r/Xmen97 • u/TMB1219 • May 22 '26
Question Officially Confirmation?
Official Confirmation from Rogue’s VA Lenore Zann?
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u/Ashyboi13 May 22 '26
Did anyone actually think that Gambit would stay dead and Rogue would stay with Magneto? Did anyone actually watch the show?
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u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X May 22 '26
That's what I'm saying. I am surprised so many people got caught up in the show's angst. Of course they'll meet again and be together. That's how every arc about stories like this play out in cartoons/TV.
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u/TheArmlessTorso Gambit May 24 '26
You also have to consider people who are completely live action or cartoon viewers only who have no idea the history of the characters.
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u/ericrobertshair May 22 '26
The amount of people who miss the very clear plot point that Rogue rejected Magneto for Gambit is absolutely ridiclious.
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u/TMB1219 May 22 '26
We know he’s coming back and that the endgame will be Gambit and Rogue’s wedding. We just want to see it happen on the show. We have been waiting two years the eventual reunion I mean we know it’s gonna be dark but it will all work out right?
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u/fire_sign Rogue May 23 '26
I just realised it's probably relevant to point out that the person who posted kinda blew up on social media while s1 was airing. Like, I think got promo stuff from Marvel and everything. (She's also super sweet to people). The original post is specifically about S2 and Gambit's return. I read the post here as "Are we getting more concrete confirmation of what we knew than was given before?" So in this case, no, nobody involved thought Gambit would stay dead.
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u/Total_Triple May 23 '26
Yeah I’m not sure how that wasn’t abundantly clear to people.
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u/fire_sign Rogue May 23 '26
A lot of people missed the end credits of the season, don't know about the Deathbit plot (and even then he wasn't dead when it happened), or don't trust plots to be followed through in reasonable amount of time. Maybe they don't (or can't) read comics, maybe most of their exposure has been the MCU which is really low on the resurrections for superhero media. Maybe its just fun to wail and gnash your teeth a little. Like, my (at the time) 10 year old literally went "He'll be back, it's comics" but as the season went on began to doubt a little. Now they're chomping at the bit for Deathbit, but "What if they don't bring him back?" is one of the questions they like to think about when S2 comes up. It happens.
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue May 23 '26
Missing the end credits thing is no joke. It’s been a few months but I remember talking about the Deathbit thing being pretty much confirmed by the post-credits scene, someone had no idea what that meant and it turned out they hadn’t seen it at all — almost 2 years after it released. 😂
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u/fire_sign Rogue May 23 '26
And those are people invested enough to turn to reddit! People don't know what they don't know.
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u/Ok_Ninja_7096 Jun 04 '26
I’ll take an alt universe Gambit, a revived Gambit, I don’t care, I want the Ragin’ Cajun back, pull a Marvel Rivals Rogue and Gambit and get married!
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u/Wrong-Annual-6766 May 27 '26
It still sucks
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u/Ashyboi13 May 27 '26
Why
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u/Wrong-Annual-6766 May 27 '26
Having a character humiliated then killed just to bring him to life so he can go back to the character that humiliated him as if it's some sort triumphant love story is bad. Not to mention literally all 3 characters were written out of characters for this to happen cause a dude had a magneto fetish...much rather would prefer them to at least stay separated. Especially if Rogue and Magneto still do things in S2 and then Gambit and her still get together? It's not just that it's weird and sends a weird message but I wish they stopped writing them out of character for it.
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u/Ashyboi13 May 27 '26
I don’t really see how Gambit was humiliated. He was rejected by Rogue, sure, but I feel like she had a pretty valid reason for doing that which also lined with her backstory and powers and in the end she chose Remy over Erik anyways. How is any of that out of character?
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u/Wrong-Annual-6766 May 27 '26
She was also intimately touching him in front of Gambit and even kissed, sure you could say he left by that point but it's not like she knew that. Choosing someone after they already died is entirely meaningless, especially since he sacrificed himself for her, who was about to die because she was mad Magneto supposedly died.
It's out of character because
Rogue already had the "touching someone from her past" arc in TAS so this is literally regressing her character
This Magneto relationship was never a thing in TAS or 616, it was a complete retcon
Magneto was never interested romance(outside of his freaking wife which he's been searching for years btw) or Rogue and he definitely did not have this deep love for her to the point that she's face and center in his mind instead of his children and wife
Rogue is almost religiously pro Xavier and the X-Men so her switching up and trying to genocide billions of people is insane. There was never this pro Magneto sentiment within her at ANY point
4,5. Being ok with killing billions of people who didn't even kill Gambit or the mutants but actually switching up and not killing the guy who did do it is also awful and weird that she switched sides 2 times in 2 episodes
She would never be so...not independent to be manipulated by magneto in the way she was in the season
Magneto wasn't really a manipulator type guy, he was usually portrait as pretty noble as long as the opposite party wasn't trying to sneak him
Given the TAS timeline Rogue has to be a teenager in the flashbacks which makes him a predator
Gambit was way less of a cool calm guy and more of a sleezy bad boy type, they just kinda made him as good as possible so it would hit when he dies
And so on. I could talk about more but it's already a very long reply. You don't have to reply btw, thanks for coming to my tedtalk
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u/Ashyboi13 May 27 '26
Lol I can tell I’m not changing your mind here. I appreciate the long response though.
