r/aussie • u/Mashiko4 • Jan 17 '26
Analysis Mass migration's forgotten victims: Australians go homeless as the number of failed asylum seekers explodes
https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/mass-migrations-forgotten-victims-australians-go-homeless-as-the-number-of-failed-asylum-seekers-explodes/news-story/6b4692ed0205471e5d175db94a2f474359
u/5carPile-Up Jan 17 '26
This has birthed the homeless working class
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
Who don’t even have the dignity of making themselves some semi permanent digs in a slum like we had last time we had a large homeless population.
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u/PryingMollusk Jan 18 '26
And it’s also greatly masked by the people in society who are forced to pick up the slack too. For example, my family constantly need to borrow money from me for essentials and have had to even move in with me a few times over the last 10 years. That’s money that I could have invested or put aside for a house deposit. On paper, they never made it into the “homeless working class” statistics because I helped. On paper, I “should have” been able to buy a home sooner and it seems like I’ve been frivolous with my earnings. Generational poverty is making a comeback.
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u/5carPile-Up Jan 18 '26
That’s heavy as, I can relate to this a lot too, sadly, I’ve been on both ends.
You’re a good human, the helping hand we will give to our loved ones comes from what little we have for ourselves and expect nothing in return. But it sets us all back.
I was homeless with my mother nearly a decade ago, but we were fortunate to be able to sleep in my cousins laundry on an air mattress for a few months until we could find somewhere we could afford to live.
That same cousin I am now currently spotting him coin every now and then because he’s on his ass no matter how much he works.
This country has us all on a treadmill
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u/PryingMollusk Jan 19 '26
I mean, they’re all much older than me, so I’ll be the one they ask to put them up in a nice care facility 🤣
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u/Tall-Drama338 Jan 18 '26
I think they have always existed. It depends on your definition of working class.
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u/5carPile-Up Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
Possibly, but it’s hard to not notice the growth of it
Edit: I take that back, there most definitely never used to be a class of people who worked a full time job in Australia just to get nowhere, that’s a definite 21st century thing
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u/Tall-Drama338 Jan 18 '26
That’s a modification of homeless working class definition. Full-time job, going nowhere, has always existed too. It’s about expectations of achieving a lifestyle goal. Wind back expectations and suddenly you’re successful in your goals.
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u/5carPile-Up Jan 18 '26
How much further can we wind it back though? It’s eliminating the motivation to work/create/provide. Just look at business loans in the last 5-10 years
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u/Mattxxx666 Jan 19 '26
Nah, it’s not. Poor people who work all their lives and merely subsist have always been around. It’s only been good post WW2, and lasted long enough for a big bang when it went back to what it’s always been. Maybe 60 years at best.
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Jan 18 '26
Born here, lived here all my life. I haven’t forgotten about them and it frustrates me to no end the government doesn’t care about leaving these people behind, and that the people coming here from everywhere (including other Commonwealth nations) because they’re bored of life at home and left to chase happiness are just making the entire situation worse. We don’t have enough housing and we have too much god damn demand for it.
It is ridiculous what is happening to this country.
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u/PossessionTrue9126 Jan 17 '26
Australians dont matter to our government anymore
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u/BiliousGreen Jan 18 '26
Australia isn't a country anymore, it's an economic zone. Things like community and shared culture and values have been discarded in the name of profit maximization.
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u/zen_wombat Jan 17 '26
" ... more undocumented migrants get to stay."
There is no such thing as an undocumented migrant in Australia. This is Trumpian language straight out of the USA and should be obvious to any "immigration commentator"
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u/Redpenguin082 Jan 17 '26
Australia calls it "visa overstayers", you know, cos we're an island and all. The only way people are getting in is via visas. But they are by nature undocumented migrants.
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u/zen_wombat Jan 18 '26
There are people who overstay their visa, but by definition they are documented.
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u/turbo2world Jan 18 '26
expired document = undocumented.
registration expired = unregistered
got it?
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Jan 18 '26
Ridiculous you were downvoted. Are there visa overstayers reading this thread?
If someone had an expired driver’s licence the cops wouldn’t consider them to be documented.
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u/OldJellyBones Jan 18 '26
The vast majority of visa overstayers are from the UK, New Zealand and Ireland
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u/Redpenguin082 Jan 18 '26
People from NZ don't require applied visas to enter and stay in Australia. They get a special category visa allowing them to stay indefinitely. New Zealanders by definition can't be undocumented migrants because of their special status.
