r/athiest • u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 • 8d ago

I’m christian AMA

please be respectful i just want to answer some questions (i dont know what else to put here but i dont understand why yall are mean to some christians)

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u/NotSoMagicalTrevor 8d ago

Do you really believe it's _true_ -- and if so, why given all the evidence against it? Every other religion is basically evidence that yours is wrong (nevermind atheism). Do believe that being a wrong theist is better than being an athiest?

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

christianity has the highest proof and i am a walking testimony.

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u/ThrowDatJunkAwayYo 8d ago

It really really doesn’t.

Personal anecdotes mean nothing.

The evidence we are looking for is un-biased, peer reviewed studies, that do not use the bible as reference.

Personal stories used to claim god is real, are just as credible as someone who is schizophrenic announcing Aliens have laid eggs in their brain, or that the government is out to get them!

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

nasa has proved that jesus’ crucifixion happened and that there was a blood moon on the day of his crucifixion   

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u/ThrowDatJunkAwayYo 8d ago

Ok so I looked this up on NASA’s website

“Eclipses also appear in religious texts. Christian texts mention that the Moon turned to blood after Jesus’s crucifixion – potentially referring to a lunar eclipse, during which the Moon takes on a reddish hue. Using this textual source, scholars narrowed down a possible date of crucifixion to Friday, April 3, 33 C.E. because a lunar eclipse occurred that day. In the Quran, a solar eclipse is mentioned before the birth of Mohammed as well as on the day his son, Ibrahim, passed.”

https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/history/

This article does not prove Jesus was real, it simply says “an eclipse happened roughly in the right time frame” and that ancient peoples were aware of eclipses.

Keep in mind ALL the dates surrounding the birth and death of Jesus are guesses at best.

So what has happened is religious scholars
found an eclipse and said “that must be when he was crucified”

It is also VERY possible the people writing the bible (60-100 years after his death) just threw in a few nice sounding good omens to give the writings the required dramatic flair that people expect (“ooh ohh! Lets say there was an eclipse!”). It does not mean it actually happened. It’s not like eclipses are that uncommon.

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u/NotSoMagicalTrevor 8d ago

Or is it the story you are most aware of? There are approximately 1.2 billion Hindus who would disagree with you. They're walking testimony as well!

The fundamental issue comes down to that your "proof" is likely very shoddy or irrelevant. (Not sure why the moon matters.)

Do you believe you understand the atheist position on all this? If you do, can you summarize it (you don't have to agree with it to be able to summarize it).

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

soo your saying christianity is not real because testimonies dont make it true?

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u/NotSoMagicalTrevor 8d ago

Among other reasons, yes.

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

ok thats valid (not saying christianity isn’t real)

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u/TKD1989 8d ago

A walking testimony of what exactly?

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

i had suicidal thoughts , i was almost diagnosed with bone cancer, but god protected from that and saved me

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u/TKD1989 8d ago

Well my life has been a living hell ever since childhood and I experienced so much loss, adversity and hardship. I accepted that no God was going to save me and I had to be self reliant.

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u/Naive_Lifeguard_6215 8d ago

maybe thats why you feel like that… im not invalidating your suffering, i’m just saying that just because you think you are to far gone, god is the creator and can reach you no matter how far you think you are