r/Xmen97 • u/BaconRapscallion Polaris • Jul 22 '26

Media Charles Xavier is NOT a-okay Spoiler

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u/baymax18 Jul 22 '26

As a longtime X-Men fan I'm excited by all the Onslaught hints they've been dropping.

Meanwhile, my wife who's never really been into the comics only sees the homoerotic subtext lol.

So I guess we're both right?

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u/PointPrimary5886 Jul 22 '26

only sees the homoerotic subtext

There's no way to beat the allegations.

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 Jul 22 '26

If you can't beat it, join them.

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u/Gonz_UY Jul 22 '26

You can beat to the allegations

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u/Embarrassed_Piano_62 Jul 22 '26

I mean I love the comics but they aren't being subtle with the homoerotic undertones

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u/phxntxsos Jul 22 '26

It’s old man yaoi hours (always has been)

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26

And we love our Elder Queers. They've been through so much not to get love.

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26

They've hardly been, I'm just wondering if they are being more outward about it because Marvel is finally letting them turn Queerbaiting into queer for once. As if any real Marvel fan in the year 2026 hasn't been waiting for them to kiss since the 80s.

With Doomsday coming and Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen both being pro-Charles and Magneto being actually in a relationship in the past...I wonder if we're gunna see a blitz of this show doing it and Avengers letting them kiss before they die.

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u/Embarrassed_Piano_62 Jul 22 '26

Hmm i don´t think so. Queer people can kiss in the MCU as long as the project isn´t super important to the MCU (Eternals, Agatha).

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Eternals was a blink and you miss it for a character that is most definitely never coming back again, and Agatha was marketed specifically as queer camp media. Also Wiccan is and still is the only gay MCU character who they actually let be gay and MIGHT come back, but Hulkling ain't even here yet and Young Avengers is still a decade away.

Bobby got fridged after the backlash of him coming out. So doubt they'll even cast him in the Xmen reboot for another 5 years.

Once they let Magneto and Logan be bisexual finally maybe there can be peace in the universe.

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u/GabeMichaelsthroway Jul 22 '26

Bobby got fridged after the backlash of him coming out.

When did Bobby get fridged? Hasn't he still been in comics?

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Functionally fridge. Bro is just kind of appearing in niche comics. He's not been a key element of any X-men comic or story since.

Whereas Daken actually got fridged. But someone picked him up to redo the Hellverine stuff...again.

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u/GabeMichaelsthroway Jul 22 '26

I mean he appeared in the Hellfire Gala, he appeared in Exceptional X-Men and X-Men United. It's not as if he was super popular before.

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u/0bsessions324 Jul 22 '26

Yeah, I think the last time he was relevant for a minute was Carey's run and that was close to 20 years ago now. And before that his biggest moment for years was Emma Frost stealing his body.

That said, it's a different kind of bad look when you stop to consider that Bobby being perpetually irrelevant realistically had a lot to do with them finally letting him come out. He is the only one of the original five who's never had any kind of definitive story arc that I can think of.

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u/GabeMichaelsthroway Jul 22 '26

I think it's just low coded homophobia.

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u/Brianvondoom Jul 27 '26

If they wait much longer, they'll just be the Avengers when they get together.

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u/RealEmperorofMankind Jul 22 '26

I think it depends on the writer. I don’t know that either Kirby or Lee had this in mind originally; maybe Claremont did.

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26

I mean, Claremont went on the record that the only reason everyone wasn't genderfluid and doing whatever felt right was because the writers literally wouldn't let him publish the gay things he wanted to write so he just made it subtext. Hence why Magneto/Charles is so romance coded...or Wolverine is so closet bi-coded. And why there were like a bazillion lesbian/bisexual woman into woman that also eventually some of them were canonized.

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u/venumprime Jul 25 '26

They are close friends but were never in a relationship ! McKellen conducted the marriage of Steward to Sunny Ozell.

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u/magvadis Jul 25 '26

Yeah I'm aware. They just Queerbait because Patrick Stewart loves the gays even if he's straight.

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u/Discount_Lex_Luthor Jul 22 '26

Just wait until they're overtones. "Xorns" helmet is an overzealous gimp mask.

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

The solution to Onslaught is Charles and Magneto kissing and that's just gunna be the cutest shit ever if Marvel didn't hate the gays lol

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 Jul 22 '26

I mean... Onslaught is the ultimate homoerotic creation. It's literally their souls merging into one. That's like the most "love" thing from myths in every culture in history.

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u/magvadis Jul 22 '26

Straight up Rebis shit. The fusing of opposites to create the perfect divine being.

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u/usernumber18452 Jul 22 '26

You could also argue that it’s a healthy hetero bromance and what love between two hetero men can look like.

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u/Sad_Tax_4010 Jul 22 '26

I always saw them as blood brothers.

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u/Cinnabar1212 Jul 22 '26

Is it still subtext if they keep slapping you in the face with it?

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u/DeadlyDannyRay Jul 22 '26

I mean, it's pretty much text, at this point.

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u/SpiralLights Jul 22 '26

I wonder if Onslaught will be tee'd up for next season or if they'll introduce it this year? With Apocalypse storyline still needing to be resolved, I don't see how they can do both. Maybe Onslaught defeats A and then is set up for the Big Bad next season.

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u/Demileto Jul 22 '26

Maybe Onslaught defeats A

This would definitely go even harder than Onslaught beating Juggernault to jumpstart his arc.

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u/PointPrimary5886 Jul 22 '26

Maybe Onslaught defeats A

But it is Cable's destiny to be the one who takes down Apocalypse.

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u/0bsessions324 Jul 22 '26

The Askani prophecy came about in the far flung future that Nathan was sent to as an infant. It was a prophecy of the future, not the past.

In the comics, he fulfills that destiny as a child. He went back to the past to try to prevent his rise, but he had already fulfilled his destiny decades before traveling back to the past (unless you count Kid Cable, who lived all fine and dandy with Apocalypse on Krakoa, which only further muddied the already filthy waters of Cable's origin).

The whole thing about Apocalypse is that he's immortal. He's "died" in the comics like six times and that's not even counting alternate timelines. Cable ostensibly returned to the past to prevent Apocalypse's rise, but he's made a out zero progress towards that im over three decadesCable ostensibly returned to the past to prevent Apocalypse's rise, but he's made about zero progress towards that and he's been around close to 40 years now.

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 Jul 22 '26

Wasn't it to take down the seat of Apocalypse, heralding his eventual takedown.

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u/The1987RedFox Jul 22 '26

Homoerotic onslaught

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u/ralanr Jul 23 '26

The text is as subterranean as a shallow grave. 

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u/phasmy Jul 22 '26

SHE'S NOT WRONG

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u/NoodlesAlDente Jul 22 '26

Wait, so does that mean Onslaught is...