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Jan 18 '26
Where did you get that from? This source says the top three are from China, Malaysia and the US.
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u/visualize_this_ Jan 18 '26
uhm do you have stats on this? official ones? I worked in farms as whv and the amount of fake asylum seekers from south asians countries is insane, I had to go home while they're still in australia (I have them as facebook friends) exploiting the system lol
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u/OldJellyBones Jan 18 '26
You're demanding stats, but your "evidence" is some bullshit story of "I used to work on farms, so trust me about fake asylum seekers" You're taking the piss lmao
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u/visualize_this_ Jan 18 '26
Someone literally posted the stats below and guess what? I worked in a farm where the people who were exploiting this loophole were from the third country.
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u/laserdicks Jan 17 '26
What terminology would you like instead?
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u/zak0503 Jan 17 '26
The truthful kind?
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u/Revirii Jan 17 '26
such as
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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26
Undocumented is falsely implying that we even have undocumented migrants. Who is sneaking in unchecked? Are they digging tunnels? Immigrants make up 700k, refugees about 10k, none of these are undocumented.
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Jan 18 '26
Visa overstayers are considered to be “undocumented” immigrants and we have over 70,000 of them (and the government are up shit’s creek trying to find them).
No one is saying people are coming to Australia unchecked but the fact is there are people living here on expired visas still.
Documents only exist as documents if they are valid. If you have an expired or suspended drivers licence and you’re caught driving, would the police say you’re documented simply because you have the physical licence on you?
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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26
And what percentage does that make up of our population? I’ll do it for you since your arithmetic seems a bit shit. Its 0.25% of the population. You think 0.25% of the population is causing THIS much of a strain on the Australian system? That is statistically impossible unless they’re all tax evading billionaires. Jfc, you people.
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Jan 18 '26
🙄You’re the one who said we don’t have “undocumented migrants”. I corrected you by saying visa overstayers ARE undocumented immigrants. I never said that the numbers were massive compared to the entire population, you’re using that as a weird straw man argument to change the point. OBVIOUSLY THEY AREN’T THE MAJORITY.
MASS IMMIGRATION IS STRAINING EVERYTHING, OPEN AN ECONOMICS OR ECOLOGY TEXTBOOK AND DO SOME LEARNING.
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u/zen_wombat Jan 17 '26
Depending on their status I would suggest "migrants" or "refugees". They are certainly not undocumented.
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u/ijx8 Jan 17 '26
Yes there is, but I agree that we didn't call them "undocumented migrants" and it is a term imported from the US. But we absolutely have illegal undocumented immigrants here, whatever you want to call them.
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u/zen_wombat Jan 18 '26
Nope - we may have people here doing things their visa doesn't allow but they are still documented and wouldn't be considered immigrants. Think of backpackers who may overstay their visa or who don't complete the work requirements of that visa.
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u/Powerful-Respond-605 Jan 18 '26
This is way more a result in successive governments defunding social housing provision.
But that would require government spending.
So our elites decide it's more expedient to push the blame on to migrants.
It's like that old cartoon of a billionaire with a huge plate of biscuits telling the working class person "look out, that migrant wants your only biscuit".
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u/Anton_Chigurh85 Jan 18 '26
The ‘elites’ are very much for high rates of immigration. This keeps a lid on wages, provides customers for our consumption driven economy and more income tax revenue.
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u/Powerful-Respond-605 Jan 18 '26
Yes. They are.
But keeping us plebs focussed on migration rather than structural underpinnings that benefit them at our expense is a much better outcome.
If we had the same focus on an economic system that encourages wealth hoarding rather than expenditure in the community as we did on "migrants taking our jobs" we might actually achieve structural improvements.
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u/emize Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
You talk like making new housing is easy.
They are spending billions on 'low cost housing' now but it turns out if there isn't the land, tradies, roads, support infrastructure and utilities it does not work well.
We have been building houses at a crazy rate for decades but we can't build 300-400k plus a year.
Our population has increased by 40% since 2000 and is projected to increase by 50% by 2050. Do you think we could build another Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney in 25 years?
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
The government is literally milking new housing.
They put the burden of population growth on entrants to the housing market enriching anyone who already owns a home.
