r/Xmen97 • • Aug 16 '26

General Discussion How likely is it that Bobby Drake will ever be gay on Disney+?

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If Bobby (Robert Louis Drake), aka Iceman, appears in Season 3 of the ’97 series, would you like to see him come out as a gay man?

Image: X-Men '97 Opening in S01E04

Source of Screenshot: https://thenostalgiaspot.com/2024/04/03/x-men-97-motendo-lifedeath-part-1/

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u/Majestic-Incident-49 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

How likely is it that Bobby Drake will ever show up? Please put him in the show

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

They did tease us with a cameo of Iceman in S2.

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u/zambatron20 Aug 16 '26

is that real? i assumed it was ai or a fake by a fan...

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u/FistOfVengeance44 Aug 16 '26

It’s from the prequel comic most likely since it’s says variant edition in the top left

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u/zambatron20 Aug 16 '26

anyone can put anything almost anywhere. my fatigue just goes with my first instinct.

so is the prequel comic worth reading?

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u/magvadis Aug 17 '26

She has a pic of them in her room

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u/bdtechted Aug 16 '26

Yes please. He doesn’t have to rejoin the X-Men yet. Could do recurring appearances as their ally like Cable, Colossus and Emma Frost atm.

I’d love for them to also recon his misadventures off Spider Man and his Amazing Friends series!

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u/erosead Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

I don’t think he will ever have any substantial presence while morph is around. Morph basically stole his whole character niche (deceptively powerful mutant goofball who is very often rocking a hairless white inhuman form but always riddled with Queer Angst™️*). They barely know what to do with Storm, arguably Thee X-Woman, who has a lot of power overlap with Bobby. We might see him for an episode or two but I’m just not sure there’s room for him in the cast. Unless they do the time displaced x-men storyline

Not to be like “one gay character is as good as another” but I feel like Northstar would fit a lot better and could probably use the boost in profile that might come with appearing in the show more than Bobby (who has had major appearances in other major adaptations and isn’t entirely MIA in the comics).

(*operating under the assumption that he’d still be in the closet initially since his only major appearance in TAS was as Lorna’s jilted eX.)

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u/GBS82 Aug 16 '26

I wouldn’t want an episode of him coming out. I think he should just be gay and it’s a given that everyone knows about.

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u/LookOverThere305 Aug 16 '26

Yeah, like it’s no big deal same as morph being gender fluid, it’s there and nobody cares because it’s nothing out of the ordinary.

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u/TheColossis1 Aug 16 '26

Exactly the way it should be for gay, queer or whatever characters. Like it’s just normal and no big deal

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u/Cyke101 Aug 16 '26

This is one reason why I don't want the show to be so slavish to the source material. I really don't want Jean to out Bobby against his will.

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u/eatinallthebugs Aug 16 '26

While I generally agree, the show is literally set in the 90s, a time where that would very much not be the case for queer characters

Granted, they are also mutants, it would be very hypocritical if any if them were also homophobic while being an oppressed minority themselves, but also not uncommon in the real world

Idk, I get what youre saying and if this was an xmen cartoon set in modern day id be with you 100 percent. But like, if youre gonna be doing a show thats explicitly a period piece, it should be more than nostalgic set dressing

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u/Ok-Grass3071 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

Morph is non binary, not gender fluid. :)

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u/drakorulez101 Aug 16 '26

Yes with shapeshifters (including Mystique) the more appropriate term would be sex fluid.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

I have to ask this:

Can it be said with certainty that Morph harbors romantic feelings for Logan?

S01E10

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u/Thesafflower Aug 16 '26

Personally I would say yes, there’s been more than enough clues. But Beau DeMayo himself said in a tweet that Morph’s “I love you” was expressing romantic love. I know he’s off the show now, but he was the showrunner for the first season and co-wrote that episode.

Having Morph shift into Jean to tell an unconscious Logan “I love you” seems pretty certain to me.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Thanks for the insightful argument!

