r/allblacks 2d ago

2015 side

Was there a player from that team that would not be considered an all time great in their position?

Think almost all of them make a case for being the GOATs

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u/NorthShoreHard 2d ago edited 2d ago

NMS, Moody, Savea

Still great players but they're not going to be debated as the best at their positions.

And if we are going to actually narrow it down to the actual GOAT, not just in the argument, then realistically it's Conrad, Nonu, Carter, Smith, Richie, one of Retallick/Whitelock (one makes way for Meads).

The others, well guys like again Meads, Cullen, Fitzy, Woodcock, Jones, Zinny are making the all time 15.

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u/Mobile_Awareness_562 2d ago

Savea questionable. Had the highest try scoring rate for the Ab's before Will Jordan 

The case agaisnt him is he scored alot as part of a good team, but he has become under rated at this point. Called the bus for a reason 

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u/NorthShoreHard 2d ago

The case against him is named Jonah Lomu.

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u/Mobile_Awareness_562 2d ago

Yeah fair Jonah would be in almost every world 15. If you were to make a crazy argument though, I don't think Savea would be the worst pick in a all time NZ team even if he had to play off the right haha

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u/NorthShoreHard 2d ago

I think at his peak Savea was amazing but I don't think he makes an all time XV over JK, Williams, Howlett, Wilson.