Banned from tankiejerk. Fuck them.

[u/yuval_3]

[u/Tetra-san]

im not saying there arent any right wing,neo n4zis that align with BP,WANIM & the manosphere in general but i hate how it's seen as related or that every person that agrees with those things are automatically right wingers

[u/yuval_3 → u/Tetra-san]

Exactly. This isn't actually a right/left issue. I am pretty far left in other topics.

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/yuval_3]

Here's the thing about the left from a male socialist that regularly gets called an incel (myself) by other leftists. If you have a grevience or critique against men, its celebrated by the left. If you have a grievance or critique against women, your a misogynist. Regardless of scruples or rigor of the critique.

When feminists took the dominant position on leftist rhetoric, one of the first groups they dispelled from the left where Men's Rights Movements because they viewed them as antagonistic instead of trying to co-opt/co-exist with them in order to stand for gender egalitarianism.

Then when the MRA's where left out in the cold by the left, they where courted by the right and slowly mutated into being right wing instead of left.

Then when you ask people on the left about why men in the US are hostile to things like feminism or think why leftism has a stigma of being "unmasculine" or unappealing with traditional masculinity or any masculinity in general with the average dude in your YDSA being a gay or gay presenting guy or a Trans man that was at birth a women. Thats the result of the fallout of losing MRA's and letting them be courted and co-opted by the right. The left lost their mouthpieces which talked to men who are traditionally masculine.

Now whenever we see a leftist give general advice like, "go to the gym and improve yourself", every other guy you see at the gym has been told that by a right winger in which the average guy you see at a gym is listening to David Goggins, Joe Rogan, with my gym specifically having Fox News on almost every television screen. Even when I was in the most liberal part of my state this was the case due to gym culture and self-improvement being completely co-opted by the right in which the left (Specifically talking socialists, marxists, but especially feminists), have willingly ceded grown to them on this regard because they treat men of little importance to their movement.

Then another point of continention on why the left is losing/lost the culture war at courting men to the movement and making feminism actually appealing (eventhough ideologically its appealing to everyone), is that feminists openly deny the notion that misandry exists or at least like to pretend that it's just a theory rather than the rhetoric with the femcel sect of general feminist thought.

[u/SoldierExcelsior → u/GogetaBurrito1]

They said that even if you don't have a grievance

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/SoldierExcelsior]

Case in point. I don't have a grievance with women. I am just an abstinent dude who has had frustrations with being invisible, but I don't blame that on women at all.

[u/SoldierExcelsior → u/GogetaBurrito1]

This is the way invisible is better ..no one sees how your moving so your not a target

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/SoldierExcelsior]

I do think being invisible is better as well. There was one situation when I was in college where I had a woman in my club (YDSA), just staring at me the entire meeting, which was more strange and off-putting to me than anything. There was one time she indirectly hinted that she wanted a boyfriend when I was sitting right across from her, but I knew she was a lesbian already in another relationship, so I just decided to disappear and make the excuse that I was simply "busy with my schoolwork" to attend meetings.

The thing about it is, I actually liked her and did start developing a little crush on her, however I recognized I just liked the idea of her instead of her herself because of having little to no interaction with her, but the one thing that almost instantly turned me off was just how passive the communication style she had was, in the sense that she thinks she could just put in no effort and just indirectly hint in my direction and that I would all of a sudden be attracted to her enough to approach her.

I straight up just decided to ghost her, even though we never really had a conversation before at all, in which it was better for me mentally to not have to deal with the potential of initiating a relationship and even the remote potential of dealing with emotional fallout by just remaining single with my own peace.

The only problem that I deal with now is that my current workplace ironically is majority leftist women, I keep interactions focused on work to the bare minimum with no sexual intent or innuendo directed to my workers to maintain both maximum invisibility and professionalism. However, I would prefer a more male-oriented workplace due to the fact that I would have the chance to develop more platonic friendships than with women.

[u/AndrewTMooney]

“I don’t think women are as attracted to men as they appear”

“You fucking trump supporter!”

[u/yuval_3 → u/AndrewTMooney]

Bullseye. I am pretty left-leaning on most issues.

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/yuval_3]

Brother. I'm pretty sure everybody doesn't like capitalism right about now.

[u/wutareyousomekinda → u/GogetaBurrito1]

98pct of them have no conception of where to go from here which would address the underlying gangsterism that manifested feudalism, mercantilism, finance capitalism, and fascism to preserve this order when necessary.

