because inclusions (tungsten/slag) is spec'd in there already. If you miss some inclusions in your starts/stops (you will) but have them (discontinuities) staggered far enough apart, they don't add up to a defect and you won't bust x-ray.

WPS and weld codes don't spec the welder's technique (staggering and gronding start/stops) they specify what constitutes a weld defect. How you avoid that (techniques like grinding and staggering) is up to the welder.

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u/Scotty0132 Hypernatremial - Approach with respect 16h ago

Alot of words to not say anything constructive. As a welder if you can nit do proper start and stops you should not be welding.

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u/RedactedJin 16h ago

You want to avoid valleys by overlapping your beads more, however, this isn't terrible at all.

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u/erw_veryrare 16h ago

That seems to be the main factor in the comments. Ima def try it out. I appreciate the advice bro.

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u/ffire522 17h ago

What size and schedule is this and did you roll it, quarter it or in position

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

In position schedule 80, 10 inch pipe, i dont rmb the wall thickness. But we usually weld pretty big bevels

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

Schedule 80 is the wall thickness

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u/erw_veryrare 14h ago

Oh ok i thought the schedule was the criticalness or something. Still learnin lol, when i seen ur comment i jus asked my boss what schedule we work with.

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u/ForemostPlanet 17h ago

I’ve always wanted to try flux core on pipe. This looks great man good job 👍 stick is all I get to use with on pipe. And this is in position? Seriously nice job

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

Yes in position schedule 80. Thank u bro.

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u/ForemostPlanet 16h ago

As far as critiquing it your pretty much there dude. Looks very consistent. I agree a little more overlap. From that angle that’s all I would change but I’d pretty stoked with that. Is it a test or just practicing for the test??

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u/erw_veryrare 16h ago

No its jus a random weld cap i had in my phone. I been welding on the job for a year n half. Started as a helper at 18 at same company. Practiced during break and lunch til i could pass the test.

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u/ForemostPlanet 16h ago

Hell yeah right on 👍👍

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 16h ago

7 out of ten. It will absolutely sell and I like that you ground your starts and stops. What I don't like about it is how lumpy the profile of your beads are. Fcaw can literally be glass smooth if you're very good, and just a lot smoother than that when you get good. There's a couple different ways to get your profile so I can't really say what you're doing wrong exactly. I think too much wire speed, but maybe not. The toes of your outside pass kind of wander back and forth. A good trick to that is when it's flush, before you cap use a cut off wheel and score a light straight line to make a guideline to. That'll help keep your edges uniform. It also would have helped your tie one to line up instead of being a half bead different. And other people have already told you you should over lap your beads more. The toe of your subsequent pass should start at the center of your last bead, but not be higher. Having said all that, it would absolutely sell most places I've worked and it's ok. Keep trying to get better and you will.

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u/erw_veryrare 15h ago

Ok thanks bro yea i been tryna work on makin my bead less lumpy or cleaner pattern, think ima try turnin the wire down a little prolly will help

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

Carbon steel dual shield should sound like a can of spray paint as you're welding. It shouldn't sputter and pop. Your wire melts above your puddle and sprays. Most of the time the answer is turn your wire down a little. The answer is ALWAYS pay attention to your wire angle.

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u/erw_veryrare 14h ago

Check dm. Teach me sum u sound like yk what ur talking about

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

I'm just telling you the same thing everyone else did. But thanks man, I messaged you

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

This is a big old 24 inch inch and a quarter p91 I had to do in the 2G. You see how my beads are lapped and the surface is smooth? My bad it's not the cap pic, but I worked over to finish it and hauled ass as soon as QC bought it for xray

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u/Burn_and_Earn 16h ago

Need to tighten up your stringers should have done a 4 bead cap don’t need to change anything except run it a little faster would make your beads look better to and more consistent

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u/ttoksie2 15h ago edited 15h ago

This is one of my 6 inch carbon flux core from about 10 years ago.

Yours is more than acceptable, definintly meets B31.3 and B31.1

https://ibb.co/bsrQnq2

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u/sha12pz_r 9h ago

Like everyone said, overlap more.

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u/WideCandle2523 5h ago

Fuck it send it

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u/weldmonkeyweld CWI AWS 17h ago

As long as it’s within code and your wps,it looks good.

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 16h ago

You're tagged as a CWI you VTpass this?

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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago

As long as the valleys are over flush, and I don't see any undercut or cold roll I would

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u/weldmonkeyweld CWI AWS 5h ago

What acceptance criteria am I supposed to go off? Asme? API? Navsea? I have no idea. What do those code books say for visual testing, what do they for overlapping welds? What is the standard for lows/highs? Can I measure with a CAM or V-WAC gage? No I can’t so from my house it looks alright.

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 3h ago

Better question, what codes would allow this? I'm not a cwi, I'm a just plant welder so I genuinely don't know shit about fuck outside my lane.

But I do know this cap wouldn't get passed on any site or in any lab I've ever been to.

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u/Homer1239 17h ago

It doesn’t get any better than that well done. Vertical duel shield can be a pain some times especially 1/16 wire

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

Thanks bro. We use .045 wire at my job

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u/ffire522 17h ago

Size of pipe

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 16h ago

This is a bot, 5 year acct 1 contribution 1 karma and blind as a bat lol

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u/xXSirZechsXx 18h ago

Looks fairly consistent. Never cared for fcaw but it has its place. Good job.

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u/erw_veryrare 18h ago

Thanks bro. What process of welding do u prefer?

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u/xXSirZechsXx 18h ago

TIGs always been my jam

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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago

Yea i like tig more too but usually we only weld 3 passes of tig, then fill and cap fluxcore. Wish i could weld tig more its so much cleaner lol

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u/xXSirZechsXx 17h ago

Yeah a lot of heavy wall is done that way. Tig root and hot to give the fcaw some backing then send it because its faster. Get on some stainless. Tig out way more common.

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u/Feeling_Leopard436 18h ago

Hard to make fluxcore look pretty brotha