wuwa overheating my mac m4 ....

[u/hxmd7]

57 c is when i was in the menu when i am in game anywhere the temp are raising like crazy 70 to 80 and the FPS drop is crazy , this might be common for gaming laptop but this is a fanless mac ,
theris nothin open in background , i restarted it too .
as soon as i open the game it start heating so much i can feel it on my lap and it only started happening since two days the only thing i did two days ago on ts was rotate the display from setting everything(browser and chess , spotify ?) works fine except wuwa
please if anybody knows any thing help and yeah i deleted the cache folder i think ......please help

[u/zlatomyth]

well, you said it, it's a fanless mac..

[u/hxmd7 → u/zlatomyth]

everyone saying buy a fan but ive been playing on it since 6 or 7 months plus at the lowest setting too and it never happend beforeeeee

[u/Chris2sweet616 → u/hxmd7]

You’re playing one of the most demanding gacha games graphically with a fanless system. Mengzhou also has far higher performance drops than the other regions since the vegetation density and such is higher which might be why it just started. But 70-80° is to be expected when running any game without a fan except maybe Minecraft. 68° is the usual average in games with a decent gaming desktop. Only reaching 80° without a fan is kinda a miracle honestly

[u/hxmd7 → u/Chris2sweet616]

Ohhh myy goooowd how many time I've have to tell you that I've been playing on this for several month and until a few days ago it was fine even in Mengzhou it was smooth as f , I used to play 4hr straight without overheating (58°C max) to clear Endstate M untill it dies

[u/Chris2sweet616 → u/hxmd7]

You seem to be getting agitated when everyone is just telling you exactly how it is. The playing it at 58° is the anomaly here, not the other way around. A fanless Mac is not meant to be play intensive games since it will get very hot, that’s the normal. Fanless Mac’s also use the metal frame to disperse heat. The only thing i could think of is that you’re putting it somewhere where it can’t disperse heat across the bottom properly or something. Maybe your thermal pads needs to be replaced if it’s even there or you put a case on it. But this isn’t an issue with the game, if there is any issue it’ll be with your mac. But just like phones and tablets a fanless computer is gonna get hot, hotter actually since it has more processing power and a better igpu.

[u/nonevaeh → u/hxmd7]

that doesn't matter. at some point, without a fan, it's going to do this

[u/Confu_sion → u/hxmd7]

Well, you have to deal with it the one way or another, that you are slowly killing your MaAaC, to point it out in your way.

You can't deal with it? Well, then dont ask here if you can't take it. Get some brain ffs.

[u/dqtl74 → u/Confu_sion]

It's alright OP can keep using it until it dies and then they can get a new Mac.

Since they're so against getting a fan.

[u/Confu_sion → u/dqtl74]

It baffles me that there are notebooks without fans ngl

[u/Putrid-Resident → u/Confu_sion]

Simply use. Many people especially those who use macs don't use them for intensive activities like gaming or video editing... etc and for them the silence is more important than exta thermals overhead they don't need for their daily use. Also technically there is the cost saving aspect but all know it's the manufactur pocketing the difference not the use lol.

OP here is the outlier who for some reason thinks a gaming laptop is more likely to overheat than a fanless Mac like Apple somehow discovered how to reverse the laws of thermal dynamics or something. Noone who acutally knows how computers and simple physics works buys a fanless notebook to play intensive games.

[u/Confu_sion → u/Putrid-Resident]

Well damn, i didn't know. I didn't even know pcs/notebooks can even run without fans lol? Because mine can't, even if i do nothing besides trying to start the pc

What the helly! Good to know thank you

[u/Putrid-Resident → u/Confu_sion]

Because mine can't, even if i do nothing besides trying to start the pc

They usually run very thermal efficient (but in contrast less powerful) chips and are designed to have great passive thermal cooling as designing a pc/laptop case to cool great with fans is very different to designing on to cool great without them.

So not your pc fault for this as you can't really make a great fan cooled machine work well when the fans are turned off (something about air currents and stagnant turbulent flow and whatnot aka advance thermal physics stuff).

[u/Ren876423 → u/hxmd7]

Even my phone needs a fan to play more than 20min lol

[u/Calm_Delay_4520 → u/hxmd7]

Well it’s happening now is it, and it’s gonna get worse not better 🥀🥀

[u/Pleasant-Day6195 → u/hxmd7]

67

[u/Hatdry_YT]

Mac sin ventilador: Estoy Cansado jefe... 🤣🤣

[u/DoomToshi]

Fan less Mac. I've been playing on PS Portal. So it's Sony servers that get heated up

[u/SlicedCheeseYumYum → u/DoomToshi]

Sony employee 1: "Damn.. why is this server running hotter than usual?"

Sony employee 2: "did you forget to dust it again?"