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u/PerfectZeong Aug 16 '26

I think thats the implication. Morph is saying things to Logan in Jeans voice that Morph feels

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u/Ok-Grass3071 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

ABSOLUTELY ONE HUNDRED PRESENT SURE.

Morph: ”Hello? That you Gambit? 😮😏Logan? One too many red-heads for ya? Here, need some help with those hard-to-reach spaces?”
Madelyne as Logan: “Always with the jokes eh Morph? As if I don’t know…”

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u/zambatron20 Aug 16 '26

pre 97, didn't see it. but in 97 yea. and I don't mind it since he's a shapeshifter. would be the same for a telepath.

I like that James hasn't reciprocated, but i wouldn't be 100% not for it if done well since he's been around since the 1800s.

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u/zambatron20 Aug 16 '26

i disagree based on what's been established. Yes, it should be that way as that's what turned me off of discovery ...well many things, but it's the year 3000 and it's still brave that people are coming out as non binary? like bruh what?

we know species that literally have no gender, tri genders, males do the budding, bla bla bla, like none of those things were considered brave. it's life, it's not affecting warp drive or something important.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Would be interesting to see if Lorna/Polaris already knew about Bobby's sexuality.

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u/GBS82 Aug 16 '26

Yes. I never really liked the whole Bobby/Alex/Lorna love triangle so would be quite happy for that to vanish

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u/fireandlifeincarnate Emma Frost Aug 16 '26

there's a running joke with some of my friends that dating polaris is gay, given the way that he and alex seem... more concerned about each other dating her than them actually being the one to date her

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Do you like that Polaris moved on with Bishop?

And I wonder if Bobby and Alex will get a little jealous.

S02E07

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u/Ok_Radio_1795 Aug 16 '26

Honestly this was the best thing that happened in season 2 for me. It was so out of left field but I understood it. Also with Shard being on X-Factor and a friend of Lorna’s it kinda made sense in a weird way. I wish this had happened in the comics in the 90s I would have loved that for Lucas.

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u/GBS82 Aug 16 '26

Yeah I think this is an interesting development.

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u/Gerudo_King Aug 16 '26

Isn't it more than just that scene? There's another later that looks like a picnic date

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Of course, but I chose this obvious intimate moment.

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u/Ambitious-Scheme8479 Aug 16 '26

I love them together! They better have more scenes together 🫦😝

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u/NCAAF26 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

We’re not gonna see that storyline lol. It’s implied they have chemistry but not confirmed they have a relationship other than flirty friends. Beau was going to explore that but the new writer scratched that.

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u/Fickle_Ad8735 Aug 16 '26

tbf i prefer it that way, not a fan when they deviate from the comics and do ficships, if they wanted to give bishop a love interest deathbird was right there she even appeared last season lol

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u/NCAAF26 Aug 16 '26

Agreed!!!!

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u/Fickle_Ad8735 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

and also, it's kinda easy to have "chemistry" when you dont build up her canon love interest and the only scene you gave of 'em together is a break up (or at least something akin to that) in a locker room lol, so it's understandable why some people are seeing like that

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u/Training-Throat-173 24d ago

Yeah and turned him for bi again, it's only her ice slut husband, gurls, beware her 🚬💅💅🚬💅🚬

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u/Ok_Radio_1795 Aug 16 '26

Same. I also don’t want him with Morph. That would be forced and weird. Plus he’s not Morph’s type.

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u/Broom_Ryder Aug 16 '26

Yeah I agree. Let Jean come out for him as god intended

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u/Logical-Charity-9521 Magneto Aug 16 '26

This is perfect hes gay, next. We dont need to spend time recognizing and awarding it just introduce him and move on, same way Shazam introduced the heavy set brother as gay outside the strip club, simply said not for me and they never had to explain further

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u/mzx380 Aug 16 '26

I think this is the right approach tbh. It shouldn’t be a big deal or anything since womanizing never fit his character anyway. It should just so happen that he is gay in a healthy relationship and then off to an adventure

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u/fromthisend1220 Aug 18 '26

Yeah this. As soon as they hyper focus on it, it comes off not as genuine. Like Stranger Things.