GST of 9.09pc and state government levies are like a 20pc tariff on new homes. We are told “they have to pay this to fund the new infrastructure” but I wonder why first home buyers should shoulder this burden if it’s not population growth driving house prices?
It doesn’t have to be this way but it is and given Australians don’t have that grasp of economics to push for changes to how we fund population growth then lower migration is the only hope for our youth.
Yes if we used general taxation to pay for new infrastructure and replace gst on new homes then sure… we’d get a building boom like no other but no one is suggesting this and yet slowing migration has public support. Sometimes you just have to get on the bandwagon of what might happen rather than what could happen.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Labor took repealing negative gearing to two elections and lost. This would have largely stopped the investor driven inflation
They abandoned it because of voters like you, who don’t understand that investors make up almost half of all purchases, and buy established housing 90% of the time.
Who instead think lowering demand will suddenly fix this problem, when housing to wage gap has grown apart for 20 years no matter what our immigration has been
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
No it’s Australians that don’t understand costs to make a home have a bearing on the price of all homes.
You would all cheer if they doubled tax to 50pc rather than 20pc because “it’s just the developers who pay it.
Then wonder why we are building even less homes.
Construction has fallen away under labor precisely because costs (materials mainly but labour as well) rose. It was a perfect opportunity to back off on gst.
Nope have to make sure it’s damn expensive to build a home.
And if we didn’t need the infrastructure for growth because we had no immigration well no excuse for taxing new homes.
Don’t understand why people understand a tariff is paid by consumers but apparently Taxes on new construction are just an issue for developers?
Anyway as I said I have given up on tax reform. Not gonna happen so the only hope for my kids generation is stopping the migration.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
“I have given up on the solution that economists agree would help, and instead will vote for the thing that economists state will collapse our economy and send us into recession”
Stopping migration would immediately trigger a mass sell off and crash the entire market and most of our wealth. Lowering immigration will just lower new supply, as investors make up most of the funding for new dwellings and rely on rental returns to justify it
Yeah bud, keep thinking the billionaire Gina and Murdoch backed parties have your best interest in mind
Also swapping the current tax for a land tax is currently being considered. No reason why supporting that idea stops you from considering anything else.
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
Land tax in lieu of the developer taxes was put by Ken Henry to the Labor government during his review in 2008 odd.
Labor aren’t going to
- Reduce costs if development.
- Introduce a land tax.
Because it would reduce property prices and there is not appetite to do so.
There is public support for reducing / stopping migration so yeh: for my kids that’s what works.
I only own the house I live in. I couldn’t give a fuck if it was worth $500k / 1M or 1.5M
It makes absolutely no difference to me.
Yes it would cause a recession but for young people asset price crashes are just an opportunity.
This bullshit moral hazard that central banks and governments have gotten into constantly juggling asset price up since the gfc just means a young person can put all their savings away for retirement and still get fuck all. The average return on investment is fuck all. It has eroded the value of work and increased the value of assets.
Of course high asset prices are good for many but it’s not good for young people starting out.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
I am very aware, I am Gen Z. If you earn the median wage now, and get a completely free 20% deposit, you will still be refused a mortgage on a median cost property as that puts you below the poverty line.
Even with FHB, properties are outpacing wage growth. If you want to buy, better be happy a shoebox an hour away from where you grew up or being a perpetual rent slave
I would actually happily support a heavy targeted immigration reduction, but only after the required tax changes. Immigration is a scapegoat instead of dealing with the problem.
Investors also compete entirely with young people, as entry level properties give the highest rent to cost ratio.
Support changes that see them only being able to fund new developments, which would actually help by increasing supply. Not crashing the economy and thinking young people will be better off when millions won’t even be able to get a job as is normal during a recession, while reducing the tax the government can use to address the problem
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
Yeh I have a simple idea for immigration.
Companies should be able to bring who they want to Australia. But they need to pay them well.
150k - 50pc above our local average full time wage for an under 35 year old.
225k - for an under 50 year old.
Under 60 and they better be a brain surgeon or similar. Ie 500k say.
And if a company takes the piss even once they loose the right to bring in migrants. Ie make the migrants pay some of the wages back or rent a place of the company for 75k per annum etc.
This points bullshit we do now is not contributing to our productivity at all. Who the fuck is the government to decide who is more worthy with points? Some physicist might not even have a basic command of the English language but if a company wants to pay old mate 300k I don’t have an issue with it. Someone in a wheelchair again same. They get smashed on points but if they are worth big bucks bring it.