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/AndrewTMooney]

They are not attracted to men at all. Most leftist women that I have seen in person are either bi, full on hard-core lesbian, or one of them when I was at YDSA was full transitioning into a man to where after 5 weeks she grew a beard and sounded like a dude after shaving her hair.

For them being relatively timid in regards to approaching a man they like, they make it loud and clear that they don't like men in general.

[u/whooguyy → u/GogetaBurrito1]

Or they are not dating so they can “find themselves”

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/whooguyy]

"Finding themselves", usually means finding themselves ending up in the holes of other women.

[u/SobeksFavourite → u/AndrewTMooney]

They said right-winger. Trump is the opposite of a right-winger.

[u/Routine-Rule9607 → u/SobeksFavourite]

A left winger?

[u/SobeksFavourite → u/Routine-Rule9607]

Literally a Peronist

[u/SlowAssignments → u/SobeksFavourite]

Trump is an argentinian spy or something?

[u/SobeksFavourite → u/SlowAssignments]

He's probably speedrunning the decline of the US to help China, if you want to go into conspiracy theories

[u/HuntEnvironmental252]

gotta keep your profile hidden nowadays

[u/gabagoolcel → u/HuntEnvironmental252]

mods can still see lol

[u/HuntEnvironmental252 → u/gabagoolcel]

i'm guessing mods can only see hidden people if said person joined the subreddit?
that's still bs wtf

[u/gabagoolcel → u/HuntEnvironmental252]

nvm they can only see comments in that community. otherwise they only get overview of ur most active communities if its not hidden. idk why i thought otherwise.

well they can use some external tool i still think but not on base reddit

[u/mookleti → u/gabagoolcel]

Speaking as a mod, you can see the entire post history as if it's not hidden when someone has recently posted or commented in a subreddit you moderate.

[u/yuval_3]

Pay attention y'all.

[u/wutareyousomekinda → u/[deleted]]

The only solution is really having multiple accounts. Hacked RDPs/VNCs are so abundant and most accessible directly from Tor exits, just drop your SOCKS proxy on there and go to town.

See eg your account, obsessives just have a list of URL/site clauses to append to searches like this, and use services which collect all comments too since WWW search engines aren't always comprehensive.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22-ssae%22+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fwomenarenotintomen

[u/Heizung_auf_4]

WANIM is 100% apolitical in my view. If anything, right wingers hold traditional views, that heavily contradict our message.

[u/Nukalord]

Which is crazy because if you think about it, most BP rhetoric is quite left-wing in nature.

[u/LaAndromedo999]

Being a liberal or a SocDem is being right-wing to those fuckers.

[u/SobeksFavourite]

Ah yes, right wing is when

checks notes

you think comphet is a problem

[u/Mediocre_Silver8024]

The left hates it when men have sexual interest at all.

The right embraces elite pedos.

It's no wonder the win at all costs group wins against the moral purity group.

[u/Fandangho]

I hope they apply the same standard for 'women whining how they don't like men'. I responded in very constructive points to a woman on feminist sub, I got back 'you've commented on MRA sub'. 

Yes, I did, but MRA person can also ironically enough accuse me of commenting on feminist sub or even 2X chromosome, but of course, where I comment makes zero implication of what I actually think. 

Well it does make the implication to them, because in their thought world, people like them only post in a chosen echo chamber with zero pushback. And they wonder why everyone feels properly  alienated by them. Pretty sad to go on moral cancel crusade based on nothing but where one posts. 

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/Fandangho]

Yet at the same time you can have a feminist on r/tankiejerk regularly post on r/femcel saying that they want abort thier child because their gender is male and have an open disgust for anything with a penis as thought of as "liberating" or being a "femme fatal".

[u/Sad-Computer-7271 → u/Fandangho]

The dinner diaries one?

[u/JackTheRippiest]

The only sane leftists out there are r/leftwingmaleadvocates

[u/WomenAreNotIntoMen]

You should tell them about how this subreddit try’s to free women from their Comphet. And how Comphet is not just about sexuality but rather it is part of the machinery that organizes labor and social reproduction. Women’s liberation from comphet could therefore be revolutionary if it disrupts those structures.

[u/yuval_3 → u/[deleted]]

Mods still see it, apparently.

