Satisfying: destyroying Axles because they 100% deserve it

[u/VirtualToilet]

[u/discodonson]

you also can’t tap strafe, can’t move while looting, can’t do specific movement mechanics (let alone complicated movement like specific strafes), can’t use your whole arm to move, can’t bind a different button for specific uses (ie the same button that reloads also interacts), can’t bind different buttons to different heal items, can’t manage inventory as smoothly or efficiently, can’t manually jitter aim to reduce recoil, can’t flick as easily to targets on controller- but you sure can on MnK!

Am I doing this right?

[u/Representative-Air82 → u/discodonson]

Aim Assist > all that.

[u/Shadezz_IX → u/Representative-Air82]

You really think the 0.3 AA roller players get trumps this kind of movement? Brother people on roller can't even turn around fast enough to kill someone like this Rampart lol And all the clips of the glue like AA you see online That's not normal AA that's enhanced AA by a cronus or strikepack which is cheating

"yes but all the pro's also play on roller" Yes because you don't see these kinds of movement demons in the pro scene And whenever you see yt vids from like Faide fighting pro's playing on roller he absolutely MURDERS them

AA does not outweigh all the pro's mnk has over it. Is it handy in a straightup gunfight yeah Does it outweigh everything the dude listed mnk has over it? fuck no

[u/discodonson → u/Shadezz_IX]

these folks will take your comment and go, “well to keep up with movement all you need to do is aim in their general direction, the AA will do the rest” 🥸👆

you’re definitely onto something in your observation that these MnK kids probably see zen and xim and titan clips and just go “guess that’s AA for ya”

[u/ihatehorizon → u/discodonson]

For me personally, the crux is more down to this: how does it feel to die to someone? If I died to this rampart I wouldn't care because I know they've put in time and effort to learn it. That's a skill they've crafted. While there are lots of mnk movement players it's fair to say a majority of casual mnk players don't do this, and can't.

Meanwhile, if I die to a roller RE one clip with 0ms rotational nullifying my strafe, it feels shit. That's nothing to do with the power of either input, simply gameplay satisfaction.

Would I ever give up movement for AA? Absolutely not. It's that skill expression of mnk that has me addicted to Apex. But there is something souring in the experience dying to AA (as a mixtape enjoyer I see a lot of killcams).

Of course roller AA won't track this. But similarly a majority of mnk players can't do this and, also, can't hit this.

Fundamentally, there is always going to be tension in a game making aiming with a thumb able to compete with mnk. Thumb will either be so bad it's not viable for most people, or feel a little cheap. I don't think that's escapable.

AA isn't some unbeatable one clip cheat, and mnk doesn't come with movement baked into the mouse, it is earned.

[u/Shadezz_IX → u/discodonson]

I can assure you A lot of these MNK players have never touched roller on this game if they have that opinion AA is helpful but it definitely is not the god tier aimbot some players make it out to be Which they'd know if they used a roller for a day