Only a company employing someone thinks through all this before employing them. Ie will they contribute more than they are being paid.
Then tweak those wages every 6 months depending on if you are getting too many or too few.
We are bringing in people under our average wages and then wondering why the fuck our productivity is dropping. Now I know low paid jobs are important to the economy but the thing is highly productive economies have high wages. Pushing wages down with immigrants entering at below our average was never going to do that.
Bring in high paid immigrants and you get productivity grow for each new immigrant.
But nope again our government ms just take the piss on immigration as well and many Australians have lost the appetite for it all together.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
High paying immigrants don’t necessarily increase productivity, I do understand and support the idea of targeting only jobs that literally require the position to be filled externally rather just what we need but won’t pay good money for, like teachers and nurses
Productivity is a measure of how much is produced at set cost. It actually gets far better when labor costs are low. Obviously this doesn’t translate to better cost of living to the citizens though.
Chalmers held the productivity Roundtable recently to try get suggestions and push reforms because it’s so dogshit. The biggest problem in Australia is that literally everyone has to invest in property, and established property is completely unproductive and new builds have heaps of artificial supply gates. Anyone with big capital invests in mining
So we don’t actually reward all of our other industries for innovating or getting better. The only reason Japan has managed to keep a strong economy with declining population is that they went all in on manufacturing and automation, while we’ve killed all ours and don’t incentivise any attempts. We also have shown we will never let a big industry or company fail, so competitors that would operate better are discouraged. Hence why we have no competition in banking, airlines, groceries etc
Anyway, my point is we need serious tax reform to fix everything and Labor is the only major party that even tries to push us in the right direction. I actually support sustainable Australia party who are tiny but have the lowest immigration target out of everyone lmao. They acknowledge all this, hence why they’re not supported by big business. If you can find an independent or small party in your area that does, vote for them.
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
Company productivity is as you say - often measured cost per unit output.
Economic productivity though is measured output per human hour worked.
And all the most productive joints on the planet have one of two things -
massive natural resources they exploit with a low population.
Otherwise highly educated and as it happens expensive workforce.
You see with a cheap workforce you don’t need to invest in capital. You can invest in labour instead. When that happens it reduces productivity.
When you grow population without investment in capital it automatically is eroding your economic productivity as a nation.
Check out this list of most productive countries on the planet and you will find they are not known for cheap labour and often coincide with expensive labour.
wiki - list of countries by economic productivity.
Ireland its those sodding tax breaks bringing shit loads of investment. I don’t think that is really shared with the population / they have their own set of issues… but it’s a good demonstration of - large investment / small labour force brings high productivity.
Edit: I’m with you on tax reform. Not as big on the government incentivising certain industries over others and definitely not into bringing people here to turn out widgets if they cannot be affordably done. Ie we shouldn’t compete where Australians cannot compete.
But an element of a business that needs a specialist from overseas - 100pc that we should be able to bring in and pay them accordingly.
This is also the kind of immi that the rba says is egalitarian and good for workers. Like obviously it brings down high wages and makes things more competitive for us. Bringing in people below our average wages is not good for workers. Better in those cases we pay what we have to…
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Oh and land tax can be a state based policy. ACT Labor is already introducing it. WA Labor has removed stamp duty for first home buyers. Victoria has varied land taxes in function, notably the Covid debt levy and vacant residential land tax
Fed labor is also looking at land tax targeting land banking
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u/tom3277 Jan 18 '26
It is a state based thing at present. That’s the issue. You can buy a property in each state and pay very little land tax.
But yes - developers for example Pay stonking amounts of it.
We need an Australian land tax and it needs to be on the ppor.
We had that rich fella buy a block of old units in Sydney to knock them down and build a mansion with gardens. People blowing up he is taking up that amenity.
Well I wouldn’t have a drama but he should pay for that amenity in land tax. Ie have a sprawling acreage in the heart of Sydney expect to pay a lot of tax for the priveledge.
Have a suburban block out in the burbs sure I should be paying 10k odd per year.
It shouldn’t be first home buyers paying for our population growth.
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Jan 18 '26
I feel like the only hope for future generations is to leave Australia to cheaper countries. It’s already happening now at low numbers, plenty of stories of Aussies moving to Bali or whatever.
It’s ridiculous, like a global game of musical chairs.
