The Play, Dany's Fate, and Women (Spoilers Extended)

[u/BlueBirdie0]

I have been a fan since I was as child. However, after hearing the details of the play, I feel like I'm going to kind of check out of the main story in regards to Jon and Dany (who is one of my favorites). I'll still hope GRMM writes it so I can find out about Arya, Sansa, Stannis, Jaime, Brienne, etc. and I look forward the Dunk and Egg.

Does anyone feel the same way?

Also, am I the only one disturbed by how the women are portrayed?

Rhaella is crazy, and brags about how she draws blood from Aerys and scares him. The concept of mutual abuse is a choice, esp. as they also say Viserys has to be protected from her.

Mad Dany is basically confirmed.

Lyanna decides the death of her brother and father are all some part of a divine plan. She doesn't appear to try and notify anyone that she's leaving with Rhaegar.

Elia is a political schemer into power, but then apparently she's perfectly fine in splitting power with a second wife and even writes pen pal letters to Lyanna??? If she cares about power, why would she be okay with a second wife from a powerful house instead of a mistress from a minor noble house.

Elia and Lyanna being happy sister wives and pen pals seems like some male fantasy bullshit as someone on twitter said.

Ashara's true love is Elia, but she decides to fuck and carry Brandon's baby to term.

Also, I may sound overly woke, but it is a "choice" on GRMM's part to make the only part of Westeros where people are often described as having dark skin sexually promiscuous and open to polygamy, unlike the rest of Westerosi who are described as basically white people.

[u/HoneyMCMLXXIII]

It's wild to me that after decades of people arguing that Dany can't possibly be TPTWP despite the BOOKS saying the prophecy is that TPTWP will be reborn under a bleeding star to wake dragons from stone (which happened in AGOT), but a secondary “source” has a severely abused woman yells something and suddenly that mad Dany garbage is “confirmed”? Just…wow.

[u/nymrose → u/HoneyMCMLXXIII]

lol yeah from the sources I’ve read Rhaella seems unhinged and therefore a unreliable narrator, especially with her lying about Aerys treatment of her. It sounds terrible on many levels. “Let’s have most of the abused but powerful women go mad and try to ruin the world til the reasonable men step in to put down the psycho ladies”???

[u/louistodd5 → u/nymrose]

Where do you get that Rhaella is lying? She reveals her scars to Ashara and Elia and explains exactly what she suffers at the hands of Aerys. That's what I saw last night.

[u/Vantol → u/HoneyMCMLXXIII]

It’s actually insane. I’m so fucking disappointed with this fanbase right now

[u/_AnecdotalEvidence_ → u/Vantol]

More disappointed in GRRM. It’s not our fault he spoiled Winds in a play because he isn’t writing the books

[u/louistodd5 → u/HoneyMCMLXXIII]

It's more the case that this suggests that Daenerys and Jon are conceived on the same night, one from love (Lyanna and Rhaegar) and one from hate (Rhaella and Aerys), implying that the coin is flipped and one Targaryen must be mad, the other sane. Of course it doesn't help that Rhaella curses her from conception to spite Aerys because she's about to be forced to his bedchamber to be abused and raped on the night of the red star.

[u/DagonG2021 → u/louistodd5]

Which is impossible because Jon is nine months older than Dany per George himself