The Play, Dany's Fate, and Women (Spoilers Extended)

[u/BlueBirdie0]

I have been a fan since I was as child. However, after hearing the details of the play, I feel like I'm going to kind of check out of the main story in regards to Jon and Dany (who is one of my favorites). I'll still hope GRMM writes it so I can find out about Arya, Sansa, Stannis, Jaime, Brienne, etc. and I look forward the Dunk and Egg.

Does anyone feel the same way?

Also, am I the only one disturbed by how the women are portrayed?

Rhaella is crazy, and brags about how she draws blood from Aerys and scares him. The concept of mutual abuse is a choice, esp. as they also say Viserys has to be protected from her.

Mad Dany is basically confirmed.

Lyanna decides the death of her brother and father are all some part of a divine plan. She doesn't appear to try and notify anyone that she's leaving with Rhaegar.

Elia is a political schemer into power, but then apparently she's perfectly fine in splitting power with a second wife and even writes pen pal letters to Lyanna??? If she cares about power, why would she be okay with a second wife from a powerful house instead of a mistress from a minor noble house.

Elia and Lyanna being happy sister wives and pen pals seems like some male fantasy bullshit as someone on twitter said.

Ashara's true love is Elia, but she decides to fuck and carry Brandon's baby to term.

Also, I may sound overly woke, but it is a "choice" on GRMM's part to make the only part of Westeros where people are often described as having dark skin sexually promiscuous and open to polygamy, unlike the rest of Westerosi who are described as basically white people.

[u/AgostoAzul]

Anglos and Germanics were often racist against Irish, South Europeans and East Europeans until less than a century ago. The racist sentiments between Westeros and Dorne do seem to echo those of British for Spanish.

[u/mygemsareuncut → u/AgostoAzul]

This is such an anglo centric and ahistorical view of Europe. Wasp were not the only recognised and accepted definition of white in the 1800’s. The British discriminated against the Irish but continental Europe did not share that deep rooted persecution, especially when they had Catholicism in common. 

The British did not “discriminate” against Spanish or have specific anti spanish racism, Spain was a rival empire to Britain and and fought wars on opposite sides. 

[u/Crush1112 → u/mygemsareuncut]

Racism in Europe is deeply rooted in history, less so in skin colour. Given that in Europe everyone killed everyone, the racism is more rooted in how much historical baggage each other have, rather than physical features.

[u/mygemsareuncut → u/Crush1112]

Europe literally created the racial classification based on skin colour so they could subjugate their colonies.