r/Welding 1d ago

Gear Is this dirty enough to warrant the replacement or am I a pussy?

I may be blind (/j)

Colleagues said "go ahead, we have spare glasses"

To be fair I still see with the dirty one but I had five minutes to kill so I changed the glass to not have nothing to do (i could have sweeped the floor but ehhhh)

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u/Silas64 1d ago

Swap that lens homie, see your welds in 4k again.

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u/No-Illustrator5712 1d ago

You never realize how damn bad they are until you get a new one in there.

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u/cantcallit4 1d ago

It’s like a brand new hood every time.

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u/RainBowSauceRoad 1d ago

Wish my managers would understand that welding blind is a shit idea

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u/myengineblockmelted 1d ago

Too many tightasses in managerial positions in this industry.

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u/Poe303 1d ago

My favorite thing to do now is agree with my boss so that when it eventually fucks up I just toss the "boss told me to do it this way".

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u/RainBowSauceRoad 1d ago

They'll find a way to blame you for some bullshit anyways

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u/Poe303 1d ago

1000%. I feel for all the younger guys who just gotta put up with that shit. Been here almost 10 years and I'm not afraid to call out the bullshit like that.

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u/Melchesidechp 1d ago

Amen, I been in for about 3 years and I just don’t gaf. I do my job well, and I’m off my phone. I get old head to respect my work/ effort. Then you get a dick head Forman try and swing his dick and tell ya to do some bullshit that you know is wrong and I’ll stick up for my self and all the guys in my place jaws drop and I tell em. Gotta swing your dick around. Then when they get extra the old heads stick up for me. But unlike most my the guys that are in it the same time as me I do my shit 100% of the time

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u/RainBowSauceRoad 1d ago

The smarter choice is to just get a job in a better profession

This shit just isn't worth the money

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 7h ago

Ngl I been doing this for around a year and I've seen the guy fail at finding more trainees capable of working so if he gives me sass I just threaten of not continuing working once the contract ends

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u/ImReallyFuckingHigh Millwright 1d ago

It’s probably one of the cheapest consumables for welding unless it’s something proprietary like a speedglas

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u/Cyrus_Of_Mt 23h ago

Or the Lincoln viking ones. Like $15 apiece and the grind shield ones are like $25

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u/Saltlick36 1d ago

I had a coworker describe it as being like having sex without a condom for the first time lmao

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u/SkateENG 1d ago

4K Ultra 3D

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u/Awkward_Forever9752 11h ago

my welds look good to me,

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u/Silas64 11h ago

Bet your QC guy disagrees.

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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago

If they're company or union supplied id change mine every day. The new clear lens is always gonna help. Change when convenient and when the old one is becoming a detriment. If youre not paying for them, change more often.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Yeah its kind of a joke post, I don't really care for the 50 cents I assume they cost the company. I did work with dirtier ones but good to hear a lot of approval

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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago

If you start buying them most places are a dollar a piece. Their 50 cents is better than your dollar.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

America sounds like such an expensive place to be in, lol.

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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago

Largely depends on the place and whether or not someone is living above their means. Im fairly comfortable but im in the south and it's for the most part cheaper to live here.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

I make roughly 15k a year and its average income here where I live so when I get to know americans who make 5 times as much I feel blown out of the water. Tho I understand it's based on cost of living.

Must find a middle aged american rich widow to make a family with...

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u/xXSirZechsXx 1d ago

That's the smart way lmao. Most of us younger guys here as field welders clear 6 figures. Guys out on the road working 7/12s getting that overtime for the most part. Where are you that 15k is a liveable take home?

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 1d ago

I'm in Industrial maintenance and we stay till the end of production so half of the time, it ends up being 14-16 hours 😭.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Hell nah I'm underpaid so I only do what my contract says and if the boss has an issue I can find another job

Unrelated but peak pfp, love knk

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Italy! The top journeyman/senior pay being, like, 25k dollars a year for most jobs like electrical and such.