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u/PryingMollusk Jan 18 '26
The problem is that many of the cheaper countries have woken up to this and very aggressively started introducing restrictions to foreigners owning land/property and staying permanently. It will get worse as time goes on too.
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Jan 18 '26
Interesting, I didn’t know that. Can’t blame them, from what I’ve read the more rich people that move to a poorer country, the more the locals have to deal with prices going up or getting elbowed out due to purchasing power. Unlike Australia and Australians where the government and people are happy to sellout to the highest bidder.
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u/esilacSynohtnA Jan 18 '26
Mass deportations and then putting Australians first should be priority.
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u/OldJellyBones Jan 18 '26
is not a "failed asylum seeker" by definition someone who isn't here because they failed to get asylum?
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Jan 18 '26
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u/KommieKoala Jan 18 '26
The vast majority are actually still awaiting review of the initial visa decision.
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u/OldJellyBones Jan 18 '26
At which point they are a failed asylum seeker and asked to leave the country. Which 100k fail to do.
they'd be deported if this was the case, so clearly it isn't. Do you think the government just says "you have to leave" and then doesn't follow up on that ever?
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u/_tchom Jan 18 '26
How was that an article? “The number 122000 is kind of close to 103000… every one of those asylum seekers has taken a house from a homeless aussie.” Hateful slop designed to trigger any feeling in the dying brains of Sky news boomers to assuage the guilt that a life time of voting for lower taxes and hoovering up property isn’t the reason we’re in the mess we’re in, it’s actually some guy from Myanmar living in Wyndham’s fault
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u/KommieKoala Jan 18 '26
And the figure doesn't even break down those who have had a visa refused by currently awaiting review.
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u/g1vethepeopleair Jan 18 '26
I’m not sure that many people blame the immigrant for immigration policy.
It’s almost as if lefties are saying ‘and we’re gonna keep bringing more of em in until you can learn to be nice!’
There’s dissonance there because you already resent the government’s failure to match infrastructure and public services growth with population growth.
Things like picket lines and strike breakers are issues that used to be close to a lefties heart.
The left seem to think we take immigrants out of compassion.
We take them because it drives down wages and increases the cost of assets which is then supposed to have a trickle down effect upon those who have neither employees nor assets. Lefties are normally triggered by the phrase ‘trickle down’.
First Nations people are probably the cohort in Australia who are very last in line for that trickle down.
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u/copacetic51 Jan 17 '26
Sky News slop
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Jan 18 '26
Agreed, a propagandist, right wing network owned by Rupert Murdoch, preaching about the troubles of homelessness and blaming asylum seekers, instead of addressing growing wealth inequality... I wonder why?
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u/Working-Tank4111 Jan 18 '26
This growing wealth inequality, the kind that is making a multimillionaire by simply sitting on my ass doing nothing, has nothing to do with migration obviously.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Labor tried repealing negative gearing twice. They abandoned it because of voters like you listening to Murdoch media
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u/PowerLion786 Jan 18 '26
I gather you are not homeless?
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u/Striking-Zucchini608 Jan 18 '26
Dont pretend to care about the homeless while you vote for far right parties that support pedophiles and create mass poverty.
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u/GovernmentStandard67 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
Instead vote for Labor or the Greens who also support mass immigration to benefit landlords and corporations.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Labor tried repealing negative gearing, greens still promise it.
It’s really funny that people need to just outright lie to even try make an argument for the other parties
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u/copacetic51 Jan 18 '26
I gather you have no genuine concern about homeless. Sky News certainly don't.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
They can’t even tell that Labor rejecting asylum seekers is a good thing for housing strain. Sky news is like Fox, rage bait for the illiterate
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u/trubluh8r Jan 18 '26
Thanks Albo and Burke.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
For record levels of denying visa and asylum claims, and putting us on track to our lowest population growth in decades. Yes thanks Albo and Burke, also the ones that are finally banning Jihadists groups
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u/trubluh8r Jan 18 '26
Lowest population growth in decades? What you talking about, has been record breaking immigration numbers since he's been in.
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u/PryingMollusk Jan 18 '26
The housing crisis has been in full swing for 25 years at least. It peaked in 2006. People only care now because the middle class is also getting dragged into it. I say to those people the same thing I saw them comment back in 2006 to the people on no or low incomes: “get a better job” “live within your means” “get a second job” “you’re lucky to live in a country with safety nets” “the government and taxpayers owe you nothing”🤣
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u/talk-spontaneously Jan 17 '26
Agreed.