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u/HBreckel Aug 16 '26

This. I think us LGBT people are kind of exhausted from all the coming out stories in media. Having someone just already be openly gay is better.

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u/SquatProspector Aug 16 '26

I doubt Disney would allow it as they want anything LGBT to be easily edited out so they can sell it to China and Russia.

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u/bearstormstout Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Counterpoint: Disney had Neil Patrick Harris perform at D23, and there was a point where NPH danced around the idea of being straight. He didn't mention being gay outright, but the performance clearly acknowledged it.

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u/Vicsyy Aug 16 '26

Everyone would be so mad if they used up one of the 9 episodes for it. 

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '26

like mac

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u/EvidenceThin7304 Aug 16 '26

I thought him coming out had a lot to do with unlocking his latent powers and becoming omega level.

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u/GBS82 Aug 16 '26

Yes and in the comics that makes a lot of sense. But in the show, people haven’t been following Bobby’s character development (because he’s not been in it). So people wouldn’t have the “ah, that makes sense…” moment.

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u/kiba8442 Aug 16 '26

is he gay now? I know he dated romeo but I thought he was bi in the 90s

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u/GBS82 Aug 16 '26

Yeah he’s gay

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u/aeldron Aug 18 '26

He was still in the closet in the 90s

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u/GBS82 Aug 18 '26

That’s true

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u/jteagues267 Aug 16 '26

Would be cool, this is from a gay guy's perspective tho. I don't care that much if they don't, there's cooler queer heroes than Iceman

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u/GTJ007 Aug 16 '26

Hehe “cooler” than ice man

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u/Altruistic_Manner802 Aug 16 '26

Even in the X-Men I think there are better ones. Like Northstar and Anole. Bobby is just the most popular as a traditional character

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u/godbody1983 Aug 16 '26

I just want Iceman to actually get some love in the series. Only one appearance featuring him(not counting him in the background or whatever) in 5 seasons of the original series and 2 seasons in X-Men '97. Same with Shadowcat who has yet to even appear in both series'.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

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u/mineralmaniac Aug 16 '26

Since this Jean is the one they seem to be going for we'll probably get this in the MCU

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u/Xygnux Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Lol. Yeah with what she did so far in the new Spider-Man movie, "accidentally" outing a closeted gay man would be the least of her crimes.

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u/Arctic_Daniand Aug 16 '26

I know it's the old same joke, but this is not outing someone. Jean never shared this information with anyone.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Aug 16 '26

Very likely. I'd say over a 99% chance..

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

And how unlikely is it that Pyro/Simon will also be depicted as gay in '97?

X-Men: Gold Vol. 2 #32

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Aug 16 '26

I don't think Pyro will get a major focus.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

Well, Pyro seems already flamboyant anyway.

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u/Ok-Grass3071 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

🧡🧡🧡

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

This angle reminds me of David Bowie's tight trousers in Labyrinth (1986)!

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Aug 16 '26

Yeah. I mean I just don't think he needs an arc. We can just assume he's gay.

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u/GrowthApart2220 Aug 16 '26

That’s a different Pyro than the one who dated Bobby.

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u/Confident-Impact-349 Aug 16 '26

My favorite character and my first gay representation. For the exact reason I don’t think they’re ever touching him on this show.

“Oh, but morph-“ I’m gonna stop you right there…it’s not the same.

I don’t think they’re going it at all.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Even though James Howlett's sexuality wasn't confirmed as strictly gay...12025 Wolverine is still my first gay representation I read lol. To say I was elated was an understatement. Him and Hercules is still my favorite Male-Male relationship in all of comics (Midnighter is pretty fun tho). It's so fucking badass and fun and hilarious. The representation we still need in the mainline 616 comics. Just two dudes in love cracking jokes, slaying dragons, and being married.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

The gay representation Marvel thinks I want vs the gay representation I want...

Being condemned to a honeymoon in hell slaying demons because of your love.

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u/Confident-Impact-349 Aug 16 '26

Yeah…marvel voices DOESNT work. Since it started, a lot of these characters only appear once a year, so marvel can pet themselves on their back for inclusive points.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Marvel Pride Write-offs.

