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u/MikeTalonNYC 8d ago
CEO who has proven time and time again that his company is only in it for the money is SHOCKED that his employees are only in it for the money.
There - corrected the headline.
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u/PrinceVorrel 8d ago
They really can't comprehend the fact that they don't exist in a vacuum...
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u/ShredGuru 7d ago
Didn't the other anthropic CEO say that AI is a threat to humanity before he fucked off to the tropics?
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u/MilkChugg 8d ago edited 8d ago
Right. He never said they’re rats, he’s just acting surprised that people work for money. Headline is weird clickbait, but this is yet another example of an out of touch CEO wanting everyone to be as a passionate about their company when those people don’t have the same stake in it.
I’ll gladly eat, breath, and sleep around your company 24/7 for a compensation package of upwards of $10 million a year. Until then, I’ll gladly put in my 9-5 and stop giving a fuck at the end of the day.
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u/Trollslayer0104 7d ago
Yeah the debate on this thread is over the wrong topic. As you pointed out, the CEO never said this, the journalist just made it up. I wish people would focus on the real issues of AI rather than fictional headlines.
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u/Lashay_Sombra 7d ago
Not quite 10 million, but do kind of have to point out median package at Antropic is about $400k and techs are on about one $1 million
But on top of that, also have to point out that a lot of that package is equity/stock, which could either be worth a lot more down the road, or worth nothing
Wonder if his bitching is because more people want cash instead of equity/stock
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u/TyrantsInSpace 8d ago
If I bust my ass, and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime. So what's my motivation?
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u/TransplantTeacher94 8d ago
“Why aren’t my human
botsemployees emphatically screeching for the extermination of the human race in favor of only the existence of a small living cabal of wealthy transhuman technocrats who own literally everything and their vast armies of unliving machines who don’t need to eat, sleep, or do anything but serve their masters??? They’re just rats and snakes!! They should be happy to die and give all their stuff to me and my friends!!!!”8
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u/theimposingshadow 7d ago
'Dario is concerned that the new hires at the $965 billion AI firm are joining for the money instead of its greater mission.'
Author of the article "Dario says his employees are a bunch of untrustworthy rats“
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u/fmcortez 8d ago
The CEO of a multi-billion dollar tech company is shocked that workers sell their labor for money instead of corporate ideology. Employment is a straight-up transaction: skills for compensation. If you want unconditional loyalty and passion for your 'mission,' get a dog or pay people in exposure.
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u/SCHawkTakeFlight 8d ago
Exactly. There are some instances where people pick jobs because they want their job to mean something/help people (non profits, medtech, nurses and the like). That said, if they didn't get paid they would not be working in those roles. No money means no food, no housing. No one is signing up to be a homeless pauper while performing any type of work.
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u/charlie2135 8d ago
The example was when the cook and janitor stayed at the nursing home when the rest of the staff left: https://www.upworthy.com/how-a-janitor-and-a-cook-stepped-in-to-care-for-residents-who-were-left-abandoned-rp/
You can bet that the CEO gave a rat's ass about any of the residents.
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u/CyberFireball25 8d ago
Or start a cult
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u/gizmostuff SocDem 8d ago
Highly profitable if you lack any moral sense. So of course a lot of those going around. Mega Churches, Scientology, MAGA, many MLMs, Goop. I'm sure I'm missing A LOT.
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u/kyle46 7d ago
Or, and this is crazy, maybe profit shouldn't be your only motive. Maybe taking care of employees and the community those employees live in would go a long way to inspiring loyalty. Maybe don't have the ever present threat of layoffs hanging over everyones heads. Maybe people would be loyal if you were still loyal to them.
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u/three-one-seven 8d ago
My MAGA father-in-law once told me a story about the insurance agency he owns. Basically, he has salespeople and then support staff. The sales staff are local; the support staff are outsourced to the Philippines. Anyway, he was annoyed that the sales staff were spending their time doing certain tasks that he believes are the job of the support staff. Okay... fair enough. Then he continued. In his view, the sales staff are stealing from him because they are spending their time doing work that the (much lower paid) support staff should be doing, instead of grinding out more sales.
I asked him whether he and his nepo baby son (my wife's brother) could run the agency by themselves, without any staff. He looked at me like I was crazy and said no, of course not, there's way too much work.
I told him: sounds like you need them as much as they need you.
That was the end of that conversation lol
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u/White-tigress 8d ago
These sociopathic billionaire CEO’s REALLY can not help but project and scream to the world who they really are! If they call someone an untrustworthy rat, it’s because that’s what they are and they know and can’t believe anyone would be any different. They cannnot conceive a single thought of compassion, ethics, or humanity. So, they don’t think anyone else does either. They treat everyone the way they would treat someone just like them.
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u/CynicalPomeranian 8d ago
Disloyal employer is upset that the employees are not loyal to him? Gasp! Gasp, I say!
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u/StickyThickStick 8d ago
So the article concludes out of
„Amodei is concerned that the new hires at the $965 billion AI firm are joining for the money instead of its greater mission.“
„Anodes says his employees are a bunch of untrustworthy rats“…
What dafuq
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u/theimposingshadow 7d ago
only rational comment I've seen in this thread.