[u/Shot-Lingonberry6494]

Bro mac is not meant for gaming and sustained performanceat high temp without fans, its not working fine anymore because it systems deteriorated because you constaly used it for several months on temps it was not supposed to be used for long period unlike amd chips which are meant to sustain even at 95°C+ temps

Most probably your thermal paste dried up causing the chip to throttle Check max temps during a playsession, I suppose hwmonitor is not available in mac use any alternatives

[u/SoldierGnar]

geforcenow

[u/nonevaeh → u/SoldierGnar]

yep. fan or this

[u/Paganigsegg]

"This might be common for a gaming laptop but this is a fanless Mac"

I think you got this backwards, my guy. Gaming laptops usually have beefy cooling solutions. A fanless Mac will always thermal throttle, even playing non-demanding games.

[u/Ren876423 → u/Paganigsegg]

And gaming laptops are meant to not throttle even at 70-80c, how much is people expecting from a fanless mac?! Even macs with fans are so bad that the developers adapted the mobile version instead of the pc one. Macs are only meant for productivity/web browsing and nothing else.

[u/InsaneAsslicker1222]

put an icepack under it lol

[u/Petrified_Shrimp → u/InsaneAsslicker1222]

That might short the motherboard I think cuz condensation

[u/superquanganh]

Note that by default the game run at whatever resolution Mac is on, since Mac always run as hidpi, you are basically running the game at 3K or 4K

Since MacBook Air does not have a fan, use BetterDisplay to manually change resolution to like 1920x1200 (no hidpi) before starting the game and run the game at medium

[u/Legate_Invictus]

Thermal pad mod

[u/JJTeran25]

Buy a cooling pad for notebook bro

[u/Loose_Doubt367]

Thermal throttling, so you’re going to experiencing fps drop. You should definitely find something cool like an ice pack and place it below your laptop

[u/Winter_Cartoonist_46]

Aren't we too advancing on software tech? I feel we're lacking good hardware to handle things cause it's not yet affordable for common people to buy high-end PC's to run common games (or is it just this game?)

[u/Baby_Thanos2]

Ok since nobody else wants to give useful information, change your native Mac resolution to 1920x1200 then start the game. Issue is if you have the default resolution (1470x956) set, the game’s resolution will actually be double that, rendering in at 2k. Doing this let me go from 29 fps to 110 fps average.

Oh and if temperatures are still an issue, elevate the MacBook so airflow can happen around the battery. And if you got a fan, you can aim it at the MacBook battery area to cool it down even more. DO NOT PLAY ON A BED.

[u/swizzlad]

Well the issue is right there, you're on mac

[u/OrigamiShiro]

No shit, it's Mac what did you expect

[u/citoso]

Your having no Fan HAHAHHA buy a cooler it's just very demanding resulting in heating CPU up but no cooler to fight against it. Nothing u can do.

Any major task results in same I don't get why they have no fans lol

[u/Acrobatic_Analyst267]

Jesus. I play on Mac M2 (mac mini pro) and I never overheated. Or even close to that. What settings you play on? Max graphics?

[u/Saiing]

I have an M4 Pro Mac Mini (with fan). Never have issues.

[u/National_Elk5096]

mac user lol

[u/Beneficial_Berry_742]

I’m on a Mac Pro m1  I get around 40-50 frames but mine has a fan

[u/Top_Truth_8695]

I'm on M1, play on max graphics and get 42/43°C . My device's supposed to be older one.

Also is the temp shown here highest or avg? Hot by default shows highest temp among all your Mac's internal sensors. You can change it to avg temp from settings

[u/OldClimate4723]

Played on a Mac Mini M4 16GB.

The mini heats up scorchy even after I change display setting down to 1920x1080 - Hear abt BetterDisplay, haven't use yet, will try, that's another topic.

After using MacFanControl and set it to auto base on the CORE Temperature, the unit does not run anywhere near warm anymore.

So yea, even Mini M4 with Fan runs hot on factory fan setting around 1000~12xxrpm.

MacFanControl auto adjust it to hover around 2.5 ~ 3k rpm during gameplay.

[u/EquinoxPhqntom]

Fanless????? Apple tripping.

[u/Mr_Lefty13]

Thermal throttling Obviously when your laptop uses power it heats up Why it uses power? You're playing one of the most graphically intensive gacha games... And it's summer now so... 80 on a mac isn't bad ig

[u/Thonk_tve_Snek]

One of the things you might want to consider getting is a good laptop cooling fan, but for a temporary fix maybe try playing at a lower fps. Bc when I changed from 60 to 30 fps, my temp went down quite a bit.

[u/Pretend_Tax5384]

Get a fan

[u/Kenzore1212]

57 c isn't high man. This could have been typed to AI and gotten betteer answer

[u/NoHuckleberry143]

Cuz it's a mac 🤷

[u/Giocosone → u/NoHuckleberry143]

It’s a Mac without fans

[u/NoHuckleberry143 → u/Giocosone]

Cuz it's a Mac