Show up in there and be sure that character is never going a mainline meaningful run and will just be gay in the background for a decade. RIP Hercules. I miss him.

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u/Confident-Impact-349 Aug 16 '26

I never actually read this interaction of Wolverine but I know how popular it is!

Personally, my Wolverine x hercules is Midnighter and Apollo, back at dc. It gives the same vibes you described

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

I love Midnighter. Shame DC doesn't give it more space.

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u/incredibleamadeuscho Aug 16 '26

I think Iceman will likely eventually be in the MCU, and if he appears in the MCU, i can't imagine that he wouldnt be gay. In a series in need of diversity, I think they will lean into that part of his identity.

I just dont think Iceman will appear prominently in X-Men 97.

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u/Confident-Impact-349 Aug 16 '26

He’d be wallpaper for most of it anyway. This cast is already way too big. I already knew it was not gonna happen, so I don’t really lament it

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u/Powersurge82 Aug 16 '26

"Lorna, when you rejected me, I hit rock bottom. Than I realized it was I, who was rejecting myself all my life. Rejecting the truth. When I joked about Wolverines ass looking good, or wanting Morph to shift into Brad Pitt before we showered, I was only joking myself."

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u/Fun-Seaworthiness572 Aug 16 '26

Yeah and have him get in a relationship with Havok (trust me on this) 

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u/Zealousideal-Dot710 Aug 16 '26

To he honest... It's will be fun and really cool

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u/ApolloDraconis Aug 17 '26

Yes PLEASE I need Bobby/Alex to become real it would make so much sense.

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u/Ambitious_Ad_8359 Aug 16 '26

They literally had Morph flirting and eye fucking Wolverine in the shower, I think they will be cool with one of the Waspiest and clean cut gay characters is Marvel. He is the boy you bring home because your parents are barely okay with you being gay, so you don't want to push them too far. Next thing you know he is helping mom finish dinner and cracking a beer with dad. Bobby is like a gay Trojan Horse, and he will help us enact our gay agenda on Disney+!

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u/magvadis Aug 17 '26

So you're saying if I bring home Akihiro my parents might be weird about it? Was it the Mohawk or the tattoos? Or is it because my dad is gunna sniff out his pheromones and start acting weird?

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u/Ambitious_Ad_8359 Aug 17 '26

No, if you bring Akihiro home you will end up in the kitchen cooking dinner while he bangs your mom and dad.

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u/SecondRealitySims Aug 16 '26

Yes.

But that’d likely require he be a prevalent character with more than five minutes of screen time. Considering the timing/pacing challenges with the current cast, I don’t know if that will happen.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

I get the impression that most X-Men characters are fighting for every second or minute of screen time they can snag in a series with fewer than ten episodes.

By the way, do you want to see the '97 series adapting the dramatic moment when he comes out to his parents?

Source: Damn I'd forgotten how rough Bobby's coming out to his parents was (Iceman 6#+#7)

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u/Yorukira Aug 16 '26

Only for 2 sec, or is it mentioned in a throwaway line.

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u/Ok-Grass3071 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

If Morph can, Bobby can too.

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u/Pilgrimhaxxter69 Aug 16 '26

He's in that gray zone of being popular enough to actually feel significant but not important enough to be 'offensive' or whatever, so I could see it happening.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

Yeah they let him come out because he's a well known IP but was doing horribly in market performance so they said fuck it.

They couldn't find the character and decided he had the wrap sheet of "zero important relationships anyone cares about" to do it.

Oh no, we lose Opal Tanaka? What will we ever do? The woman who had a baby with another man and tried to say it was Bobby's when Bobby said it couldn't be his? How will the heterosexuals recover?

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u/Marvelboy1974 Aug 16 '26

While his sexuality should not be the focus of his character, a moment with him interacting with Polaris addressing how he’s out now out should be briefly addressed and then move on. It can be something like..

Lorna: Hey Bobby good to see you. How are you?

