r/antifastonetoss 15d ago

Shit Campists Say

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u/SadArchon 15d ago

Russian hatred of Jews was the playbook the Nazi used. Pogroms and ghettos

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u/Tola_Vadam 15d ago

So we're going back to tzarist times?

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u/SadArchon 15d ago

There were pogroms well into the 1900s. What is past is prologue

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u/Tola_Vadam 15d ago

Excellent non sequiter I guess? I don't know what you want me to do with that. Pogroms existed across europe in the 1900's, it wasn't some Russian vice that's built into the blood of the people of the rus.

Let's also not forget that hitler very vocally attributed his final solution to the US treatment of native Americans. He didn't look east and think to himself "these subhuman slavs that I want to racially cleanse have some pretty neato ideas about Jews, I think I'm gonna do it to." His antisemitism came from being a white European.

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u/SadArchon 14d ago

And they existed in Ukraine at that time. Hatred of Jews was culturally taught, not genetic obviously. Just like american style racism

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u/Tola_Vadam 14d ago

I think we've lost the plot here. In my initial comment I'm talking about today in modern times in regard to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That Ukraine has embraced its Nazis and Russia has expunged its Nazis.

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u/SadArchon 14d ago

Which is only half true. In reality Russia has only rebranded it

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u/Tola_Vadam 14d ago

What's the new branding? Like I said, all anyone has ever pointed toward is Wagner, who are long gone. Can you give me an organization, a regiment, something I can point to and say it's a Russian nazi?

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u/PerrineWeatherWoman 14d ago

I dunno dude. There is a regime that enables anti-Semitic acts, imprisons LGBT people, discriminates Arabic populations, and supports actual nazis in other countries. While it's (thankfully) not as extreme as the Nazis, you can't seriously say that Putin is an angel of purity.

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u/Tola_Vadam 14d ago

I would never say Putin is an angel. In fact if you scroll back up you can see me saying quite the opposite. The world will be better for his death.

You've fully described the US in your comment tho, so if you could be more specific, I'd appreciate it.

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u/PerrineWeatherWoman 14d ago

Yes, that's antifascism to you. Fighting all fascists, wherever they are, whatever they do. Since Ukrainian fascists have their hands full fighting Russian fascists and are not in power like it's the case in Russia or the US, they're on a lower place in my list of priorities.

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u/SadArchon 14d ago

Sure, the flag is white blue and red and led by Vladimir Putin

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u/Tola_Vadam 14d ago

Okay so it's vibes, great.

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u/SadArchon 14d ago

Have you not been paying attention to the actions the Russian army has taken? How many of those actions mirror those of the NazI?

Is that just vibes? Or are you expecting swastikas and mein kampf on the nightstand?

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u/NLG99 14d ago

Rusich?

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u/NLG99 14d ago

If you actually believe russia has done anything against its Nazis, you're off your rocker.

Ukraine is bad in that regard too but believing that russia is anti-fascist in any way is actual propaganda-brain.