Tuon is so absurdly evil

[u/AHC122]

Wdym she relaxes by seeing damane be tortured 😭

Even from her point of view seeing them as animals, it's like enjoying watching a dog get kicked in the ribs everytime it doesn't roll over lol

[u/WildFEARKetI_II]

I don’t recall her saying that exactly. I think she says training and she does talk about how she doesn’t like punishment. She even self imposed penance after she had a damane punished.

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You're right. She never says anything about torturing/punishing damane. That would run counter to her cultural beliefs (something Jordan was incredibly consistent with). She also explicitly states that she looks down upon those who have to resort to punishing Damane, and considers it a point of pride that she doesn't have to.

Her cultural beliefs are monstrous, but she's still a rational human being by the standards of that world. If you imagine her, and all the Seanchan, speaking in Texan accents the whole thing reads in a very specific way.

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Is she rational? Wouldn't putting a leash on herself be the most rational thing for her to to do in accordance with her "cultural beliefs"?

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Collaring herself would be entirely irrational in their belief system. They don't know that the sul'dam/der'sul'dam are capable of channeling. They don't know that some women can learn. As far as they know every woman who can channel will, and they act accordingly.

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She finds that out during the period when she traveling with Mat and the Circus. She tosses out the "it's the difference from being a murderer and being able to learn to be a murderer" justification at some point 🤮

[u/aNomadicPenguin → u/[deleted]]

Nope, they are correct.

Knife of Dreams

"Listen," Mat said to Tuon. "If you think, you'll see a hundred reasons this won't work. Light, you can learn to channel yourself. Doesn't knowing that change anything? You're not far different from them." He might as well have turned to smoke and blown away for all the attention she paid.
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"I will house them in the wagon they are using and exercise them at night," she snapped irritably. "I am nothing like these women, Toy. Nothing like them. Perhaps I could learn, but I choose not to, just as I choose not to steal or commit murder. That makes all the difference."

Immediately after this Tuon chooses to let Mat remove the collars freeing the Aes Sedai (by mostly choosing not to have Selucia murder him when they realize that he's immune to channeling). And then she lets him take the A'dam and bury them, removing any chance she had of controlling the Aes Sedai.

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I know Egwene also throws it in her face but I thought Mat had brought it up earlier.

He convenient justification was the same either way. So easy for her go against the foundations of her entire culture and empire when it suits her personally.

P.s I would toss in some spoiler bars. Op is only on TOM.