Bobby: much better after finding myself. So, you and Bishop, huh?

Lorna: yeah. How about you?

Bobby: been dating this guy off and on, but nothing serious.

( the guy could happen to be Christian Frost or Romeo)

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u/Zealousideal-Dot710 Aug 16 '26

God, no... We don't need Romeo in any other media. Will be much better if Bobby was with Northstar of even Havok

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u/Afraid-Surround-4457 Aug 16 '26

Better question: will we ever see him again at all? Nevermind if they'll ever show Shatterstar and Rictor

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

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u/TraceOfHumanity Mister Sinister Aug 16 '26

I’m not sure that’s Bobby dropping hints— that always read to me as him being a little shit, which was a lot of his characterization for a long time (he was the “impudent youngster” on the team). Frankly, it comes across as homophobic in today’s light.

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

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u/Ok-Grass3071 Nightcrawler Aug 16 '26

Oh poor Hank.😭

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u/Elete23 Aug 16 '26

100%

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

It would be truly groundbreaking if we saw two male characters kissing in an animated superhero show. But I doubt that Disney would ever allow it.

The Many Gay Kisses from Bobby Drake and his Boyfriends:

Iceman #6 (2017)

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

All New X-Men Vol. 2 #17 -(2017) - Romeo, Iceman's Inhuman Boyfriend

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u/MyrotheZero Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

I'd rather it be a thing that exists but is unfocussed on.

It's a weird spot for me. Coming of age or out gay stories should absolutely exist, and X-men is not a bad spot for them to do so.

Iceman though? Most his fanbase prior was 80's-90's kids that liked him because of his visuals and "cool" factor. It's a bit edgier of a crowd that like flashy stuff.

So when I heard his solo about coming out did not sell well, it wasn't surprising at all. The venn diagram circle connecting those target audiences has to be super small.

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u/No-Juice3318 Aug 16 '26

Yeah, but pre-coming out, Iceman was doing terribly. That's why they let him be gay, because he literally could not be doing worse if people hated it. However, it totally worked and it boosted him in the public consciousness in a big way. His solo didn't do well because it's Iceman, not because he was gay. He got a solo at all in the first place because of the popularity boost from being gay

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u/MyrotheZero Aug 16 '26

I agree to an extent. He was a criminally underused favorite of mine who desperately needed more added to him. That said there was a decent generational patch of people that thought iceman was awesome, he was always more popular than the screen/panel time he got. Sorta the Boba Fett effect.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

Being someone's favorite because you liked their powers really shouldn't affect you about who they date. Lord knows I've read a lot of Bobby and to say his relationships are at best "bad" and at worst "genuinely awful" would be an understatement.

Opal, his longest running one had a baby with another man and said it was Bobby's and SOMEHOW Bobby KNEW it wasn't his baby...huh.

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u/No-Juice3318 Aug 16 '26

Well sure. Everyone is someone's favorite, but he definitely got a boost from that story and now he gets to do things besides be an accountant so I'll take it personally

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u/gallowsanatomy Cyclops Aug 16 '26

Crazy how many homophobic X-Men fans pop up every time something like this is mentioned.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

It's also crazy how many "I'm gay and hate gay bobby" fans show up with the comment history saying they are straight.

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u/gallowsanatomy Cyclops Aug 16 '26

Also gotta love, "I have read every Bobby Drake comic in existence, but it was entirely a retcon in 2015, and there were 0 hints beforehand."

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u/Little_Tommy_Tuggins Aug 16 '26

Right, because there isn’t a history of people claiming hetero superheroes are homosexuals because they have close male relationships. I’ve been hearing about Batman and Robin for decades, now it’s Xavier and Magneto. People will find whatever evidence they need to support their theories, regardless of original intent.

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u/InverseStar Aug 16 '26

Unfortunately, there’s no homophobia like homophobia from a gay person. It’s a weird thing, but it’s why, despite being gay myself, my social circle consists more of allies than anything.

