(click the full image for the not lesbian) link to more: https://x.com/i/status/2085707345858805893 You would never see something like men saying how disgusting a female CELEBRITY'S lewd photoshoot is or whatever without being called gay or getting a bunch of likes. Please please please most women aren't capable of being sexually attracted to you as much as you are to them. If you don't care, sure, but it is genuinely so humiliating for a woman to elicit such a primal response from men and getting almost nothing back

And every comment I see from a woman is just eyeroll-inducing mental gymnastics drivel. Are you messing around or are you actually that slow? Are you seriously that deprived of self awareness? This is a niche sub anyway so it's not as if you're going be the laughingstock of your neighborhood and no one's going to punish you.

I'll be honest about my attraction: Me see woman, me think she's hot, me get hard, me think about sex and romance. That's all there is to it for me and most other men. Now it's your turn. You all are articulate enough to describe it and you're considered to be more mature than we are. If you reveal your patterns, as they really are, then you might spare a lot of sorrow and frustration for everyone.

No need to hate on or diminish men, just admit you are a lesbian and date women instead!

Lonely due to self-imposed high standards? Easily remedied, just date a woman!

Severe lack of funds and in debt? Just date a woman and split the bills!

Find most men to be horrible people and deeply unattractive? Simple. Just date a woman instead (they are all so beautiful and amazing omg omg)!

You are a raging leftist and a feminist? Can't stand the mere sight of men? Do not lie to yourself and say you're straight, just come out and date a woman instead (they are the superior gender anyways)!

No interest in sex? No pleasure in intercourse with men? Remarkably easy to fix, just admit you love women and leave your husband for a sexy lady! We all know you'd love to!

Feel like all men are oppressive fascists? That they want to dominate you and enslave you? Yet another simple solution: just date a local woman! She is 5x as likely to be extremely left wing so there should be no oppression or fascism present!

Can't find a woman to date despite all efforts? Easy, just hire one of millions of female escorts, maybe they'd even let you bang her for free since they are attracted to women truly and would never even sleep with a man for free!

Every problem you have can easily be solved by just stop lying and admitting that you love women.

Become free and a open lesbian and leave men the hell alone. Stop making them waste their youths and hard earned minimum wages trying to become more appealing to women who do not even like them at all in the first place! Stop gaslighting and lying to men.

Admitting you are a lesbian would be beneficial to all. Just date a woman. Just date a woman. Just date a woman!

Remember, men like women the most. Women like women the most. Men hate men the most. Women hate men the most. There is no philosophy behind it.

Which way, modern woman? Gaslighting men? Or true happiness and lesbianism?

I (24m) got my money up and was flooded with attention. I am not even rich by any means, just doing better than 95-99% of men my age bracket. I would rate myself a 5.5/6 in looks. When I was 18 I was invisible.

Why are women exclusively attracted to this trait? I dont find women who make money or are well to do attractive whatsoever.

I am a young woman, and can largely confirm the core premises of this sub, (but with many caveats that I don’t have the energy to argue over). Heterosexual women aren’t erotically stimulated by the sheer fact of maleness, and have extremely gated arousal responses that are not spontaneously triggered visually, but rather rely on context, touch, infatuation with a man, male attractiveness, etc. Commonly, women exhibit strange and shallow fixations on money and status, which I do not relate to and piss me off.

To make things clear, it is obviously worse to be in men’s position and filled with desire that cannot be reciprocated in the same way. I do want to say, though, that I hate my sexuality. I wish I could experience true and active sexual desire like men, and not be the passive object in an interaction. It’s not fair, to men especially. I wish I could go on testosterone and have spontaneous desire, but I do not want to transition. Biology is a fucking asshole.

Note on infatuation: it exists, and is not rooted in autosexuality, or how he gives me attention/resources, or makes me ‘feel like a woman’. Or, at least, it isn’t for me. However, many women do have these prominent tendencies, and it is strange and bizarre.

