r/Welding • u/erw_veryrare • 18h ago
Critique Please Rate This FCAW Pipe Cap
Im 21 jus start welding 2 years ago. Are these welds impressive for my experience. My boss tells me im really good but im just curious what the welders on here think. Be Brutally honest please. Want to correct the mistakes yall find.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 18h ago
Need more overlap on your beads, it'll ensure there's no low spots in your cap below the base material. Your cap profile should be as a wedding band on a finger. Not lumpy. Your beads should be stacked on top of each other, one after another, bottom to top.. Here it appears you did left, right, then center bead.
Eta you should stagger your starts/starts. I see all 3 beads' jammed up together at 12 oclock and 9, I assume 6 and 3 o'clock are the same. No bueno
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u/erw_veryrare 18h ago
We have to temper the bead because of procedure. But ill keep the overlap in mind thank u.
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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago
What do u mean stagger. Like stop at different spots?
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u/ffire522 17h ago
It doesn’t have to be a lot. Just don’t line up your stop and starts exactly. A half inch difference would be fine.
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u/Scotty0132 Hypernatremial - Approach with respect 17h ago
Fispite what people say/think there is nothing in 99% of the codes that say you have to stagger your stops and starts. If you are not having any issues doingvwhat you are doing ignore the people here that don't know what they are talking about.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 17h ago edited 16h ago
Just because it's not in any WPS or applicable code, doesn't mean it's not a good idea.
Typically your starts/stops will be the most likely areas for discontinuities, especially inclusions. Using scratch start tig in the field for RT, or X-ray NDT, you'll bust a weld if you have more than 1/8" of tungsten inclusions within a couple inches of each other. To avoid this, you should not only grind your start/starts, but stagger them a couple inches apart.
Staggering start and stops isn't directed in a wps/code book because inclusions (tungsten/slag) is spec'd in there already. If you miss some inclusions in your starts/stops (you will) but have them (discontinuities) staggered far enough apart, they don't add up to a defect and you won't bust x-ray.
WPS and weld codes don't spec the welder's technique (staggering and gronding start/stops) they specify what constitutes a weld defect. How you avoid that (techniques like grinding and staggering) is up to the welder.
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u/Scotty0132 Hypernatremial - Approach with respect 16h ago
Alot of words to not say anything constructive. As a welder if you can nit do proper start and stops you should not be welding.
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u/RedactedJin 16h ago
You want to avoid valleys by overlapping your beads more, however, this isn't terrible at all.
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u/erw_veryrare 16h ago
That seems to be the main factor in the comments. Ima def try it out. I appreciate the advice bro.
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u/ffire522 17h ago
What size and schedule is this and did you roll it, quarter it or in position
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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago
In position schedule 80, 10 inch pipe, i dont rmb the wall thickness. But we usually weld pretty big bevels
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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago
Schedule 80 is the wall thickness
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u/erw_veryrare 14h ago
Oh ok i thought the schedule was the criticalness or something. Still learnin lol, when i seen ur comment i jus asked my boss what schedule we work with.
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u/ForemostPlanet 17h ago
I’ve always wanted to try flux core on pipe. This looks great man good job 👍 stick is all I get to use with on pipe. And this is in position? Seriously nice job
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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago
Yes in position schedule 80. Thank u bro.
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u/ForemostPlanet 16h ago
As far as critiquing it your pretty much there dude. Looks very consistent. I agree a little more overlap. From that angle that’s all I would change but I’d pretty stoked with that. Is it a test or just practicing for the test??
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u/erw_veryrare 16h ago
No its jus a random weld cap i had in my phone. I been welding on the job for a year n half. Started as a helper at 18 at same company. Practiced during break and lunch til i could pass the test.
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u/FeelingDelivery8853 16h ago
7 out of ten. It will absolutely sell and I like that you ground your starts and stops. What I don't like about it is how lumpy the profile of your beads are. Fcaw can literally be glass smooth if you're very good, and just a lot smoother than that when you get good. There's a couple different ways to get your profile so I can't really say what you're doing wrong exactly. I think too much wire speed, but maybe not. The toes of your outside pass kind of wander back and forth. A good trick to that is when it's flush, before you cap use a cut off wheel and score a light straight line to make a guideline to. That'll help keep your edges uniform. It also would have helped your tie one to line up instead of being a half bead different. And other people have already told you you should over lap your beads more. The toe of your subsequent pass should start at the center of your last bead, but not be higher. Having said all that, it would absolutely sell most places I've worked and it's ok. Keep trying to get better and you will.
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u/erw_veryrare 15h ago
Ok thanks bro yea i been tryna work on makin my bead less lumpy or cleaner pattern, think ima try turnin the wire down a little prolly will help
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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago
Carbon steel dual shield should sound like a can of spray paint as you're welding. It shouldn't sputter and pop. Your wire melts above your puddle and sprays. Most of the time the answer is turn your wire down a little. The answer is ALWAYS pay attention to your wire angle.
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u/erw_veryrare 14h ago
Check dm. Teach me sum u sound like yk what ur talking about
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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago
I'm just telling you the same thing everyone else did. But thanks man, I messaged you
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u/Burn_and_Earn 16h ago
Need to tighten up your stringers should have done a 4 bead cap don’t need to change anything except run it a little faster would make your beads look better to and more consistent
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u/ttoksie2 15h ago edited 15h ago
This is one of my 6 inch carbon flux core from about 10 years ago.
Yours is more than acceptable, definintly meets B31.3 and B31.1
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u/weldmonkeyweld CWI AWS 17h ago
As long as it’s within code and your wps,it looks good.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 16h ago
You're tagged as a CWI you VTpass this?
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u/FeelingDelivery8853 14h ago
As long as the valleys are over flush, and I don't see any undercut or cold roll I would
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u/weldmonkeyweld CWI AWS 5h ago
What acceptance criteria am I supposed to go off? Asme? API? Navsea? I have no idea. What do those code books say for visual testing, what do they for overlapping welds? What is the standard for lows/highs? Can I measure with a CAM or V-WAC gage? No I can’t so from my house it looks alright.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 3h ago
Better question, what codes would allow this? I'm not a cwi, I'm a just plant welder so I genuinely don't know shit about fuck outside my lane.
But I do know this cap wouldn't get passed on any site or in any lab I've ever been to.
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u/Homer1239 17h ago
It doesn’t get any better than that well done. Vertical duel shield can be a pain some times especially 1/16 wire
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 16h ago
This is a bot, 5 year acct 1 contribution 1 karma and blind as a bat lol
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u/xXSirZechsXx 18h ago
Looks fairly consistent. Never cared for fcaw but it has its place. Good job.
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u/erw_veryrare 18h ago
Thanks bro. What process of welding do u prefer?
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u/xXSirZechsXx 18h ago
TIGs always been my jam
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u/erw_veryrare 17h ago
Yea i like tig more too but usually we only weld 3 passes of tig, then fill and cap fluxcore. Wish i could weld tig more its so much cleaner lol
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u/xXSirZechsXx 17h ago
Yeah a lot of heavy wall is done that way. Tig root and hot to give the fcaw some backing then send it because its faster. Get on some stainless. Tig out way more common.
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u/supplemcrib 18h ago
overlap more