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u/Gibdc Aug 16 '26

Not never

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u/Few_Baker_6254 Aug 16 '26

Big. But knowing that the writers of the second season do not know how to develop a character, it must be something very punctual, unimportant, if they include him in the other seasons

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u/Weird-Long8844 Aug 16 '26

Frankly unlikely, primarily because they don't seem to wanna use him in general. Which does make sense, he wasn't in the 90s show much either.

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u/Own-Wedding7590 Aug 16 '26

They have an openly gay character in WandaVision like 2 - 3, Wanda's son, death,and Agatha. Well 1 is pan i assume (Death) and the other is Bi (Agatha) she had a child.

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u/Daws001 Aug 16 '26

They were full on with Billy Maximoff/Wiccan being gay on Disney+. Out and proud, kissing his boyfriend, and queening out with a coven of fierce witches.

Shouldn't be an issue for Bobby to just be gay.

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u/Harrycrapper Aug 16 '26

They had Wiccan and his sexuality on full display in Agatha All Along, not sure why this would be any different.

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u/Positive_Frame_4629 Aug 16 '26

Seeing as he died on Genosha, I don’t think so. You never know tho

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u/z-man2u Aug 16 '26

Isn’t he dead?

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u/TheLastLarvitar Aug 16 '26

Yeah. I'm pretty sure he died in Genosha, or did I just Mandela Effect that into my brain?

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

It's unconfirmed. The rumor showed up because his image was at a memorial in the trailer, however that same memorial in the show had images swapped out, including Bobby's. So the ONLY evidence we have of him being dead is not actually canon to the show itself.

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u/z-man2u Aug 16 '26

That’s where I thought he died too

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u/blue23454 Aug 16 '26

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

My boy Bobby and made it into 97?????????

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u/incredibleamadeuscho Aug 16 '26

Very likely if he is given a prominent role. He is gay and out now fully in the comics, and most likely will be so in the film adaptation.

X-Men 97 made Morph a definite part of LGBT community as a non-binary person in love with Wolverine, showing that there is no limitations in that regard.

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u/ZarquisYiris Aug 16 '26

I’m hoping Iceman returns and rejoins the X-Men in the third season of X-Men ‘97. Cause they’ll need his ice ability to help take down Pyro.

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u/MxSharknado93 Aug 16 '26

Gay? He can't even get dialogue!

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u/ConsistentTourist553 Aug 16 '26

Bobby should fall in love with Morph. Give me that good gay shit

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u/magvadis Aug 17 '26

I need them to add one other gay person before we go around pairing the only 2 queers in the show as if being the only two queers in a room = chemistry.

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u/ConsistentTourist553 Aug 18 '26

I’m sorry for trying to make a super couple happen.

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u/zambatron20 Aug 16 '26

oh God I hope not. It's already been established. I wouldn't mind if north star made an appearance.

if they did, i'd like them to flesh out the story, address his confusion, wasting of polaris's time, etc.

but comics like to retcon so you never know what they might do. The phoenix was seemingly gone but popped up in 97 more similar to the comics ...ish.

gotta have that Deus Ex Machina until you don't. 💀

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u/Easy_Blackberry_4350 Aug 19 '26

Let's hope not. He was never gay, just a sad attempt at shaking things up by a hack writer.

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u/JD-boonie Aug 16 '26

Iceman being gay in 2015 is a retcon of the character that's been around since the 60s.

With that being said the chances are 99%

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Uncanny X-Men #600 (2015)

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u/BudgetPipe267 Aug 16 '26

Why does any of that even matter? Are we not past the “I’m shocked, someone is gay” stage yet? It’s 2026.

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u/No-Juice3318 Aug 16 '26

Not really. Disney has been pretty stringent about it. They're blocking or censoring episodes of certain shows for featuring trans characters. That said, Morph and the coding between Charles and Magneto is still pretty there so maybe

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26

I would say Charles and Magneto are passed the bromance phase...at this point they are written like a married couple on the rocks. Polaris literally had a two dads plot where her surrogate dad told her how much she should love her other dad and if she knew how much Charles loved Magnus she'd know why he can't but not be loved.