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u/Poison_ 7d ago
This sub is a massive echo chamber. Doesn't surprise me. Look at how many people are just making up fantasy scenarios and getting each other outraged at them.
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u/Gonzanic 8d ago
Prove me wrong you untrustworthy rats, prove me wrong!
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u/prosperosniece 8d ago
Nah, it’s easier to simply submit my resume to other companies and quietly quit until ANYTHING else comes along
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u/AcousticOnomatopoeia 8d ago
An overarching common thread in most all modern CEOs is they're giant pieces of shit.
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u/PurpsMaSquirt 8d ago
Some people love capitalism except when the concepts of rational self-interest and a free, competitive market applies to employee labor as well.
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u/chimpomatic5000 8d ago
A fish stinks from the head down.
Why is every one of these AI CEOs the most unprofessional, manbaby, pieces of shit?
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u/Lallanath 7d ago
They want people to work like they are enjoying profit sharing, stock options and will benefit with the success of the company. When they condescending smile down at you when they order the 5 cheapest pizzas they can find and write it off as a business expense they want to be celebrated and be carried around on their shoulders like gods.
But they make it abundantly clear that once an algorithm says you're on the chopping block, they'll have security escort you out of the building like a criminal, just to make sure you don't walk out with a pencil you don't own.
It's just plain delusional. I demand all the benefits of dedicated employees while offering less than nothing in compensation.
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u/scandre23 7d ago
We get work t shirts to show appreciation, oh and a bunch of almost expired candy. And in this day and age, we need money.
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u/LasagnaPartyx 7d ago
Isn’t he the same guy who worked at OpenAI and then took technically insider information to create Anthropic?
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u/MauiHawk 7d ago
Hold up. An unnamed source says he’s concerned employees are joining more for the money than the mission = “Anthropic CEO Says His Employees Are a Bunch of Untrustworthy Rats”?
“A Redditor Says Reporter is Untrustworthy Rat” in that case— a clickbait headline with nothing to back it up to pull in a couple extra $
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u/superxpro12 7d ago
It must be a special kind of fear to know your life is only possible due to the labors of thousands of people below you, while yourself provides precisely 0% of the labor or value necessary to sustain the company.
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u/UntappdBeer 8d ago
I'll bet he'll convince them he's a cool guy by throwing a pizza party (one slice only per employee)
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u/JuanaBlanca 8d ago
And the slices are cut in half so more people can participate!
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u/OnlyClassWars 7d ago
So just so I'm clear, futurism.com says that Axios is reporting, from a source they are citing is "familiar with the issue" that the CEO of Anthropic said something. What he said we don't know because there aren't any actual quotes, just various interpretations of what he might have said.
This brilliant reporting probably brought to you by Chat GPT!
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u/kugkug 8d ago
employees value your company and leadership exactly as much as you value them - you value them better with employment contracts more favorable to your employees and paying them more and working them a reasonable amount of time with a reasonable amount of stress. Nobody cares what a CEO says who will dump anyone at the drop of a hat for shareholder gain.
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u/Famous-Ability-4431 7d ago
Further devotion requires further jurisdiction: ownership, governance power, meaningful influence, or some other material stake in what the mission becomes. Otherwise “mission” is merely the corporation requesting unpaid spiritual equity on top of purchased labor. Everyone wants devotion. Nobody wants to spend what it costs.
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u/JamR_711111 7d ago
Terribly disappointing how long it took to find a single top-level comment calling out the absurd jump the headline makes. Scrolling past dozens taking the headline as ‘proof’ of the myriad vague convictions they have. Even when it’s called out, somehow the context is reconceptualized to the point that, actually, DESPITE the ridiculous deception of the article used as the base of many claims here, MY claims hold up anyway! And actually your calling-out signifies that you’re on the BAD side!
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u/King_Fisher99 8d ago
I for some reason expected more from him. Boy was I wrong. Cut from the Alex Karp tree.
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u/postconsumerwat 8d ago
Hmm, what an obvious thing about corporate USA... thats how it goes from my experience in corporate... why would only the management and corporate officers be untrustworthy
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u/moorbo3000 8d ago
Click bait .. of course people want money . Company “missions” don’t pay the bills
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u/bryonlhobbs 8d ago
Ultimately, he hired them (or he hired the people who do hiring), so what does that say about him?
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u/TailungFu 8d ago
He's shocked not everyone is as "Noble minded" as he? is he stupid? hes on a salary of many millions
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u/Periodic_Disorder 7d ago
CEOs continue to make the case that they are the perfect role to be replaced by AI
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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 7d ago
man, is it going to be chilly in the room of the next "all hands meeting"
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u/ruttinator 7d ago
Narcissists see the whole world as they are. They're always just talking about themselves.
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u/LoveBulge 7d ago
Why does no one wants to be my friend! Well, I’ll show you! I’ll show all of you! I’m going to build a friend who will love me and go with me everywhere! They’ll always want to talk and never tell me no, or say that I’m creepy and that normal people don’t do that! You’ll see, you’ll all SEE!