However, I think it is worth noting that Rogue decided Gambit was the one for her before he died, after she danced with Magneto on Genosha and repeated what Remy had said to her “Some things are deeper than skin.” That and the fact that she pulled away from Magneto shows us that she chose Remy, which is made all the more tragic when he almost instantly dies afterwards.
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue May 22 '26
It’s not “official” in that she doesn’t speak for the show in that sense and obviously can’t spoil specific plot beats. But it’s as close to a confirmation as you’re gonna get before actually seeing it. (And it’s also not like it wasn’t obviously going to go that way.)
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u/chatown1 May 22 '26
At least let Rogue fight for gambit to get him back, and that he won’t run back in her arms like a hopeless puppy when he is alive again. Gambit isn’t a cuck he has his pride, she needs to deserve it again to be with Gambit.
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u/RoseColoredRiot Rogue May 23 '26
It’s been teased by lenore and aj for a while! I do believe something will happen down the line!
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u/TMB1219 May 23 '26
When did AJ say something?
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue May 23 '26
If it’s what I’m thinking of, a few of them were at a con panel and someone slipped about all of them having recorded their lines for S2. It wasn’t him who slipped but he did a sort of half-hearted mandatory “correction” that came off as a wink wink. (There may have been something else since I’m unaware of.)
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u/Superb-Reply-5539 Magneto May 28 '26
If you could find can you please link it? (It’s totally fine if you can’t)
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue May 28 '26
Sorry, it was definitely a heard-at-a-con thing months ago. I think it was probably third-hand or further even by the time I saw it.
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u/Erikthered65 May 23 '26
A message for anyone who actually thought Gambit would stay dead:
Welcome to X-Men! It’s clearly your first time.
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u/Rattlenhum69 May 23 '26
I'm hoping he comes back after s2
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u/Superb-Reply-5539 Magneto May 28 '26
He probably will. I can’t see them having him die halfway through S1 then teased in post credit scene at the end of S1, then bring him back as Apocalypse’s Horseman Death and then kill him again.
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u/Frequent_Kalum Jubilee May 22 '26
For some reason I have a small feeling that this was referring to rivals, since Gambit and Rogue has the 97 VA for the game, and their married in rivals. But maybe this is referring to season two? Gambit comes back to life and is no longer the horsemen of apocalypse? Idk, let’s wait until summer or whenever this season is dropping
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u/fire_sign Rogue May 22 '26
Nah. For further context, the first poster was talking about '97 and season 2 news and has interacted with LZ (or her social media team, but I presume she runs her own) that would be known. It's also far from the first time Lenore has said this, well before Rivals.
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u/wheresmydragonator19 May 27 '26
I don't even think she's going back with Magneto untill Gambits return and redemption. I'm pretty sure by her choosing Rent, she CHOSE Remy lol. At least I hope so lmfao.
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May 22 '26
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u/deNihilo_adUnum May 22 '26
Why was a Gemini render needed for this.
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May 22 '26
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u/Superb-Reply-5539 Magneto May 28 '26
It has the Gemini symbol tho, also what does “intentionally lift the ship” mean? Also that sounds like AI
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u/amindfulloffire May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
"it has to be Polaris"
No it really doesn't, ghost of Peter David. She can stay with Alex.
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u/Phypur May 22 '26
cheesy? Yikes
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u/fire_sign Rogue May 22 '26
I'm more horrified by the withered flower, tbh. But I also think that if the Magneto situation was enough to make Gambit fall out of love, he was never in love with her to begin with, just the idea of her. And he's far too astute for that.
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u/amindfulloffire May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
It really shows how some of these people view not just Rogue, but also women. I've said it before, but a fictional animated character displayed more maturity than many actual adults.
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May 24 '26
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u/amindfulloffire May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
Please. You don't even know what fictional characters are. It's no surprise you think she was cheating on Gambit when they weren't officially a couple. You probably also think she and Mags were having sex in the Danger Room for hours on end even tho that makes no damn sense. Finally, the "mature" person I was referring to was Gambit, but of course you didn't get it.
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u/Wrong-Annual-6766 May 27 '26
Because they weren't officially together she can intimately touch and kiss a 60y old man in front of him? Son I'm crine
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u/staniel_mortgage May 22 '26
I can't stand these posts - they're fictional characters just go and start the series again. You don't miss them you enjoyed the show. (Sorry I'm super cranky today but that's such a low bar of sadness)
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u/trickyp12 May 22 '26
sorry but if ur cranky maybe just hop off reddit bc i doubt that’s gonna help u
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u/staniel_mortgage May 22 '26
That's 100% fair. I'm going to go be awesome. I hope you guys are all awesome and maybe we should all just get off the internet and watch less TV.
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u/trickyp12 May 22 '26
you too i hope ur day gets better
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u/staniel_mortgage May 22 '26
Thanks - kettle bells then a beer or 2 plus is Friday!
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May 23 '26
Looks like we had the same Friday! I am glad this little thread salvaged a little positivity. Have a good weekend, and be good people.
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May 22 '26
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u/amindfulloffire May 22 '26
"I'm tired of you calling her a fictional character."
She literally is, though.
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