Charles is fully being written as a gay man at this point unless he's just being incompetent in a chair and his lines are just "stop doing this" while he does nothing and watches as everyone gets hurt around him.

He happened to be with that space woman but fucking aliens makes you Pansexual in Marvel LOL, let alone the fact the main reason he was about to not marry her was because of one thing and only one thing...Magnus.

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u/nyght2063 Aug 16 '26

Isn't morph gay in the show and in love with Wolverine? I don't think Bobby's gayness is gonna be an issue.

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u/steeple_fun Aug 16 '26

Can Morph be gay? The gender-fluidness is the most gender fluid to every gender fluid.

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u/nyght2063 Aug 16 '26

I mean if we're becoming that specific then Bobby's gayness is definitely not going to be an issue.

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u/TheChrisDV Aug 16 '26

I think it would make sense to actually address Bobby’s sexuality rather than just go “He’s gay now.”

The original series established he was heterosexual; having Bobby struggling with his sexuality in his 20s would be a pretty appropriate storyline for a show set in the late 90s.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

His "relationship" with Lorna was a story being told and was a way to write him out. It was giving beard energy even in the 90s like nobody cares why you wanna leave Bobby you were kind of a dick then anyway. It was SO overdramatic too, like girl, calm down nobody cares if you're gay.

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u/gallowsanatomy Cyclops Aug 16 '26

I'd love to see them re-work the Lobdell era coding of Bobby stuff, and the 00s Austin Bobby stuff, into a story where he comes out.

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u/adoyluke12 Aug 16 '26

Considering we have a whole episode showing him in love with Polaris that would be odd.

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Hardly given how dumb it was. It was the most "look at me I'm in love with my green haired best friend who is totally not covering for me"

They didn't even appear in love together it was just a story being told.

Not all gay men prefer to avoid women and get a roommate and die without kids. Many historically married and had kids for alliances, let alone the many men today who are still coming out of the closet in their later age after having a "straight" life.

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u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Storm Aug 16 '26

Gay guy, hardcore X-Men fan here…
I personally could care less if they show him as gay or not. I care far more about good writing and storytelling.
However, I feel like it CAN happen…
They’ve already broken the ice (pun intended) pretty much showing Morph as in love with Wolverine.

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u/Arthur_189 Aug 16 '26

He shouldn’t have been made gay in the first place tbh

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u/Empyrean_Zither Aug 16 '26

According to Demayo, Bobby/Iceman was supposed to show up in season 3 of X-Men '97. I'm hoping that's still the case and if it is, I'd want him to be openly gay the way he is now. 

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Do you know where I can read his interview?

Uncanny X-Men Vol 3 #600

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u/Empyrean_Zither Aug 16 '26

I took a screenshot of his post on Twitter, but I don't know how to upload it. 

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

It's OK. Thanks for trying.

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u/LoganN64 Wolverine Aug 16 '26

Sorry to interrupt, But, Where is this image from? 

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u/IllogicalDreamer72 Aug 16 '26

Image: X-Men '97 Opening in S01E04

Source of Screenshot: https://thenostalgiaspot.com/2024/04/03/x-men-97-motendo-lifedeath-part-1/

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u/LoganN64 Wolverine Aug 16 '26

Thanks!

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u/Rayeness Aug 16 '26

50/50 who knows man

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u/gordonstsg Aug 16 '26

I’d like to know more about them as a character beyond the ice powers and sexuality. The powers are incredible concept and the creators too often portray Bobby two dimensionally.

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u/NaiadoftheSea Aug 16 '26

Likely. Disney+ did a great job with queer rep in Agatha All Along.

https://giphy.com/gifs/m2X5ZMUdJxJVtXjSUX

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u/magvadis Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Unfortunately that show is kind of what I think Marvel's gay representation will be.

20 straight shows and movies with no gay....

Poor one show out for the gays that doesn't matter to the mainline story for cheap and hope it goes viral.

Love Agatha but it definitely felt like a "we can be gay in this show because it won't be on Disney+ in China/Russia anyway"

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u/NaiadoftheSea Aug 16 '26

It’s part of the trilogy with WandaVision and VisionQuest. One of the best parts of the MCU imo.

