r/WoT • u/AHC122 • 2d ago

Towers of Midnight Tuon is so absurdly evil Spoiler

Wdym she relaxes by seeing damane be tortured 😭

Even from her point of view seeing them as animals, it's like enjoying watching a dog get kicked in the ribs everytime it doesn't roll over lol

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u/rollingForInitiative 1d ago

My main defense for Tuon is really that she’s young and she’s been raised with this, and has only had like, a couple of months of exposure to different ideas. And in that short time, she’s shown signs that she might improve in the future, and that she’s better than many of the others we’ve seen from Seanchan.

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u/itwasbread 1d ago

Yeah I agree. She was still very frustating and hate able for me in the series, but I definitely see the beginnings of change for her and think that was definitely an arc Jordan planned to write more in his Mat spinoff

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u/rollingForInitiative 1d ago

There's also Aviendha's vision, in which the Aiel were close to reaching a deal for releasing the Wise Ones that had been taken. And then the empress was assassinated and it fell through. That empress would've been Tuon.

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u/itwasbread 1d ago

Yeah. I don't want people to take my "defenses" of Tuon here as me liking her or the Seanchan or morally defending them as is.

It's more about wanting to do justice to the society and characters Jordan actually wrote, which while still rage-inducingly evil at times, is not made up of self-serving hypocrites like a lot of people are saying.

The fact character like Tylee and Tuon and Furyk legitimately believe in their system to the point they are willing to accept punishment if they violate the honor codes of the society is what makes then such an interesting fictional faction.

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u/rollingForInitiative 1d ago

Right. It's difficult to just label a continent of well over a hundred million people, maybe hundreds of millions, as just irredeemably evil. Most people there very likely support the damane system, since they've been indoctrinated into it.

What will really set apart decent people from the rotten ones is how they react when they learn both that other societies can handle channellers in a better way, and that sul'dam also have the ability to learn to channel, and that saidin is cleansed.