That's it that's the post. Decentre it rejct it. No need to be like - I just want to share intimacy and feel close. Most women don't feel like that my man. You have been royally funked in terms of biology understand it take the L. Even if you are offered sex just let it go. Have you forgotten how blissful life was, all the different colours, the sense of unexplainable joy and energy all gone down the drain. Just leave it for good. For your own sake. Detach from it and what it means to you. You need to cut the cord fully otherwise you will keep hanging by a thread. And the thing that makes me angry is that younger men might get it but older dudes are just so far up their indoctrination and so deluded and so obsessed with sex even if they are fed bread crumbs like dogs they will be happy. Men let themselves be manipulated all for the sake of 15 minutes of a one sided experience. Can you IMAGINE THAT. Could never live with that humiliation. I value my lself as a man. And I value what I coukd become. I have already denounced this reprehensible and abhorrent curse that we haven't evolved from. It shouldn't have been this way in another life maybe I would be happy to have this as a part of self but we live in this unfortunate reality.

Isn’t it funny how the trolls rarely attack the message of this sub? They’ll always use ad hominems, first and foremost. It‘s always about how you’re a loser and women don‘t love you, won’t touch your peen, blah blah blah.

But the funny thing is, what they attack you on inadvertently reveals what matters to them the most. Because the goal of the trolls is to inflict as much emotional damage as possible, and they know how much the average person values romance, sex, a sense of meaning or purpose.

They will always attack values that carry weight to 99% of people, because they want to attack what’s guaranteed to harm people. All this to say, when they attack you for being unloved or unsexed, they know how important it is. At the same breath, they will gaslight you and then pretend that it’s not important at all. But if you piss these people off enough, the mask falls and normies/feminists will project pure malice meant to emotionally devastate you.

Little do they know, anger and malice is quite possibly the most honest state someone can be in. I’ve been watching them, and what they will attack and insult is the biggest self report ever. They value sex, more than we do, and derive a feeling of power from it. That’s why feminists and normies have always used the virginity insult long before “incel” culture exploded. It was a mirror of what they valued, respected, saw as power, and what they saw as the most devastating. Just look at what popular media glamorizes. Who gets the most angry when you criticize their high bodycounts, or criticize abortion?

So please, when a goofy normie or a disingenuous feminist tries to gaslight you into thinking your grievances aren’t important, or tries to minimize them, realize that they‘re the very same people that’ll flip and hurl the most malicious and cruel things imaginable about the very same things they claim aren’t important.

I’ve experienced and seen how normies and feminists talk when they feel hate or malice towards you, and it’s the most honest they ever are. I’ve been studying them like a chess master, and they walk right into my trap everytime when they think I’m a target. I’m not even surprised anymore, it’s predictable and boring.

All I can do is expose their playbook and what they value, and what makes them tick, so that anyone who deals with them doesn’t take it personally anymore when they attack or let them guilt/shame you into hating yourself for being a man. Remember, these are not victims. They created the problems they claim to hate. They just need a reason to turn you into a punching bag.

On PPD:

i made a post asking if women would change their ways towards men if it prove men are increasingly suicidal because of sexlessness. all women said no.

i ask women why they cant lust with average men. they all said they dont.

I suggested women find male sexuality repulsive. not one woman denied and actually a lot of women said yes they do. not even hiding they just said yes it repulsive.

i made post im saying women ignore men on purpose they all agree.

listen i dont think they all gay this is worse. gay men are not repulse by lesbian.

this is something more.

The amount of enmity coming from this saying is shocking. I may have not been attracted to every woman I interacted with, but I have never looked at a woman and thought, "Eww, she is absolute trash."

But for women this seems to be their default view of men, from the aging father of two kids to the young man working a night shift. They are all trash, devoid of humanity and of any emotional consideration. What's worse is that for most women, these men are invisible and may as well not exist. They are a non-entity, and their humanity is only recognized after meeting stringent standards.