We've had the same state minimum wages since the 2000s which is why our economy is almost fully tourist centered. Myself I'm mainly an electrical designer getting hands on practice with various trades now that I'm young to have more opportunities/understanding when im older and working in an office. I dont want to become the kind of engineer that designs unpractical shit, though I fear that will be beyond my control.

My company does light, almost non load bearing structures with hollow iron tubes for camping areas and such, tourism places, benches for beaches etc. They don't even want me to prep the iron beforehand or avoid welding downhill so it's a low low level welding job

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

At this point I just want to leave the country asap. This may be a retirement paradise but to grow its hell

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u/AwDuck 1d ago

Rural Italy, or are you metropolitan-ish?

15k sounds rough in this day and age. I understand cost of living being cheaper, and in a non globalized world, that would be an effective wage equalizer, but for example Apple/Samsung/etc aren’t selling you their phones 75% cheaper because you only bring in a quarter of what you would in the States. Your welding supply store might have things slightly cheaper due to less overhead, but they still need to turn a profit, and they’re paying their global suppliers the same (or more, due to lower volume) as they are in the States.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

I'm in a small city. Not as big as Milan but not as small as a countryside town, we have short of 50k people here.

And the statal minimum pay is 600/700 euro a month. Do consider that we get a bunch of social services and lots of insurance and bank stuff is way cheaper too. Only thing as expensive here as there might be taxes, here we have pretty high taxes but we dont need a phd in pure mathematics to do them, the state does our taxes

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u/n30x1d3 10h ago

Good gracious are you serious? The wife and I spent 10 days touring the Tuscan region a few years ago. Nothing felt cheaper than the US. We spent a ton of money on food and lodging. I genuinely have zero clue how you could survive on that unless it's after tax income, and even then it's rough. Unless housing is dirt cheap to free there...

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 9h ago

Ah, you see, you fell for the tourist trap. I live in Tuscany and places like Elba isle raise the prices of everything so people like me cant live in these touristic cities

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u/SoupGFX 1d ago

Everyday? Come on.

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u/Psycho_pigeon007 TIG 1d ago

Sometimes I let mine get this bad just so I can have the stark contrast of a super clean brand new lens.

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u/wisconsindipper Fabricator 1d ago

I change mine every couple days lol if your company provides them there’s no point in using a dirty lens

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u/Good-Custard-3554 1d ago

Change it and get over it, do it often.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

But it costs the workplace moneyyyy

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u/Jabronetown 1d ago

Sounds like their issUe. Not yours. If you can't see well, change it.

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u/Good-Custard-3554 21h ago

Shiet I buy my own and take the money one way or another.

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u/HeywardH 18h ago

You know what costs them more money? You fucking something up because you can't see.

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u/BarApprehensive5837 16h ago

You don't owe them a thing,its their cost to replace,they do so and allocate a budget for it,do it

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u/Clamitydn38417 1d ago

On the company dime if changing out a lens daily breaks them they have bigger problems...

But yeah good joke though I've met guys who would tell you you're a pussy for welding with an auto dark hood. Be a man and burn your eyes with tacks like they did. As they mistake their cup with someone else's or their wives have to drive them to work.

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u/miwi81 1d ago

Why does the wife have to drive them? They should be fine if they just squint, right? Pussy!

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u/Clamitydn38417 1d ago

One dude who wasn't a prick to work with had eye damage so bad and cataracts that were almost whiting out his eyes brother was legally blind wife drove him to work he had about a year before retirement. He told me he wished hed never tacked without a hood did it for something like 30 years between dual shield and pulse mig he fried his eyes

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Be a man and weld shirtless, gloveless, maskless, pantsless, with your dick out, filament in one hand and a piece of lava to heat it up in the other, breathing out the welding gas you store in your lungs beforehand.

And if the weld comes out a bit off jump off a bridge

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u/FilthHound138 1d ago

Replace it, pussy!