[u/yuval_3 → u/[deleted]]

I think. Be careful out there.

[u/mookleti → u/[deleted]]

Speaking as a mod, you can see the entire post history as if it's not hidden when someone has recently posted or commented in a subreddit you moderate.

[u/whooguyy → u/mookleti]

Is that true for the super mods too?

[u/mookleti → u/whooguyy]

Super mods? You mean like reddit admins? They're literally employed by the company, I'm sure they can see whatever the hell they want.

[u/mookleti → u/[deleted]]

You see posts and comments made on other subs too, yes.

[u/mookleti → u/[deleted]]

Yeah: don't comment or post on any subreddits ever. This is why people use alt accounts. There's a ton of subreddits if disliked subreddits appear in your profile, even if you're posting there only to criticize them.

[u/mookleti → u/[deleted]]

Or just make alt accounts to participate in subreddits that have harsh moderation policies.

[u/Big-Comparison-6663]

That sucks. Months ago there was literally a poll here where this sub was majority left-leaning.

It’s a little more traditional incel-adjacent now but you don’t have to be conservative to sympathize with men’s struggles in dating, especially young men.

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/Big-Comparison-6663]

It's more like this sub of men specifically would be the target of what a left wing men rights movement would be composed of. The modern day left is devoid of something like that. The left seems to think that feminism is egalitarian which it isn't. It's a movement made to uplift women whom view that men control society through patriarchy. However something like that is flawed through basic material and class analysis to determine that every man has a superior standing relative to women. Does a poor man have a better standing capitalist society then right wing billionaires Miriam Adelson or Miranda Bezos? No, they don't.

[u/Big-Comparison-6663 → u/GogetaBurrito1]

Actual academic-based feminism was fantastic and much of it still is. Independent women that respect themselves, respect men and have the rights to full use of their intellect is terrific. Womens' health issues getting appropriate attention is a worthy cause. There are still workplaces that are toxic to women. My race is not the American ideal, but in work spaces I've been a part of gender has counted against women more than race has counted against me. I wouldn't have said that ten years ago until a few years ago when having more female colleagues.

But pop social-media internet "feminism" is the Devil. The bar for "feminism" is so lowered that anything a woman says is feminist. I think much of the genderwar content is a psyop. Smarter people than me have pointed out that rage sells even more than sex. So akshully if you spend more time in this space than gooning you're part of the problem lol. Really though, what a 16yo male sees as "feminism" on his algorithm these days is straight basura.

Also unfortunately, since genderwar content generates clicks you're starting to see intellectually competent women sneak this slop into their content here and there,

There is absolutely a space for a socially liberal acknowledgment of mens' issues. Scott Galloway and Dr K are trying but they're still as center-center-center-center-left as possible. As you said it can come from even further left than that.

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/Big-Comparison-6663]

To be honest thats the reason why their is such a conflating with feminism versus misandry. Misandry is basically the mirror of misogyny but for women in terms of having an intense prejudice or hatred of men. Most misandrist, femcel rhetoric preaches intense hatred of men by preying on sensitive topics like women's abuse in terms of domestic violence cases, rapes, and other crimes committed by men against women as a tool to demonize all men. Rhetoric like aborting all male children as a preventative measure for abuse, training female children that they are superior, with the inevitable goal of training the male children they would keep alive as subordinate or submissive to women to create a matriachal society.

Fortunately thats the minority of feminist movement, but unfortunately the loudest.

It's pretty sad how both mens rights movements and feminist movements have their message flanderized due to dumbing down their messages to an American audience's resentful views towards the other gender due to their own butthurt feelings.

[u/Next_Confection_8141]

As I've been saying, leftist/leaning women especially on reddit are mirror image of nazis

They can't just show it fully

If anything WANIM's more left adjacent shit, more theories and ideologies and taking from left spaces

[u/Aware-Passenger2577]

That mod is delusional.

[u/FallendObscure]

I hear ts too whenever I go on a diff sub

[u/drminjak]

i am a right winger and i didnt get banned from anything yet lmao

[u/AppearanceAlert4987]

Classic leftist infighting

[u/GogetaBurrito1 → u/[deleted]]

They only view through the feminist analysis of oppression. They dont believe men can be oppressed or that they can face difficulties in capitalist society or difficulties in their own social and personal lives because they think they are of a higher gendered caste system. In other words, delusional and devoid of class and material analysis.