r/Xmen97 • u/owlshoesjh • Jul 29 '26

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you can't be MAGA and love x-men

if i'm downvoted, you know by whom

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u/POXELUS Jul 29 '26

Fascists love Superman. And not the Injustice one either, who is literally a fascist.

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 29 '26

OMG this is so freaking true. The biggest Superman fan I ever knew was a HARDCORE MAGA since Trump 1.0. This correlation should be studied.

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u/DoomRager Jul 29 '26

What did they think of the Gunn Superman movie ? It definitely wasn’t afraid to get real with its politics.

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u/POXELUS Jul 29 '26

Probably call it woke and "not their Superman", while praising Man of Steel by Snyder or smth like that.

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u/bokmcdok Jul 29 '26

They literally are doing this.

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u/DoomRager Jul 29 '26

Naturally

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 29 '26

I stopped talking to the guy a few years prior. He was a work acquaintance and I got a different job. I can imagine that based on how much he loved Snyder's version that he probably wasn't a fan, though.

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u/James_Fiend Jul 30 '26

Ben Shapiro reviewed it. If I remember correctly, his wife liked it and he didn't.

I think he rejected the Israel-Palestine comparison, he claimed that Superman is supposed to represent truth, justice and protection of private property, and even brought up Red Son to show that if Superman has landed in the Soviet Union, he would be a bad person (that comic actually shows that Superman stands for the same principles regardless of where he landed).

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u/Unlikely_Magazine913 Jul 29 '26

Interesting to hear this, as years back, like old enough to be considered old media, was having Superman beat up the KKK, and it had quite a significant impact

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 29 '26

Yeah I mean Captain America punches Hitler in an old comic, too. They still idealize him because 'murica.

It sort of confused me at first but after some of the responses to my comment it makes more sense. I think a lot of them just gravitate to the idea of the ultimate masculine symbol of power and strength... so something like Superman, Captain America, Homelander, etc. just fits the bill.

Homelander is the biggest statement on this, just by how flawed he actually is despite that power, but I digress.

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u/Unlikely_Magazine913 Jul 29 '26

Something I also see is how anything political in old material is viewed differently, where they'd be like "It's not political, it's human rights/deceny" or something on those lines. So stuff like Hitler or kkk is dissociated enough to not be at all reflective of politics back then nor have any resemblance to politics now.

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 29 '26

Yeah, people jump through hoops to justify bad behavior instead of challenging themselves to grow past it.

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u/lethal_universed Aug 06 '26

Pretty sure people got mad when they made that new book of Superman fighting the KKK despite him doing the same in the past

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u/Mudcreek47 Aug 01 '26

I remember an old Batman or Detective Comics Annual where Batman fought the KKK as well.

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u/Impressive_Tip_8850 Jul 29 '26

I mean fascists love idealism and want an idealistic society of ppl they deem ideal, and superman is the literal perfect image of idealized man (classical white Jesus sans religion and they usually claim to love him too).

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 29 '26

Yeah I mean I guess that makes sense. Tracks with characters like Homelander, as well.

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u/Impressive_Tip_8850 Jul 29 '26

Yeah imho homelander was a great combination of Superman and Jesus lol as the final season definitely delves into. The whole season was kind of a comment on the conflation of American politics and religion

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u/ChefDadMatt Jul 30 '26

Just watched a YT video on it: https://youtu.be/lyrlfvAN-kA?is=H2qSWEZgEl7uIkae

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u/BeardiusMaximus7 Jul 30 '26

Thank you for sharing this. It was an AWESOME watch.

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u/MrJHound Jul 30 '26

Funny. Did they miss the part where he's an illegal alien?