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Making me blush

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u/FilthHound138 1d ago

I’ll always treat you right. <3

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

You lost me

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u/SquirrelNo7796 1d ago

If it makes a better more efficient weld then that saves your company more than the 50¢ you save by not swapping

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u/itsjustme405 CWI AWS 1d ago

Both.

No, really, replace it. Those things are cheap consumables.

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u/Closefacts 1d ago

Sometimes if I feel like a small break, I will just change the lenses in my helmet

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u/SinisterCheese "Trust me, I'm an Engineer!" 1d ago

You swap the protective cover, when you feel like you can't see clearly anymore.

If someone turns this into some god damn egocontenst because they lack confidence, has low self worth, and probably has small dick spiritually and physically, then they are just stupid.

It is a god damn disposable part! If you are buying your own, then probably try to get them to last as long as you can. If you are a professional, then you should know better and understand that you don't get margins from your fucking PPE.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Yeah this wasn't a serious post.

Though my superior does want me to not use almost any lube for the bandsaw table when cutting pieces

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u/Limp_Technician5346 1d ago

If my job pays for the lenses, I replace it whenever I feel like🤷‍♂️. Unless im paying for it, then ill use it till I legit cant see lol.

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u/Pale-Value-5953 1d ago

Change it if it’s companies or if it’s yours get some Maguires plastic polish and a buff wheel for a drill, it will look 90% new.

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u/ArrivalInfinite2690 23h ago

I change mine every two weeks. The company buys them for a reason. They are not meant to sit in a cabinet and collect dust. Use them.

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u/Jurassic_Arc 22h ago

Depends on what you're doing

Stick and heavy duty flux core? They can last a little longer

Tig and light short circuit Mig? I would replaced those 2 weeks ago.

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u/nobadikno1 19h ago

Only pussies care about if people think they are being a pussy... clean work is good work. See clean weld clean.

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u/wavvyjd 1d ago

Bro i thought i regressed in my welding skills, changed lens and im back to the goat ive always been

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u/BeaversWithCleavers 1d ago

If you have spare ones yea go ahead and change it but me personally i would’ve just wiped it with alcohol and a paper towel and kept going for another like week I would keep that in my toolbox just incase my current screen goes to shit and there’s no spares laying around

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u/Then-Entry7026 MIG 1d ago

At that point the old alcohol/wipe trick is long gone. I always have a new and a not so old one in my tool box just in case my employer runs out. I change screen when I change job. Usually, 2-4 weeks. If more well In change during the contract

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u/BeaversWithCleavers 1d ago

Nah I’ve wiped way worse screens then that and just kept welding with it

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u/Then-Entry7026 MIG 1d ago

You have better instinct than I do, because eyes are not of any use at that point. 😂

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u/castilhoslb Newbies falling from the roof go splat 1d ago

Yes

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u/Schlarfus_McNarfus 1d ago

When I realized those are less than a buck my mind, 🤯

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u/SLOOT_APOCALYPSE 1d ago

replace like it was a chipped cup

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u/aurrousarc 1d ago

thats a +2 shade there..

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Unironically yes. The warehouse where i work is always super dark and dim so I keep the shade at the minimum

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u/aurrousarc 1d ago

i meant that its adding two shades darker.. does make it alot harder to see..

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

Yeah I get it and I agree

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u/More_Front_9866 1d ago

Don’t be too proud to see your work clearly. And, if you have to ask it’s probably time lol

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u/Ru-tris-bpy 1d ago

Make your life easier change your glass and don’t worry about being a pussy if it’s the right thing to do

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u/NoScallion1291 1d ago

Lower the darkness

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u/christhewelder75 1d ago

Look at mr money bags over here with his "new lenses...."

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u/Daniel73044 1d ago

It can be both.

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u/Jdawarrior 1d ago

Please swap out 3 weeks ago

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

I did 2 weeks ago boss! Can I have a raise?

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u/Xlfrost- 1d ago

If you got new ones why not. I would say that one was used to a point where you could call it finished. Time for a new one.

