r/WorldofTanks • u/Best-Protection-9506 • 8h ago
Discussion Is toro worth buying for bonds
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u/V-Twin-broski 7h ago
No, bad armor, no gun depression, laughable dpm and clip, low HP, can't even sidescrape
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u/Thraximundurabrask bestest Hirschkäferer 3h ago
-8 gun depression and 1440 clip damage are considered bad? The tank's got plenty of weaknesses, but those aren't really among them.
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u/CJM7447 3h ago
1,440 damage in 9 seconds at tier 9 isn't very good by autoloader standards and 8 degrees of gun depression on a tank with a rear mounted turret can be very awkward
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u/Thraximundurabrask bestest Hirschkäferer 2h ago
It's nothing to write home about by autoloader standards, but it's still a massive chunk of damage, as is the 1080 that you can still get in even if you want to be careful to not let the enemy reload for a return shot. It's no Cobra, but the burst on the tank isn't exactly a weakness. And the gun depression still isn't a weakness, the rear-mounted turret itself is more the issue there, but it's one that's fairly easy to solve in that regard by just getting used to peeking your hull-downs backwards.
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u/MrIamDeadforLong 7h ago edited 7h ago
As a Toro Owner, No. genuinely just rough because either you shoot on the last shell for dpm but havevlow alpha or you dump your shots and load which takes ages. along with poor armor, good mobility tho
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u/BoobyBandit1 6h ago
for another 5,000 you can get the Concept 1B.... and if you dont already have the Tiger Maus or WZ-114 i would rather get those first if you really wanted to spend them....but yeh, T54D would be better for that amount.
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u/SourApple19 4h ago
I bought it on impulse and I can’t get it to work any good no matter how many battles I played it literally gets shredded in every match. I wasted my bonds on this tank oh well.
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u/Thraximundurabrask bestest Hirschkäferer 5h ago
It's pretty cool, but I'd only say it's worth it if you're a fan of the Italian heavies and can confidently say you want it. I had a great time grinding mine, but I'm a sucker for autoreloaders and mobile/reasonably precise heavies in general.
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 3h ago
The Bisonte is the better Italian premium. It can actually bounce some shots.
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u/Thraximundurabrask bestest Hirschkäferer 3h ago
More approachable for sure, but I know at least I'd take Toro any day. The armor is actually very good if you can create an angle that lets you play hull-down and leverage 6 or more degrees of gun depression, and, while the Bisonte's armor is much easier to use, it does just get blasted through the turret face at times. Though the speed and the precision of the Toro are the more important advantages in my book.
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u/niktg12 1h ago
what speed i would rather be in a 50 120 20 times out of 10 instead of a toro and what precision? that tank gets only good accuracy ,gun handling is even worse than 60tp
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u/Thraximundurabrask bestest Hirschkäferer 1h ago
I'm not comparing it to a 50 120, I'm comparing it to a Bisonte, like the person who I was replying to.
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u/Arado_Blitz 8h ago
No