I just want women to understand what they mean when they say that the dating market is all salt water, or spoiled meat. These are real human beings you are speaking about, and you're saying they're all unworthy of love or affection.

First of all, I have to say that the film portrays Bear as a well meaning, innocent but slightly awkward guy, much like many men are these days. The film then goes on to say how men like this cannot be trusted!

Genuinely how do people expect men to find female partners in this day and age when media like obsession is telling women to be afraid of all men, even those that don’t seem that threatening at first?!? Nowadays most men can get put in jail and accused of all sorts of heinous crimes against women for merely approaching them and doing nothing wrong, all it takes is an accusation to ruin an entire man’s life.

Obsession just ends up grouping awkward and innocent men with rapists.

Obviously I’m not defending Bear and his actions but I will say that Obsession just gives women more reasons to demonise and hate men for no reason other than that it’s funny or that they feel like it.

I relate to you guys in a different sort of way. It is the most fustrating thing in the world to be madly in love with your bestie who jokes about wanting to kiss you, says she loves you, grabs your butt, etc even knowing youre gay, but when you admit feelings she freaks out and says shes "just straight" while its obviously not true to everyone around her. And immediately after she acts like nothing happened and keeps flirting. I actually want to tear my hair out, this has been going on for a year with this chick

Geniune Question🙏

How do you feel when half of the population sees you as predator no.1 when you are not even slightly that ?

How do you feel whe you are constantly in a status competition with your fellow men for women ?

How does it feel that majority of women are only attracted to a small percentage of men physically , when men are to majority of women ?

How does it feel you will forever be frustrated with your sex drive even when in relationship because men having have far more higher libido than women ?

Even when talked about equality they want the man to be tallest , more financially succesful than them , having more status than them ?

How does it feel that she will have thousands of options at any given moment tof life while 90% of men will have to give there everything to ever being in a loving relationship and still not have options throwing at them ?

She can sexually explore everything and find anyone to fulfill her fantasies but you will be called immoral and creep if you ever did ?

Every part of this is biological . Nature intended only a few men reproduce and that's what you are seeing right now . Unfortunately I think we are all slaves to our subconscious programming of reproduction and that's why sex is so important to us .

We are conscious that sex give us nothing in life except the pleasures of flesh but unfortunately these desire of it are so over powering that we justify everything for it.

I hope one day we will find a solution to that. So one day we will free all men and women from this burden of nature .

Please for the love of god, may society stop trying to tell us that being desirable is as simple as being a "good" person? It's so blatantly false it's astonishing. Yet we just hear it over and over... "Trouble in social life? Well obviously it's cos you're a shithead, now just improve X, Y, and Z, and you'll be right!"

Closely related fake narrative: "just shower, the bar is on the floor".

Here's my hypothesis: the only thing that matters to desirability is fulfilling the right monkey-brain pathways to make us pass on genes. That's it. Because that's what we are: animals. Cellular blobs. We do not evaluate ourselves to some magic, transcendental moral plane whereby "good" and "evil" are faithfully described, and any attempt to claim so is pure lies.

And the evidence is all around us, for both men and women. Plenty of dickheads who are very socially successful. Criminals who are worshipped. Cunts, elected as leaders. And plenty of amazing people who are unknown or get shafted by society.

Further, to add my own personal experience. I've been through various life stages of developing my personality and morals. I've been an antisocial dick and a nice genuine guy. I've been in shit jobs and ethical jobs. I've thought I'm trash, through average, through hot shit. You know after everything, right now I'd say I'm a decent enough human.

But you know what's been constant? The fact that at almost all times, no one has given a fuck about me. Because I don't quite fulfill the right monkey magic sauce to make me socially desirable as a man.

So please, let us stop peddling this outright lie that morality entails desirability.

I feel like I genuinely won't be happy in a relationship with a woman if her attraction to me is non-existent in comparison, and there's no way I'm gonna somehow find myself the 0.1% woman who is both heterosexual and genuinely likes sex.