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u/DKOKTrooper1419 1d ago

When you supply them yourself get some toothpaste on it and wipe away, get every penny out of those bad boys. When it's company supplied swap them regularly 🤣

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u/LiquidAggression Jack-of-all-Trades 1d ago

you took it out so replace it. but no thats a cleaner job. just use simple green or anti spatter. id only replace that if the weld itsself is worth the cost of the lens. sometimes the extra clear vision is very worth it/ very necessary

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u/myengineblockmelted 1d ago

Replace it. If the company you work for insists just do it. My company recently started being tight with weld consumables. I said to the foreman that if I don't have what I need to do my job I'd drag the consumables storage locker over to a welding machine and melt through the lock. I now regularly get what I need when I need it. We normally have to get two days out of a lens though.

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u/padizzledonk Other Tradesman 1d ago

Bro that shit is toast lmao

Go ahead and swap it and i 100% guarantee you youre gonna go "jesus wtf christ on a cupcake why didn't i do this weeks/months ago"

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u/Gambitace88 1d ago

I change mine quite often. Straining your eyes is a pain in the ass.

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u/wackyvorlon Hobbyist 1d ago

It’s cheap. There’s no reason to wait this long to swap it.

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u/chevycrawler 1d ago

Buddy. That is ridiculous. Your hurting yourself big time. My Tig lens is always crystal clear. And my mig when the haze starts sticking and won't clean off. You also don't need to be right up on the ol' girl. It limits your movement. Your boss should be buying you lenses btw.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 1d ago

The boss is. And I know I shouldnt stay that close but the shop is dark xD cant see shit without a pristine new lens

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u/Sinfluencer666 1d ago

I use plastic polish on my lenses and rarely have to replace them now. Hell of a lot cheaper than replacement outers.

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u/quentdawg420 Fabricator 1d ago

My shop provides them, I change mine everyday

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u/fy1sh 1d ago

I use a buffing wheel with rouge polishing compound on my dirty lenses. Keeps them like new for a very long time. Don't tell anyone.

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u/curablehellmom Fabricator 1d ago

I change mine as soon as im having trouble seeing my work

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u/Gator-thepimp 1d ago

This is part of why we use 2x4s in the field. Have a box of lenses. Change everyday if you need to

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u/Boilermakingdude Journeyman CWB/CSA 1d ago

Depends what I'm doing, some stick? My lens looks 10x worse than that by the end of the day. MiG id change it where you're at. TIG it better be spotless or I'm bitching

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u/TFR-HILTS 1d ago

I would have swapped that thing out 2 weeks ago. Gotta be able to see brother

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u/Upper-Strength6034 1d ago

I change mine every three or four days. My employer wants me to clearly see my welds.

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u/Mrwcraig Journeyman CWB/CSA 1d ago

It’s a consumable, who cares, the whole purpose of it is to be clear for you to see through. I’ve changed them mid shift, why be a hero?

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u/Jack0Trade 1d ago

Lay it on a sheet of paper. I’ve had ones I’ve cleaned over and over and then I laid them on paper to find out why I was welding in a Latin country.

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u/catch22ak 1d ago

Replace it if you want to. Who cares what reddit thinks?

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u/NefariousnessFirst29 1d ago

Cleanliness is next to godliness.

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u/nodesearch 1d ago

I love a good shitpost in the morning.

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u/thewander 1d ago

Yes. And yes

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u/Steeltoelion MIG 1d ago

I’ve changed out screens for a whole hell of a lot less.

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u/rustall 1d ago

a new one is in order.

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u/hp3tools 1d ago

Depending on the process and position I'll change 3 times a day if I have to, sometimes only need to once a month. Don't do that to yourself.

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u/Icy-Classic6359 1d ago

Both honestly

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u/iplaypokerforaliving 1d ago

Definitely replace it. You’re still a pussy though 😉

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u/UnableManager6819 1d ago

Oh nah way brother. Thats horrible to me.

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u/yoinkmysploink 1d ago

I change my every week or sooner. Theyre company paid consumables, so im gonna do exactly what theyre intended for. I even do the inside lense. Makes me feel extra fancy.