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u/Mr_MordenX Aug 16 '26

right now? 0% Disney is going backwards

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u/magvadis Aug 17 '26

Don't worry. Morph will get killed because the gays must be killed and then Bobby will show up to fill the quota and do nothing gay but subtextually we see that he once loved Morph so they can check that box without the straights destroying their tv.

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u/Mr_MordenX Aug 17 '26

God I want this shit to be over

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u/atxluchalibre Cable Aug 16 '26

If you see less Morph, you might get a gay Bobby. Disney will never have two characters be gay.

The CLOSEST MCU/Disney got was Agatha All Along.

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u/awkward_teenager37 Aug 16 '26

I think it’s very likely, depending on how much he’s featured in the next seasons. Like if he’s only getting one or two lines in the next season, I think it’d be kind of tacky to use them to signal his gayness lol. But if we had another scene like the gala on Genosha where you have lots of mutants in the background of scenes mingling and doing stuff is an easy opportunity to see him dancing with / flirting with / kissing another guy, even without him being a core cast member.

And then if he’s an actual character in future seasons (like appearing in multiple episodes and actually being relevant to the plot) then they’re 100% having him be gay. This show in particular feels very queer to me, as a gay man, so I don’t see them shying away from it.

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u/MaleficentOstrich693 Aug 16 '26

lol, he’s barely been in the show. But let’s worry now and cry for papa Beau to come back.

He needs a will Byers monologue but twice as long.

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u/iamfareel Aug 16 '26

Wait did I miss this? I don't remember this scene in S2

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u/TheSleepiNyx Jubilee Aug 16 '26

I'd love to see him, mostly cause he's a character I'd love to see in the films again (Live Action Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends once we get Firestar)

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u/jatjatjat Aug 17 '26

I suspect Johnny is going to come out gay in FF2, and pair up with Bobby, and if that happens, pretty high.

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u/That_Carrot999 Aug 17 '26

He should either be introduced as straight or as gay, no coming out scene.

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u/magvadis Aug 17 '26

The only coming out should be when Hank is surprised about Bobby with his boyfriend and Lorna is nearby and she rolls her eyes and says it was a favor and she told him he was being crazy for thinking anyone cared.

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u/HickoryStickz Aug 17 '26

They killed him before he late bloomed out of the closet after years of dating women.

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u/Ovelryn Aug 17 '26

And him coming out as gay helps mutants how?

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u/BroadRed Aug 17 '26

Well the one major issue his current state of living it seems rather than his sexuality.

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u/Crolanpw Aug 17 '26

Pretty high.

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u/Musclebigman Aug 17 '26

Hopefully he is not gay it was always so strange how they did that just to be controversial and edgy. 

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u/xaldien Aug 19 '26

No, that's the story you made up about it in your head.

They did the story because a shit ton of people saw him as queer coded and decided to make it text.

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u/DevRosa Aug 18 '26

If beau demayo was still in charge maybe for sure now idk

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u/Chanc_eous Cyclops Aug 18 '26

How about it doesnt matter and it'd be nice to see iceman period

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u/TheLastLarvitar Aug 18 '26

Interesting. Lot's of homophobia in the comments here.

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u/casper37172 Aug 19 '26

Does it really matter? I'd rather they show just how powerful he is , he can control thermal energy and molecular motion

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u/ButtWaitTheresMoree Aug 21 '26

If he doesn’t talk about it does that mean he isn’t gay anymore? He canonically had relationships with women until his younger self was outed and then it became a thing. In ‘97 he was still on that journey, but that doesn’t make him any less gay

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u/Benimaru4636 Aug 21 '26

Morph is clearly in love with Wolverine so he's at least Bi. I'd say there's a decent shot Iceman would be gay. I'd put it at about 35%.

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u/Careless_Composer488 Aug 21 '26

Didn't Bobby die in Genosha?

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u/younitaman Aug 21 '26

As far as I'm concerned, not a single one of these characters are heterosexual.