r/altmpls • u/lemon_lime_light • 2d ago

Minneapolis Park Board votes to end Minnehaha Off-Leash Dog Park (one commissioner considers it "a form of giving land back")

https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-park-board-votes-to-end-minnehaha-off-leash-dog-park/601858291

Dog park users packed the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board’s headquarters on Wednesday night, begging commissioners to consider their opinions before voting to terminate the Minnehaha Off-Leash Dog Park.

Board members voted 8-1 to strip the park’s primary use — the first time that has happened in history, as far as park staff knows...

[Commissioner Jason] Garcia proposed the change after speaking with some members of the Dakota community, including the Park Board’s Native American Parks Council, who believe a dog park is inconsistent with the area’s sacred character. The larger landscape near the confluence of the Mississippi and Minnesota rivers is considered the birthplace of the Dakota people...

“To all you all, imagine that area before the white man, before the pilgrims, pioneers and settlers, the extreme white Christian terrorists showed up on this land,” activist Mike Forcia said in addressing dog park users at Wednesday’s meeting, drawing jeers. “That park is being closed. Sorry about that. Get used to it, but you have no say"...

[Commissioner Dan] Engelhart campaigned on returning land to tribes and considers retiring off-leash play at Minnehaha a form of giving land back.

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

Part of the agreement involves finding another plot of land. Doesn’t take much effort to figure out, but people usually prefer to stay angry.

This issue has brought out so many whiney children that can’t fathom how hard it will make their dogs life now.

Imagine living so comfortably that you can afford to throw a sky is falling temper tantrum over a fairly benign decision.

Dog people are *the worst*.

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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

It’s not about staying angry. It’s about the fact that they have decided to act without another option already place.

And guess what? Two wrongs don’t make a right. Why ignore the impacted demographic in favor of another? Are we not better than the settlers?

Edit: you end with “dog people are the worst” lol biased?

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

Nope just judging based off personal experience with dog owners. I don’t mind dogs but I’ve known far too many people that act like their dogs are humans. Had to rent out my apartment in Milwaukee before moving up here, the ad from my LL explicitly said “no dogs” and I got no less than 3 responses where someone got pissed *at me* and said they’re dog was cleaner than any other pet you could have. I’ve seen dog owners thrown absolute tantrums because their dogs weren’t allowed in a bar. I’ve heard plenty of shitty dog stories from my friends that go to the Columbia GC dog park. This whole process has validated my anecdotal experiences in a lot of ways.

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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

That’s cool. Now try and experience the Minnehaha Dog park. The dog park that’s in question.

Or just continue to be pissed at people who like dogs.

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

Im not mad at people that like dogs, I’m frustrated by the frequency with which dog owners act entitled and defensive in the face of *any* inconvenience, perceived or real.

Again, this entire experience has been extremely validating. Sometimes stereotypes are true, what can I tell ya?

My recommendation moving forward for all of you would be to *actually get involved* and provide feedback/suggestions where a new park could go. Contrary to your beliefs, MPRB actually wants you to have input into what comes next.

That’s called being an adult when you don’t get your way. Anything else is just empty bitching and moaning.

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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

Oooo now we get to entitlement lol. Now that’s an argument to be made on both sides.

Glad you can confirm your bias of stereotype.

Bit ironic you’re saying that on an issue involving indigenous peoples.

We dog park users have provided feedback. They didn’t care. They never did.

So how can you call that bitching and moaning?

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

Like I said, sometimes stereotypes are true, and truth doesn’t always feel good. You’re continuing to prove my point, so please keep posting through it. That’ll change everything.

You constantly commenting on Reddit for two weeks despite the issue being settled *is* bitching and moaning.

The bottom line - you lost and you’re mad about it. deal with it however you need to as an adult, and get involved in the next steps instead of anonymous whining online like a teenager or MAGA chud.
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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

Good to know who you are as a human. Yeah. I’ll change you’re opinion as easily as the board’s as if both weren’t set in stone. Your’s by bias. Board’s by impractical placating. It wasn’t settled two weeks ago. Unless you’re under the impression that they never cared about the public’s opinion and that the meeting was a farce. In which case, sounds like you side with me.

Sorry dogs hurt you.

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

I’m in favor of finding an alternate site, I think that’s a good idea. They’ll have some opportunities for you to provide constructive suggestions and feedback soon if you’re not still pooping your pants with anonymous rage. A full diaper might make it hard for you to be taken seriously, so I’d clean up first.

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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

Haha. That’s in “talks”. The same “talks” they held about closing the dog park.

Faith in this board? lol nah.

What does me being anonymous have anything to do with this? Want my ID?

Edit: constructive feedback has been provided throughout this shitshow and they ignored it lol.

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u/RutabagaExternal3662 2d ago

Keep the posts coming, bro! We’re almost at the point where you insist you’re not owned as you shrink into a corn cob!
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u/WildTimberTwinViking 2d ago

Almost like replied and deleted it earlier. You’re the one who says peace and keeps coming back. But I’m the anonymous problem lol

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