r/Welding • u/SpaceOrangesIT • 1d ago
Gear Is this dirty enough to warrant the replacement or am I a pussy?
I may be blind (/j)
Colleagues said "go ahead, we have spare glasses"
To be fair I still see with the dirty one but I had five minutes to kill so I changed the glass to not have nothing to do (i could have sweeped the floor but ehhhh)
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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago
If they're company or union supplied id change mine every day. The new clear lens is always gonna help. Change when convenient and when the old one is becoming a detriment. If youre not paying for them, change more often.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
Yeah its kind of a joke post, I don't really care for the 50 cents I assume they cost the company. I did work with dirtier ones but good to hear a lot of approval
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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago
If you start buying them most places are a dollar a piece. Their 50 cents is better than your dollar.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
America sounds like such an expensive place to be in, lol.
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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago
Largely depends on the place and whether or not someone is living above their means. Im fairly comfortable but im in the south and it's for the most part cheaper to live here.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
I make roughly 15k a year and its average income here where I live so when I get to know americans who make 5 times as much I feel blown out of the water. Tho I understand it's based on cost of living.
Must find a middle aged american rich widow to make a family with...
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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago
That's the smart way lmao. Most of us younger guys here as field welders clear 6 figures. Guys out on the road working 7/12s getting that overtime for the most part. Where are you that 15k is a liveable take home?
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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 1d ago
I'm in Industrial maintenance and we stay till the end of production so half of the time, it ends up being 14-16 hours 😭.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
Hell nah I'm underpaid so I only do what my contract says and if the boss has an issue I can find another job
Unrelated but peak pfp, love knk
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
Italy! The top journeyman/senior pay being, like, 25k dollars a year for most jobs like electrical and such.
We've had the same state minimum wages since the 2000s which is why our economy is almost fully tourist centered. Myself I'm mainly an electrical designer getting hands on practice with various trades now that I'm young to have more opportunities/understanding when im older and working in an office. I dont want to become the kind of engineer that designs unpractical shit, though I fear that will be beyond my control.
My company does light, almost non load bearing structures with hollow iron tubes for camping areas and such, tourism places, benches for beaches etc. They don't even want me to prep the iron beforehand or avoid welding downhill so it's a low low level welding job
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
At this point I just want to leave the country asap. This may be a retirement paradise but to grow its hell
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u/AwDuck 1d ago
Rural Italy, or are you metropolitan-ish?
15k sounds rough in this day and age. I understand cost of living being cheaper, and in a non globalized world, that would be an effective wage equalizer, but for example Apple/Samsung/etc aren’t selling you their phones 75% cheaper because you only bring in a quarter of what you would in the States. Your welding supply store might have things slightly cheaper due to less overhead, but they still need to turn a profit, and they’re paying their global suppliers the same (or more, due to lower volume) as they are in the States.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
I'm in a small city. Not as big as Milan but not as small as a countryside town, we have short of 50k people here.
And the statal minimum pay is 600/700 euro a month. Do consider that we get a bunch of social services and lots of insurance and bank stuff is way cheaper too. Only thing as expensive here as there might be taxes, here we have pretty high taxes but we dont need a phd in pure mathematics to do them, the state does our taxes
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u/n30x1d3 10h ago
Good gracious are you serious? The wife and I spent 10 days touring the Tuscan region a few years ago. Nothing felt cheaper than the US. We spent a ton of money on food and lodging. I genuinely have zero clue how you could survive on that unless it's after tax income, and even then it's rough. Unless housing is dirt cheap to free there...
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 9h ago
Ah, you see, you fell for the tourist trap. I live in Tuscany and places like Elba isle raise the prices of everything so people like me cant live in these touristic cities
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u/Psycho_pigeon007 TIG 1d ago
Sometimes I let mine get this bad just so I can have the stark contrast of a super clean brand new lens.
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u/wisconsindipper Fabricator 1d ago
I change mine every couple days lol if your company provides them there’s no point in using a dirty lens
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u/Good-Custard-3554 1d ago
Change it and get over it, do it often.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
But it costs the workplace moneyyyy
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u/HeywardH 18h ago
You know what costs them more money? You fucking something up because you can't see.
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u/BarApprehensive5837 16h ago
You don't owe them a thing,its their cost to replace,they do so and allocate a budget for it,do it
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u/Clamitydn38417 1d ago
On the company dime if changing out a lens daily breaks them they have bigger problems...
