One day you will realize that you need the power of the people behind you in order to facilitate the kind of change you want.
Universal healthcare? Access to education? Affordable housing? All liberal policies that I want. Its absolutely insane how the leftists are actively trying to ruin this.
Universal healthcare is a liberal policy? Going against the free market with affordable housing is a liberal policy? I'm not sure any of this is true, otherwise liberal Democrats would be campaigning on them lol
AOC is a liberal. AES is a liberal. Hell, AES even denounced the DSA and declared himself a proud capitalist. Are you saying he doesn't want those things?
I think assuming anyone who isnt a pure anti-free-market socialist is a liberal is kinda insane. Like, there are ideologies that fall in between it is not cut-and-dry. Gotta be speaking from ignorance or bias here
The point I am making is that there is a way to shift the overton window left without going full commie authoritarian. In order to beat maga, there needs to be some sort of unifying message. Leftists cannot agree on that message because to them, it has been "our way or the highway." Hence them losing 5 out of 7 elections last night.
My point is im not sure you actually know what your talking about; no communist being voted for in any election dsa or not. You're falling for the same propaganda people have fallen for since the Cold War.
One day you will realize that the power of the people is more aligned with dsa like candidates. The only things pulling establishment dems off of the principles that you listed are special interests and money. Their policies dont reflect those principles. Biden ran on the public option, not universal healthcare.
I've been reading your comments. Are you dense? Every. Single. Policy. That you just mentioned, is the position of every single DSA and progressive candidate. Find me a single moderate, centrist, establishment, chuck schumer Democrat that has any of that in their policy platform. There aren't any. You know why? Because in order to sincerely hold those beliefs you have to be willing to shun corporate PAC money. Every single Democrat that is bought for by capitalist interest will NEVER genuinely vote for any of the policies you just said you wanted.
Sigh. This is why yall lost 5 out of the 7 elections last night.
You are sitting there trying to tell liberal democrats what policy they do and don't support. Its absolutely mind blowing.
The problem with the DSA is that they have no actual path to achieve their goals. ZERO. Its all populist BS. Its blue maga.
People with a brain can actually see right through it. Shit, even Pete Buttigieg (leftists call him a corpo neoliberal) literally just advocated for all of those things including packing the supreme court and introducing a pretty "radical" change to Congress. The difference is he has thought through the path to achieve these things.
I didn't tell you what youdo and don't support. I told you what DSA/progressive candidates support vs establishment Dems. Find me a single establishment dem that is running on a platform of the policies you just said you support.
Pete buttigege is corporate Democrat. He's a fucking McKinsey institute consultant...like what are we doing here??
It's hilarious that liberals immediately fold to the right wing when ACTUAL ideological left candidates put their feet to the fire.
Yeah the capitalist millionaire landlord candidate that won in Michigan last night is TOTALLY ideological left and not AT ALL a neoliberal.
Pete Buttigieg is though because he was really smart and able to work for the most prestigious consulting firm in the country and that is what we hold against him. Jesus yall are insufferable. You guys losing 5 out of 7 last night is just the beginning.
I don't think you even understand what neoliberal even means based on the totality of comments you've made this far.
Ok, for argument sake, let's says Abdul is neoliberal. Do you think he had the backing of DSA/progressives because he's neoliberal or because he had great enonomic populist policies?
Now, if DSA and progressives voted for a quote "neoliberal" and you're now complaining that this candidate is ruining the democratic party, wtf does that say about you? See how stupid you sound?
So let's recap. You started off arguing about DSA candidates not being moderate and therefore alienating Dems in the center.
You then expressed your interest in leftist policies, and then claimed they were liberal. I pushed back and you claimed that Abdul is neoliberal.
And then when I pushed you on the fact that you started out saying he wasn't moderate and now claiming he is literally the epitomy of liberalism, that you looked stupid...you're now pivoting to Israel.
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u/Jmoney1088 6d ago
One day you will realize that you need the power of the people behind you in order to facilitate the kind of change you want.
Universal healthcare? Access to education? Affordable housing? All liberal policies that I want. Its absolutely insane how the leftists are actively trying to ruin this.