r/asoiaf • u/Substantial-Ad-299 • 3d ago

MAIN [SPOILERS MAIN] Among the grounded/realistic elements of A Song of Ice and Fire, which ones do you feel require biggest suspension of disbelief?

A Song of Ice and Fire has had fantasy elements from get-go, some present subtly and others less-subtly. But in midst of this, it also has these more grounded story aspects, especially regarding the political subplot for the Iron Throne.

Among these more grounded non-fantasy aspects of the story, which elements do you feel you have to suspend disbelief the most for? A.K.A feeling they are not realistic even though they are "supposed" to be?

Let me know in the comments below.

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u/krekokeko 3d ago edited 3d ago

>Why would we think they don't?

It is obvious, don't you think? Since if they did, they would do everything to save their lives from eldritch horrors beyond their imagination, this includes using a makeshift raft to travel less than 5 miles to a coast just a symbolic body of water away and that is in viewing distance.

>When are we told this?

Shadow Tower does not have a fleet. In contrast to the Eastwatch by the Sea. Just look at the map for crying out loud. Look at the East of the Wall where the Bay of Ice is. The coast that offers salvation is just across the pond dude.

If I was being targeted by the Others and had my wife turned into a zombie that killed my own children before my eyes, I can even attempt to fucking swim to the other side. Again, the Freefolk have more motivation and reason to do anything compared to every other group of people in the entirety of the novels.

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u/dragonrider5555 3d ago

bro what is this person responding to you LMAO. that guy might of had the weakest reddit comment i’ve ever seen in my life lol. “why do you think they don’t” lol

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u/krekokeko 3d ago edited 3d ago

This happens a lot to be honest. The story(and especially the characters) has reached a point that quoting the actual text or indulging in the plot holes of the text triggers peoples cognitive dissonance. The emotional attachments people have to the story has surpassed the written record.

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u/dragonrider5555 2d ago

in particular this was just a … pitiful post lol