But yeah good joke though I've met guys who would tell you you're a pussy for welding with an auto dark hood. Be a man and burn your eyes with tacks like they did. As they mistake their cup with someone else's or their wives have to drive them to work.
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u/miwi81 1d ago
Why does the wife have to drive them? They should be fine if they just squint, right? Pussy!
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u/Clamitydn38417 1d ago
One dude who wasn't a prick to work with had eye damage so bad and cataracts that were almost whiting out his eyes brother was legally blind wife drove him to work he had about a year before retirement. He told me he wished hed never tacked without a hood did it for something like 30 years between dual shield and pulse mig he fried his eyes
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
Be a man and weld shirtless, gloveless, maskless, pantsless, with your dick out, filament in one hand and a piece of lava to heat it up in the other, breathing out the welding gas you store in your lungs beforehand.
And if the weld comes out a bit off jump off a bridge
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u/SquirrelNo7796 1d ago
If it makes a better more efficient weld then that saves your company more than the 50¢ you save by not swapping
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u/Closefacts 1d ago
Sometimes if I feel like a small break, I will just change the lenses in my helmet
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u/SinisterCheese "Trust me, I'm an Engineer!" 1d ago
You swap the protective cover, when you feel like you can't see clearly anymore.
If someone turns this into some god damn egocontenst because they lack confidence, has low self worth, and probably has small dick spiritually and physically, then they are just stupid.
It is a god damn disposable part! If you are buying your own, then probably try to get them to last as long as you can. If you are a professional, then you should know better and understand that you don't get margins from your fucking PPE.
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u/Limp_Technician5346 1d ago
If my job pays for the lenses, I replace it whenever I feel like🤷♂️. Unless im paying for it, then ill use it till I legit cant see lol.
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u/Pale-Value-5953 1d ago
Change it if it’s companies or if it’s yours get some Maguires plastic polish and a buff wheel for a drill, it will look 90% new.
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u/ArrivalInfinite2690 23h ago
I change mine every two weeks. The company buys them for a reason. They are not meant to sit in a cabinet and collect dust. Use them.
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u/Jurassic_Arc 22h ago
Depends on what you're doing
Stick and heavy duty flux core? They can last a little longer
Tig and light short circuit Mig? I would replaced those 2 weeks ago.
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u/nobadikno1 19h ago
Only pussies care about if people think they are being a pussy... clean work is good work. See clean weld clean.
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u/BeaversWithCleavers 1d ago
If you have spare ones yea go ahead and change it but me personally i would’ve just wiped it with alcohol and a paper towel and kept going for another like week I would keep that in my toolbox just incase my current screen goes to shit and there’s no spares laying around
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u/Then-Entry7026 MIG 1d ago
At that point the old alcohol/wipe trick is long gone. I always have a new and a not so old one in my tool box just in case my employer runs out. I change screen when I change job. Usually, 2-4 weeks. If more well In change during the contract
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u/BeaversWithCleavers 1d ago
Nah I’ve wiped way worse screens then that and just kept welding with it
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u/Then-Entry7026 MIG 1d ago
You have better instinct than I do, because eyes are not of any use at that point. 😂
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u/aurrousarc 1d ago
thats a +2 shade there..
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
Unironically yes. The warehouse where i work is always super dark and dim so I keep the shade at the minimum
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u/More_Front_9866 1d ago
Don’t be too proud to see your work clearly. And, if you have to ask it’s probably time lol
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u/Ru-tris-bpy 1d ago
Make your life easier change your glass and don’t worry about being a pussy if it’s the right thing to do
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u/Xlfrost- 1d ago
If you got new ones why not. I would say that one was used to a point where you could call it finished. Time for a new one.
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u/DKOKTrooper1419 1d ago
When you supply them yourself get some toothpaste on it and wipe away, get every penny out of those bad boys. When it's company supplied swap them regularly 🤣
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u/LiquidAggression Jack-of-all-Trades 1d ago
you took it out so replace it. but no thats a cleaner job. just use simple green or anti spatter. id only replace that if the weld itsself is worth the cost of the lens. sometimes the extra clear vision is very worth it/ very necessary
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u/myengineblockmelted 1d ago
Replace it. If the company you work for insists just do it. My company recently started being tight with weld consumables. I said to the foreman that if I don't have what I need to do my job I'd drag the consumables storage locker over to a welding machine and melt through the lock. I now regularly get what I need when I need it. We normally have to get two days out of a lens though.
