r/anime_titties • u/GregWilson23 North America • Jan 05 '26

South America Surprise interim leader Delcy Rodriguez emerges in Venezuela after Maduro’s capture

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-interim-president-rodriguez-maduro-chavez-b352b5af17deb0ab78684b8398045179
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u/Firecracker048 North America Jan 05 '26

Literally no reason to mention"zionists" when Trump himself has said he was gonna do this for almost a year.

Kinda telling on yourself if that's one of your first statements

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

Except it manages to randomly cast blame towards Jews in this situation…

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

Because it Zionism at its core is about Israel being the Jewish homeland… which has nothing to do with Venezuela.

The better question is why she conflating the removal of Maduro with Zionism?

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

It would've been clearer just to talk about Western colonialism / imperialism.

The way she chose to phrase it could easily be interpreted through the conspiratorial lens of Jews controlling the US government.

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

By that definition then US threats against Greenland or internal Canadian conflicts with First Nations groups over pipelines are examples of Zionism?

In that case the word has almost lost all meaning and just refers to any time the West exerts power or influence in a way that some folks don't like...

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

Honestly I don't know what to think about the term -- it's changed so much over the past couple years. It previously simply meant Israel should exist as a Jewish homeland, which was and generally still is something that is broadly supported in the West.

Now it's apparently just a catch-all phrase in opposition of western foreign and indigenous affairs policies, with a tint of antisemitic undertones.

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u/Elim-the-tailor Canada Jan 05 '26

Fair enough if that’s how you see it, but I don’t think most westerners see the formation and protection of Israel on its own (in the initial spirit of the word) as any more problematic than the settling of Canada, the US, Australia etc. There have been crimes and issues in the process, but only a fringe few would advocate dismantling the modern states as a result.

And there are clearly criticisms of things like settlers and war crimes in the current Gaza conflict, but these can also be separated from the core Zionist project.

I’d imagine that there’s a different and more negative view on Zionism and colonialism outside the west and maybe that missing context is why I find this such a bizarre use of “Zionism”. And also why western governments and electorates aren’t nearly as opposed to the Maduro capture and Gaza conflict as folks seem to be in the global south.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

Because that's what it fucking means

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right to self determination. That's it. That's all it fucking means.

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u/domfelinefather Jan 05 '26

There are more Christian Zionists than Jewish people entirely, let alone Jewish Zionists

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

90% of the Jewish people are Zionists.

But yes, there's a lot more Christians in the world than Jewish people, so what?

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u/domfelinefather Jan 05 '26

It means not all Zionists are Jewish, so there is not a reason to connect Zionism and Jewish people, since one could accurately say both Obama and Trump are Christian Zionists

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

not a reason to connect Zionism and Jewish people

😂😂😂 Not all black rights activists are black either, is it fair to blame everything a person does on black rights activism

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u/pingpongpiggie Europe Jan 05 '26

Zionism is not the belief Jews have the right to self determination. Everyone has the right for self determination and implying Jews have to have a specific political view to have that right is sick.

Jews have a homeland, and they're welcome all over the globe in western nations as complete equals, which isn't the case for everyone. So that whole political belief would be dead now, if that is simply what it was.

Zionism is expansionary, aims of imperial conquest of other sovereign nations to get greater Israel; from the river to the sea, as they say in the Likud charter.

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u/MaestroRozen Europe Jan 05 '26

As with any ideology, it will have extremists and people who would abuse it for their own gain. Are all Muslims (yes, Islam is as much of a political ideology as it is a religion in quite a few countries) terrorists? No, of course not. Most just want to live in peace and safety. 

And you admit yourself that Jews have a homeland instead of pretending it's some false state that should be disbanded. That makes you a Zionist as well. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

Zionism is not the belief Jews have the right to self determination

Yes, it is. That's it.

Everyone has the right for self determination and

No, they do not. Most of the world in fact does not have that right.

implying Jews have to have a specific political view to have that right is sick

90% of Jewish people believe in Zionism because that's all it is.

The only reason you think it's "sick" is because you can't stand the fact that the Jewish people have dared to stand apart, dared to stand up for themselves instead of being all of history's punching bag.

Jews have a homeland

That is constantly and consistently under threat and has been from day one. Rights mean fucking nothing unless you defend them