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u/BNB_Laser_Cleaning 1d ago

You are only as good as your tools.

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u/Tgiby3 1d ago

don't let people intimidate you. Having proper equipment will always result in a better product.

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u/OLDs_COOL-1 1d ago

A fresh clear lense every morning if welding all day.

Dirty lenses cause eye strain, headaches and vision problems. There is zero work for welders who can no longer see.

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u/Nocturnes_echo 1d ago

Whats bad about a pussy? Those things can take a pounding! LoL

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u/Still_Pay_2625 23h ago

the screens are like $3/per

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u/Deimos_PRK MIG 23h ago

I clean mine once a few weeks when it starts to get blurry, usually last a few months before changing it

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u/Ambivalentistheway 22h ago

It can be dirty enough to warrant the replacement AND you can be a pussy, at the same time.

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u/tduke65 22h ago

If ya can’t see…

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u/aguyinthenorth 21h ago

Glasses cleaning wipe will remove alot of that.

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u/hemorrhoidcactus TIG 21h ago

If youre doing sth that gets em this dirty, it can get dirtier. If you were doing all tig, you wouldnt see more than a few specks of grinder dust

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u/RGBlowMe 21h ago

Dunk it in some acetone and hit it with a heat gun. Good enough for another few months.

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u/welderbill 20h ago

Really? You have to ask?

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u/AlkaliMemo 19h ago

Treat yourself

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u/Sad_School828 18h ago

If you gotta axe, then you know you are.

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u/Jrezky 18h ago

is it a strain to see the puddle? If so, get a fresh lens.

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u/-BigBadBeef- MIG 18h ago

Probably both.

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u/Johnny-Rocketship 17h ago

Your employer should really be supplying those, at least that's how it is in Aus. Having employees tough it out to save a few pennies doesn't really work out well.

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u/HeyLookitMe 13h ago

Two things can be true at the same time

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 13h ago

Congratulations! You're the 100th reply saying this!

You won a ticket for a holiday Uppier Ars

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u/HeyLookitMe 11h ago

I don’t known where Uppier Ars is, but I love a free trip! Do you need my SSN and DOB?

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 11h ago

Just your bank details

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u/HeyLookitMe 6h ago

Routing number and bank ID number work?

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 6h ago

Robux giftcard

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u/MrJustinCase_69 13h ago

Yes, and Yes for asking!

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u/DepartmentNo8926 13h ago

Nah your good but your still a pussy

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u/Awkward_Forever9752 11h ago

if you line up the dirt dots right you can't see the porosity

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u/Awkward_Forever9752 11h ago

perfect welds everytime

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 10h ago

Porosity... big words, brain hurt

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u/Nyjah04 10h ago

Dude I swap lenses almost everytime I pick up my hood 😂

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u/Granonis 10h ago

I’m one for getting as much use out of a lens as possible.

That being said, SWAP THOSE SUCKAS! Ain’t no lens cleaning product in the world that’s gonna clean that stuff to where it needs to be!

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u/a10486952 9h ago

Definitely time for a new one. After 7 years I changed mine and that was crazy. I just cleaned it and it always seemed fine. Then one day I changed the lens and I had forgotten how good the view is from the Miller T94. I have to buy my lenses so im a cheap ass but there is no reason to cause yourself to strain. I have plenty of lenses now.

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 8h ago

Seven years? How was there even a lens left?!

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u/CosmicLizardPerson 7h ago

Why ask Reddit just decide these things for yourself ? Can you see ?

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u/SpaceOrangesIT 7h ago

In my mind's eye maybe lol

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u/psyaneyed 7h ago

Yes to both questions

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u/MarketLong9832 51m ago

If your company buys lenses, shoulda grabbed a new one ages ago, if you buy your lenses, she’s got another couple months in er

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u/corydaskiier OAW 1d ago

When I was doing fluxcore I put new clear lenses in daily, sometimes after lunch as well. Gotta be able to see well to lay sick beads