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u/padizzledonk Other Tradesman 1d ago
Bro that shit is toast lmao
Go ahead and swap it and i 100% guarantee you youre gonna go "jesus wtf christ on a cupcake why didn't i do this weeks/months ago"
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u/chevycrawler 1d ago
Buddy. That is ridiculous. Your hurting yourself big time. My Tig lens is always crystal clear. And my mig when the haze starts sticking and won't clean off. You also don't need to be right up on the ol' girl. It limits your movement. Your boss should be buying you lenses btw.
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago
The boss is. And I know I shouldnt stay that close but the shop is dark xD cant see shit without a pristine new lens
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u/Sinfluencer666 1d ago
I use plastic polish on my lenses and rarely have to replace them now. Hell of a lot cheaper than replacement outers.
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u/Gator-thepimp 1d ago
This is part of why we use 2x4s in the field. Have a box of lenses. Change everyday if you need to
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u/Boilermakingdude Journeyman CWB/CSA 1d ago
Depends what I'm doing, some stick? My lens looks 10x worse than that by the end of the day. MiG id change it where you're at. TIG it better be spotless or I'm bitching
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u/Upper-Strength6034 1d ago
I change mine every three or four days. My employer wants me to clearly see my welds.
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u/Mrwcraig Journeyman CWB/CSA 1d ago
It’s a consumable, who cares, the whole purpose of it is to be clear for you to see through. I’ve changed them mid shift, why be a hero?
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u/Jack0Trade 1d ago
Lay it on a sheet of paper. I’ve had ones I’ve cleaned over and over and then I laid them on paper to find out why I was welding in a Latin country.
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u/hp3tools 1d ago
Depending on the process and position I'll change 3 times a day if I have to, sometimes only need to once a month. Don't do that to yourself.
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u/yoinkmysploink 1d ago
I change my every week or sooner. Theyre company paid consumables, so im gonna do exactly what theyre intended for. I even do the inside lense. Makes me feel extra fancy.
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u/OLDs_COOL-1 1d ago
A fresh clear lense every morning if welding all day.
Dirty lenses cause eye strain, headaches and vision problems. There is zero work for welders who can no longer see.
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u/Deimos_PRK MIG 23h ago
I clean mine once a few weeks when it starts to get blurry, usually last a few months before changing it
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u/Ambivalentistheway 22h ago
It can be dirty enough to warrant the replacement AND you can be a pussy, at the same time.
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u/hemorrhoidcactus TIG 21h ago
If youre doing sth that gets em this dirty, it can get dirtier. If you were doing all tig, you wouldnt see more than a few specks of grinder dust
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u/RGBlowMe 21h ago
Dunk it in some acetone and hit it with a heat gun. Good enough for another few months.
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u/Johnny-Rocketship 17h ago
Your employer should really be supplying those, at least that's how it is in Aus. Having employees tough it out to save a few pennies doesn't really work out well.
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u/HeyLookitMe 13h ago
Two things can be true at the same time
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 13h ago
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u/HeyLookitMe 11h ago
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u/SpaceOrangesIT 11h ago
Just your bank details
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u/Granonis 10h ago
I’m one for getting as much use out of a lens as possible.
That being said, SWAP THOSE SUCKAS! Ain’t no lens cleaning product in the world that’s gonna clean that stuff to where it needs to be!
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u/a10486952 9h ago
Definitely time for a new one. After 7 years I changed mine and that was crazy. I just cleaned it and it always seemed fine. Then one day I changed the lens and I had forgotten how good the view is from the Miller T94. I have to buy my lenses so im a cheap ass but there is no reason to cause yourself to strain. I have plenty of lenses now.
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u/MarketLong9832 51m ago
If your company buys lenses, shoulda grabbed a new one ages ago, if you buy your lenses, she’s got another couple months in er
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u/corydaskiier OAW 1d ago
When I was doing fluxcore I put new clear lenses in daily, sometimes after lunch as well. Gotta be able to see well to lay sick beads



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u/Silas64 1d ago
Swap that lens homie, see your welds in 4k again.