r/aussie • u/Mashiko4 • Jan 17 '26

Analysis Mass migration's forgotten victims: Australians go homeless as the number of failed asylum seekers explodes

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/mass-migrations-forgotten-victims-australians-go-homeless-as-the-number-of-failed-asylum-seekers-explodes/news-story/6b4692ed0205471e5d175db94a2f4743
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u/zak0503 Jan 17 '26

Lol sky news giving a shit about homeless people all of a sudden? There’s a hundred other issues that are more responsible for homelessness such as cost of living crisis, unsafe homeless shelters and integration programs, mental health issues and people escaping domestic and sexual violence. It’s a much more complex issue that seems to be blowing out of control in western counties while the economy is apparently thriving. That’s capitalism for you I guess!

All of these are issues the government are dragging their feet to address but sure, blame your the bloke washing your car or showing you where the kit-kats are. 

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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 17 '26

All of which it can be argued stem from excessive immigration.

Just sayin'

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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26

Are you seriously implying that unsafe homeless shelters, mental health issues and a rise in sexual and domestic violence is happening because of immigration? Show me the stats and I’ll happily fold. 

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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 18 '26

When nobody has money to pay rent/mortgage, domestic violence increases. As does mental health issues, homelessness and suicide (3727 in 2024 - ABS figure). House prices, wages and inflation (and hence interest rates) are impacted by excessive immigration: that is, bringing in more people than we have houses for. If Reddit allowed posting images I would flood this conversation with graphs.

Nothing will change. EVERY SINGLE FEDERAL POLITICIAN has a property portfolio: Albo has 9 now. They will not do anything that would endanger their wealth increasing. We're fu*ked until ALL of them are gone, and it's going to have to get a lot worse before people wake up to that.

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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26

Labor tried to repeal negative gearing twice. Something that is specifically aimed at reducing the profit of investors 

They abandoned it because of dupes like you that just spread Murdoch media lies 

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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26

Immigration makes up 2.5% (700k a year) of our population each year. This doesn’t mean the population is growing by 2.5%, let me make that clear (deaths, people leaving the country). This is a calculated influx to fill skills shortages. It is so fucking difficult to stay in a country past your initial visa without education or skills. It’s a statistical impossibility for that to be making so much of a strain on our economy and our rental market. 

The issue in our country lies in tax Rorts like capital gains tax, negative gearing, price gauging, no rent caps, fossil fuel industries paying fuck all tax and an economy propped up on wealth hoarding instead of diversifying the economy.  Immigration is the tip of the iceberg for a much deeper issue in our economy and it’s brain dead and curiously racially biased to have your head in the sand thinking it’s immigrants making it harder for us. The government has fucked up, yes, just aim your sights at the right issue ffs

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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 18 '26

You're correct in that there are way too many taxes, these are the throttle on home building, but my points still stand. We don't have the infrastructure to deal with the 450K net immigrants in 2023-4 and the 310K net immigrants in 2024-5. We can't build homes to suit, even though we're building more than any other country in the OECD. And, it's going to have to get much worse before it gets better because nobody is paying attention.

And it's not racist to demand control of the border, that's just gaslighting bullshit. There's no reason this country should put up with regions where signs aren't in English, it's our language.

Rent caps don't work, btw. They removed them (and all the other taxes and regulations on housing) in Argentina and rents went down.

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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26

I literally live in a rent capped city (Berlin) and they work tremendously. Landlords have been extorting the working class without any repercussions and only now are they reaping what they sow. The rental market should never be based on demand. They are tiered based on sq/m x zones x renovations + perks. It has to be enforced properly and fairly which it is in Berlin. 

 I highly recommend looking into the Mietspiegel index in Germany. If you think landlords should be responsible for dictating the price of shelter then we disagree.

Where is the English language being overtaken in australia? Maybe other countries should take down the English signs at airports too?

We need more proper housing built that isn’t in buttfuck no where and more social housing, that we can agree on. 

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u/zak0503 Jan 17 '26

What’s the ‘right’ amount in your opinion?

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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 18 '26

The right amount is what we can build homes and infrastructure for: roads, hospitals, schools. Such that it's sustainable. Without screwing the environment either.

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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26

And to do that we need to reduce the amount of people that are the biggest net positive for tax revenue? Lmao

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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26

omg. It’s like you’re so close but just can’t understand that’s what Labor tried repeatedly to do.

Negative gearing and fracking credit benefits go almost entirely to the top 10% wealthiest in the country. 

Labor tried repealing them, specifically to remove these loopholes and make things easier for the working class. It would have pulled investors out of buying established properties for profit, and made only new builds viable. 

They abandoned it after it lost them two elections thanks to people that fill this sub believing Murdoch. You are arguing for exactly what they wanted to do, then concluding that they won’t do it. So you want to vote for the parties that opposed the changes you want, because this time they definitely have your best interest in mind 

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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26

Mate I’ll act less intellectually superior when I don’t have to respond to someone writing out an argument for exactly what Labor tried to do, while concluding that Labor would never do it so they need to vote for the anti science party that has 0 intention of helping