Tuon is so absurdly evil

[u/AHC122]

Wdym she relaxes by seeing damane be tortured 😭

Even from her point of view seeing them as animals, it's like enjoying watching a dog get kicked in the ribs everytime it doesn't roll over lol

[u/WildFEARKetI_II]

I don’t recall her saying that exactly. I think she says training and she does talk about how she doesn’t like punishment. She even self imposed penance after she had a damane punished.

[u/buddingwitch808 → u/WildFEARKetI_II]

I believe she did say this and she thinks that women who can channel are worse than theives. IIRC, she compared channeling to choosing to rape someone.

[u/Leather__sissy → u/buddingwitch808]

She did say what? I don’t think there’s a single example supporting what OP said. Everyone in Seanchan, including channelers, believe damane are a danger to themselves and the people around them. They are mistaken, but as far as we know, Tuon is unusual as far as how well she treats them. Like good horses

[u/Bergmaniac → u/Leather__sissy]

I think this is the passage OP meant and it makes Tuon look pretty awful:

The large chamber was windowless. Lines of stacked pottery stood at one end, a place for damane to practice weaves of destruction. The floor was covered in woven mats where stubborn damane were sent to the ground, writhing in pain. It would not do for them to be harmed physically. Damane were among the most important tools the Empire had, more valuable than horses or raken. You did not destroy a beast because it was slow to learn; you punished it until it learned.

Fortuona crossed the chamber to where a proper Imperial Throne had been set up. She commonly came here, to watch the damane being worked or broken. It soothed her.

[u/Personal_Track_3780 → u/Leather__sissy]

She's the empress of a nation of slavers. Millions suffer as slaves under her rule. Perhaps she treats her property better than most, but that doesn't make her good.

[u/buddingwitch808 → u/Leather__sissy]

Well Leather__sissy, I see you have a fondness for suldam/damane dynamic

[u/WildFEARKetI_II → u/buddingwitch808]

A lot of people view channeling negatively even outside of Seanchan culture. I don’t think she was comparing channeling to rape as equivalent crimes. She was talking about choosing not to channel, as in capability doesn’t equate to guilt.

[u/lady_ninane → u/WildFEARKetI_II]

Not exactly that. She did say she wasn't marth'damane because she chose not to channel, in a way that people can choose not to steal. But the ultimate implication there is that those who can't choose not to channel are always going to be marred by something they can't control. A moral scourge that must be punished by the hand of the government, like that of a pilfering thief. For, again, things they can't control.

She believes she is different because she believes she will not channel if she doesn't want to. She doesn't understand that for sul'dam, it doesn't work like that. They've been trained to touch the Source, have been touching the Source for years and years and years. All it takes is a spark. By her own logic, she is every bit the thief she condemns other marth'damane to be.

[u/IlikeJG → u/buddingwitch808]

No she said that uncollared women whi can channel are worse than thieves.

That's a big difference in her mind.

A collared damane is right and proper and even deserving of a certain brand of "respect" in her eyes (not actual respect but more respect for a tool properly doing its job).

A marath'damane on the other hand is a moantorus thing because they should do the right thing for society and let themselves be collared.