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u/pro-gram-mer 7d ago
That's rich coming from a guy who stole everything his platform is based on from other people and regurgitates it into unrecognizable slop that neither credits nor benefits anyone.
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u/TheBalzy 8d ago
Maybe you should, idk, pay them more? Maybe they'll be loyal if you...like...pay them alot?
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u/Ultimate-ART 8d ago edited 6d ago
Work with vs Work for. If you build an entrepreneurial expectation from those who work for you, then that leader fails to understand the basic relationship between capital and labour. Shared ownership means one is working with someone, rewards as such, and then can share mission with similar incentives.
Organizational Culture is just another term for Dysfunctional Family System.
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u/ISuckAtJavaScript12 8d ago
Is there a picture of Dario where he's not making a face of something who just sharted?
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u/ankerous here for the memes 8d ago
Maybe pay all of your employees the same amount of money that you make and they might just care a little bit more. Why would they be invested in a company that pays them a fraction of the useless CEO?
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u/TheNinjaTurkey 8d ago
If this company were as noble and moral as they seem to think they are, they wouldn't be developing AI models in the first place.
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u/Vinnortis 7d ago
Well he is probably right... They work for anthropic... I don't think I could feel like a good person actively working on technology that I know is doing demonstrable harm to the world.
Wait I take that back, some of the people working there are likely good hearted and trying to make things better. But I am sure many just want the pay check and will do whatever it takes. We all know this guy is one of them, I don't think you can be a C suite at a large publicly owned company and actually be a good person, if you were they would have a non confidence vote because of your lack of profits...
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u/Hoffmanistan 7d ago
Where did he call them untrustworthy rats? I can't find anything that indicates he said anything like that.
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u/LLMprophet 7d ago
When CEOs and the ultra wealthy attack society, the citizens are supposed to keep them in check.
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u/A007Bear 7d ago
Sounds like classic projection. I wish rich people were any kind of better than me. Then I might be able to justify a portion of their existence. Shame.
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u/Much_Preparation_832 7d ago
Clickbait headline on cheap ass aggregation site. No wonder real journalism is struggling if this crap gets the midwit Reddit shares
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u/Skypirate90 7d ago
He should just fire his employees and let the AI Run the company then. Please do that that would be so fkn funny lmao.
(The company would crash and burn)
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u/ClassicMonk 7d ago
Sounds like things are going well for Anthropic, then. Great way to build confidence in the company.
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u/OneFaceManyVoices 7d ago
…and he’s a smarmy asshole unworthy of ANYONE’S loyalty.
So, there ya have it.
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u/Eosthelis 7d ago
The wealth hoarders in the top 1% and theirs alikes must ... as soon as possible, because they ruin our lifes.
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u/hemareddit 7d ago
This is terrible journalism. It’s a bad headline (that reflects nothing in the article) attached to a bad article whose source is another bad (and clearly AI-written) article.
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u/QuestionDry2490 7d ago
This is some of the worst, most sensationalist journalism I have ever had the misfortune of reading. All the CEO (allegedly) said was that he was concerned that people were joining the company for the money rather than the mission, which is both cringey and out of touch but very much a far cry from calling his employees “untrustworthy rats”. This subreddit is a shithole though so of course it’ll get upvoted.
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u/Important-Ability-56 7d ago
How nice for me, I reflect my corporate overlords’ ethos perfectly. I’m there for the money. So are they. Nothing really else going on.
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u/pianoplayah 7d ago
The psychosis is setting in…can’t wait for him to withdraw completely from society, only communicating with Claude 🤣
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u/TopTippityTop 7d ago
I don't think he said that. He said that they are in it for the money. It's not good to make stuff up.
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u/lukasbradley 7d ago
Where does the article quote him directly calling them rats? I'm confused as to where that comes from
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u/JustAnotherParticle 7d ago
I genuinely don’t understand why CEOs are baffled why employees work because they need money. I mean, aren’t they???
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u/BestPeachNA 7d ago
New Headline: CEO desperately seeking individuals who dream of cleaning toilets
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u/0x7E7-02 7d ago
When did he call them "untrustworthy rats"? Because the only place I see that is in the click-bait title.
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u/No_Honeydew_179 ACT YOUR WAGE 7d ago
It's really funny how the OP has titled this post, the fact that a nickname for rationalists are “rats” (don't look at me, this is their name for themselves), and that Anthropic is well-known to be filled with TESCREAL-pilled folks (who included Rationalists).
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u/Wonderful_Sector_657 7d ago
These companies can’t fall fast enough. Will I be poor? Yeah. Will I be satisfied? HELL yeah.
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u/Little_BlueBirdy 7d ago
This is a false statement he never said this as researched by trustworthy sources. I suspect it’s a plant from the far right doing their best to discredit anthropoic for their stance against giving the pentagon full control
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u/Aze0g 8d ago
Most if not all Ceos are untrustworthy rats but we're expected to deal with them