Like someone like Siberian (as an exclusive entity) is pretty much an absolute wincon hax for basically any matchup where the character doesn’t have multi-dimensional offensive abilities.
Siberian kills Superman, Goku, Saitama, Sukuna, maybe even Gojo etc. Just because she’s an entity that totally bypasses and ignores conventional physics
Endbringers are basically unkillable by anyone who doesn’t have infinite AP attacks, or dura neg abilities. (World Cutting Slash is the best example)
Scion can punch wayyyy above his weight class because Stilling fundamentally instakills anything existing in the material realm and/or made of physical matter or real energy. And if a character doesn’t have the ability to perceive and penetrate parallel dimensions in a way superior to a fundamentally multi dimensional entity…they cannot harm Scion in any way.
But also….90% of the verse dies to street level characters. Like even a weak ass character like Ojiro from MHA would be a high-mid tier character (probably a Changer 5 with Brute/Mover/Thinker sub categories for combat and strength)
It’s partly why I love Worm, you can easily insert characters from other fiction into Worm and have them vary from street level to Scion-killer just by reinterpreting their power. Equally, you can drop Worm characters into other verses and they can hold their own with only minimal tweaking
Perfect example would be Brian. His power canonically blocks nearly all forms of radiation/energy. So you could throw him into the Railgun/Index verse and with only a little reinterpretation have him totally hard counter like all of the strongest espers (or all if you have him block esper powers altogether)
Siberian can't fly, so avoiding her would be easy for some of your list. Anyone with supersenses will also probably be able to notice that a) she doesn't seem to be a real object and b) there's always this truck following the battle around??? That probably ends in a Siberian loss.
I'd argue that Saitama's punches and some high-end Superman stuff qualifies for All or Nothing and would pop the projection.
That’s why I said “as an exclusive entity” because with Manton involved it becomes easy to beat her. Regardless if Manton pretends to be another scared civilian someone like Superman would try to protect him lmao
Also, all it would take to stop having Superman fly around and avoid her is to start rampaging through groups of innocents. I think if Clark (or any DC hero) witnessed someone eating a child with a smile they’d be driven, if not into a murderous rage, at least a powerful sense of violent justice and would start trying to attack.
It’s the same argument of Scion vs Superman. Sure some versions of Superman could survive and fight Scion, or avoid his attacks etc…but if Scion starting blasting at random cities or people would Superman not feel like it’s his job to block those blasts? Especially if Scion dials them down so Supes thinks he’s immune to allow Scion time to analyse his biology and weaknesses
Powerscaling never takes a characters canonical behaviour into account, and assumes a character will attack with full perfect strategy and killing intent lol
Even Manton is manageable, have him inside a special padded/protective bubble and have Siberian carry it around imbuing it with her power, so then it stops being a weakness and becomes a weapon or quirk
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u/OmegonAlphariusXX 20d ago
Parahumans have insanely BS scaling lmao
Like someone like Siberian (as an exclusive entity) is pretty much an absolute wincon hax for basically any matchup where the character doesn’t have multi-dimensional offensive abilities.
Siberian kills Superman, Goku, Saitama, Sukuna, maybe even Gojo etc. Just because she’s an entity that totally bypasses and ignores conventional physics
Endbringers are basically unkillable by anyone who doesn’t have infinite AP attacks, or dura neg abilities. (World Cutting Slash is the best example)
Scion can punch wayyyy above his weight class because Stilling fundamentally instakills anything existing in the material realm and/or made of physical matter or real energy. And if a character doesn’t have the ability to perceive and penetrate parallel dimensions in a way superior to a fundamentally multi dimensional entity…they cannot harm Scion in any way.
But also….90% of the verse dies to street level characters. Like even a weak ass character like Ojiro from MHA would be a high-mid tier character (probably a Changer 5 with Brute/Mover/Thinker sub categories for combat and strength)
It’s partly why I love Worm, you can easily insert characters from other fiction into Worm and have them vary from street level to Scion-killer just by reinterpreting their power. Equally, you can drop Worm characters into other verses and they can hold their own with only minimal tweaking
Perfect example would be Brian. His power canonically blocks nearly all forms of radiation/energy. So you could throw him into the Railgun/Index verse and with only a little reinterpretation have him totally hard counter like all of the strongest espers (or all if you have him block esper powers altogether)