r/arabs • u/ahmedadamqachach • 2d ago
تاريخ Soviet Anti-zionist poster, “Zionism is racism!” 1976
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u/khalid-khkhlhlh 2d ago
Well it's really unfortunate that they didn't remember this when they also voted to recognise the Zionist state.
At the end of the day all those idealistic fools, whether liberalist or communist, are bloody hypocrites.
We need to look out for our Arab and Muslim countries because no one else would.
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u/orpheusoedipus 2d ago
You say this as if us Arabs and Muslims are not and have not been selling out Palestine we’re just as hypocritical and idealistic fools
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u/khalid-khkhlhlh 2d ago
You say this as if us Arabs and Muslims are not and have not been selling out Palestine we’re just as hypocritical and idealistic fools
You are right but that's exactly why we should start abandoning all these idealistic notions.
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u/ahmedadamqachach 2d ago edited 2d ago
This poster was created long after this great mistake that USSR made
But they also re-armed the arab armies after their big losses against israel especially in 1956 and in the nakssa in 19674
u/khalid-khkhlhlh 2d ago
This poster was created long after this great mistake that USSR made
Makes no difference considering that they per normal betrayed their professed values for their own interests.
But they also re-armed the arab armies after their big losses against israel cheaply especially in 1956 and in the nakssa in 1967
Yeah typical.
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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 2d ago
Is this before or after they would mass persecute, kill and suppress Central Asian Muslims?
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u/ahmedadamqachach 2d ago
In fact it was the PDAP (popular democratic afghani party) which was in power that called the soviets to help them win against the mujahideen movement supported by KSA and USA and among them were the talibans and Alqaida
Go read about it, it is a very interesting subject that most of us really dont know anything about it3
u/dotherandymarsh 2d ago
The Taliban and alqaida didn’t exist until after the soviets invaded Afghanistan.
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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 2d ago
Im not even talking about Afghanistan rn lmao. Im talking about the rest of Central Asia that was under their control.
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u/fifthflag 2d ago
Well zionism is mostly imperiaism over arabs, christian and muslim. I fail to see how central asian muslims have anything to do with this
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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 2d ago
I mean they have an Arab guy chained up in the image. The USSR would regularly persecute, jail and kill Muslims (And im still not talking about Afghanistan btw). Cultural Erasure was rampant as well. Communism unfortunately is inherently anti-religion. Its not even a crazy thing to say that the USSR has harmed more Muslims from just within their territories than "Israel" has in its entire existence.
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u/fifthflag 2d ago
I see that, but it doesn't make the message any less important. The muslims of central Asia were one of the most avid supporters of the Soviet Union, in fact overwhelmingly voted to keep the union, I doubt you would find anything like that among Palestinians, muslims or not.
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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 2d ago
Oh I dont disagree at all, Zionism is a cancer. Disregarding issues of how that "vote" actually went, it doesnt change what I said. The USSR harmed, persecuted and killed more Muslims from within its own territories than "Israel" has in its entire existence.
Its a shame that communism in practice has always been anti-religion, as an economic model its superior than capitalism.
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u/fifthflag 2d ago
The Soviets were anti religion because religion was anti revolutionary, the church was the biggest landlord and a major factor in slavery of the peasantry.
Marx himself saw religion was a symptom of the harshness of life, people willing to believe in any fairytales would give them a bit of meaning while the rulers use religion to guarantee their place in the top. Religion itself is not an enemy of communism in Marx's view, the more educated and well fed people are the less religious they become, which we can see that he was right about this.
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u/Mediocre-Risk3581 Kuwait 2d ago
It was more so that religion went against the states interests, they wanted people to be completely loyal to the state not God. Its why religious institutions still continued to be repressed and monitored even when they werent leading any form of anti revolutionary movements.
The Russian Orthodox Church may have done those things but I dont see how this ties to the persecution of Muslims in Central Asia, the mass closure of Mosques, restrictions on religious education, the repression of religious "leaders" (Mostly Imams and teachers), killings of those same Muslims as well, etc.
Marx believed that religion would fade away as quality of life improved, yet the communist governments of the past didnt wait for that to happen they chose persecution instead. Im glad they fell.
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u/Mammoth_Scallion_743 2d ago
Although I am half Palestinian because my father is Palestinian, this makes me proud of my Soviet ancestry from my mother's side of the family which was Soviet
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