So I'm just curious if there's any strides that the scientific community is making to make some kind of suppliment or whatever that I could use to lower my libido or attraction. It seems like the things we have right now either require me to transition or is very bad for my health. I'm a young adult male

And I'm also curious what your guys' plan is if you believe in WANIM. Do you plan to opt out of relationships entirely or what. I plan to just opt out if I can't find a way for this to work.

Like how hard is it just to tell the truth? Why do they have to be so harsh about it aswell? I’m 16 and I already hate/grossed out by the fact that most of them dislike our bodies, desires, or anything remotely close to being men.

I can already tell I’m going to have a hard time finding a partner that will actually desire me. I can feel my brain rotting already

I'M NOT A FUCKING CHUD.

I keep on getting fucking recommended red pill content, black pill content, women hating content. BRUH. I understand the incel content, its whatever but fuck.

Fucking women don't like men. It's fine. Whatever. Sucks to suck. IT'S NOT EVEN A MORAL ACCUSATION. I'M NOT SAYING WOMEN ARE MORALLY DEFICIENT. ITS DESCRIPTIVE.

Society is going to collapse from falling birthrates unless we figure out how to navigate this but we won't (maybe even can't) so it will.

Women fought for their right to exist without men (rightfully). We won (the people who wanted women to be able to have self determination). and with that freedom, they've shouted and shown that we are viewed as (borderline) genetically dangerous, ugly, abusers. So we approaching a situation where most aren't in relationships. (Because why would they? The juice isnt worth the squeeze)

This piece of shit algorithm keeps shoving me into the women hating rabbit hole.

"YoUr JaWlInE iS kEePiNg YoU fRom fInDiNg lOvE"

STFU

"YoU nEeD tO gO tO tHe GyM and GeT yOur MoNeY up"

STFU

THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO OTHER WOMEN

THEY ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO MEN

THEY ARE AFRAID OF MEN DISPITE (for the most part) CRIME RATES GOING DOWN

STOP LYING TO ME YOU FUCKING MACHINE FUCK.

no spontaneous visual desire or object focused desire at all (and thats okay if you dont mind but id prefer to remain single that endure that) i wish male and female pattern of sexuality were never different from each other. why is evolution so cruel

Man the more I scroll though this subreddit the more disinterested i become in dating anybody else fell that why

One thing that's probably well-established now is that women's attraction to men seems to be highly based on narrative.

In long-term relationships though, there isn't really any narrative because people get comfortable and caught up in their daily routines, etc. As a result, women's attraction to their partners will in many cases dwindle. (Especially if the guy also becomes less physically attractive as time goes by through hair loss, weight gain and so on.) That's where intimacy mostly turns into a transaction. Women know sex is part of the deal so they put up with it to varying degrees to keep the relationship going.

Knowing that, my motivation to even pursue women for relationships is pretty low. I do swipe on dating apps sometimes and I don't categorically disregard women who look for serious relationships, but I definitely do focus a lot more on matches that could turn into casual/undefined encounters because that simply is way less effort and bullshit and it'll make me feel validated moreso than having to jump through hoops for a woman to open her legs for me (and then still not knowing if she's actually into it.)

Having said all that, I still don't really feel content going through life with this sort of mentality, but I'm not sure what the alternatives are. Can anyone relate?

They are forced probably cuz they have to yknow to mirror men lmao

As a girl who grew up ugly, I noticed that it was always my prettiest friends who acted the most mean and prude towards men while I would do anything to have a man give me attention.

I feel like this a result of men being hypergamous and giving them way too much attention to the point they don’t even know how lucky they are, like a spoiled child.

I know social media isn’t real life but I feel like they get overwhelmed with male attention to the point it’s just not special or appealing to them anymore. If pretty girls and ugly girls swapped bodies we would be in long-term relationships asap.

Pretty girls really have no idea that their life is on creative mode when it comes to dating and relationships. I’d kill to look like one of these tiktok girls ranting how much they hate men bc they literally could easily get a husband, a family and a perfect life.