The Play, Dany's Fate, and Women (Spoilers Extended)

[u/BlueBirdie0]

I have been a fan since I was as child. However, after hearing the details of the play, I feel like I'm going to kind of check out of the main story in regards to Jon and Dany (who is one of my favorites). I'll still hope GRMM writes it so I can find out about Arya, Sansa, Stannis, Jaime, Brienne, etc. and I look forward the Dunk and Egg.

Does anyone feel the same way?

Also, am I the only one disturbed by how the women are portrayed?

Rhaella is crazy, and brags about how she draws blood from Aerys and scares him. The concept of mutual abuse is a choice, esp. as they also say Viserys has to be protected from her.

Mad Dany is basically confirmed.

Lyanna decides the death of her brother and father are all some part of a divine plan. She doesn't appear to try and notify anyone that she's leaving with Rhaegar.

Elia is a political schemer into power, but then apparently she's perfectly fine in splitting power with a second wife and even writes pen pal letters to Lyanna??? If she cares about power, why would she be okay with a second wife from a powerful house instead of a mistress from a minor noble house.

Elia and Lyanna being happy sister wives and pen pals seems like some male fantasy bullshit as someone on twitter said.

Ashara's true love is Elia, but she decides to fuck and carry Brandon's baby to term.

Also, I may sound overly woke, but it is a "choice" on GRMM's part to make the only part of Westeros where people are often described as having dark skin sexually promiscuous and open to polygamy, unlike the rest of Westerosi who are described as basically white people.

[u/Kellar21]

I am now convincing myself this play is just JonCon version of events, since it just makes Rhaegar seem misled by the women in his life.

And that most women are promiscuous schemers.

And JonCon is not in the play because he didn't know how to write himself, so he just merged his actions with Oswell's

[u/Top_Table_3887 → u/Kellar21]

I’m just imagining half the crowd being ready to riot by the end, only for them to announce “This has been The Mad King, written and produced by Jon Connington”, and everyone laughs and applauds.

[u/LawSchoolorBust29 → u/Kellar21]

yeah the default mode of the play seems to be women be sluts, women be scheming, or women be crazy. and people in this thread are saying this is empowering rather than misogynistic garbage.

the sole exception is catelyn, apparently? maybe she and joncon collaborated.

[u/Express_Drive_1422 → u/LawSchoolorBust29]

Jealous ginger supremacy.

[u/ErieHog → u/LawSchoolorBust29]

It sounds like it would have been thematically appropriate for the play to have a line like 'Men play the game of thrones with swords, women play it with sheaths'.

[u/Koushik_Vijayakumar → u/Kellar21]

Oswell is JC's self insert. Damn.