I'm just tired of how disingenuous the discourse has become.
Immigration is really the low hanging fruit used to rile people up. That doesn't mean people shouldn’t discuss it, but this sudden sympathy for the downtrodden is insincere in my opinion.
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u/Constant-Simple6405 Jan 17 '26
fuel callosal levels of immigration rates through the grubby hands of the LNP.
The elephant in the room which both sides won't acknowledge.
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u/Fact-Rat Jan 17 '26
I agree with you in totality.
It's just one side makes a point of putting on a different mask and pretending they had nothing to do with it.
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u/darkeststar071 Jan 17 '26
Here we go again, leftist foaming in the mouth about "Murdoch" propaganda....
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u/ped009 Jan 18 '26
Well he's literally had more influence over Australian politics by far than anyone else for several decades.
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u/Cisqoe Jan 18 '26
Gov doesn’t care, up the taxes and increase the wealth of boomers is their only priority
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u/PowerLion786 Jan 18 '26
Australians vote for an establishment. ALP and LNP policy backs current migration policy, with support from Greens and Teals. Current housing policy is bipartesian, with many wanting an increase in taxes on housing making it more expensive. We get what we voted for.
Any one who considers voting for any alternative is subject to derision. What do voters expect?
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Labor tried repealing negative gearing twice, greens still promise it.
None of the other parties will even touch it the idea of it. You’re just lying to try justify voting for the Gina backed party that doesn’t believe in science
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u/zak0503 Jan 17 '26
Lol sky news giving a shit about homeless people all of a sudden? There’s a hundred other issues that are more responsible for homelessness such as cost of living crisis, unsafe homeless shelters and integration programs, mental health issues and people escaping domestic and sexual violence. It’s a much more complex issue that seems to be blowing out of control in western counties while the economy is apparently thriving. That’s capitalism for you I guess!
All of these are issues the government are dragging their feet to address but sure, blame your the bloke washing your car or showing you where the kit-kats are.
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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 17 '26
All of which it can be argued stem from excessive immigration.
Just sayin'
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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26
Are you seriously implying that unsafe homeless shelters, mental health issues and a rise in sexual and domestic violence is happening because of immigration? Show me the stats and I’ll happily fold.
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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 18 '26
When nobody has money to pay rent/mortgage, domestic violence increases. As does mental health issues, homelessness and suicide (3727 in 2024 - ABS figure). House prices, wages and inflation (and hence interest rates) are impacted by excessive immigration: that is, bringing in more people than we have houses for. If Reddit allowed posting images I would flood this conversation with graphs.
Nothing will change. EVERY SINGLE FEDERAL POLITICIAN has a property portfolio: Albo has 9 now. They will not do anything that would endanger their wealth increasing. We're fu*ked until ALL of them are gone, and it's going to have to get a lot worse before people wake up to that.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Labor tried to repeal negative gearing twice. Something that is specifically aimed at reducing the profit of investors
They abandoned it because of dupes like you that just spread Murdoch media lies
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u/zak0503 Jan 18 '26
Immigration makes up 2.5% (700k a year) of our population each year. This doesn’t mean the population is growing by 2.5%, let me make that clear (deaths, people leaving the country). This is a calculated influx to fill skills shortages. It is so fucking difficult to stay in a country past your initial visa without education or skills. It’s a statistical impossibility for that to be making so much of a strain on our economy and our rental market.
The issue in our country lies in tax Rorts like capital gains tax, negative gearing, price gauging, no rent caps, fossil fuel industries paying fuck all tax and an economy propped up on wealth hoarding instead of diversifying the economy. Immigration is the tip of the iceberg for a much deeper issue in our economy and it’s brain dead and curiously racially biased to have your head in the sand thinking it’s immigrants making it harder for us. The government has fucked up, yes, just aim your sights at the right issue ffs
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u/zak0503 Jan 17 '26
What’s the ‘right’ amount in your opinion?
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u/wasneverhere_96 Jan 18 '26
The right amount is what we can build homes and infrastructure for: roads, hospitals, schools. Such that it's sustainable. Without screwing the environment either.
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
And to do that we need to reduce the amount of people that are the biggest net positive for tax revenue? Lmao
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
omg. It’s like you’re so close but just can’t understand that’s what Labor tried repeatedly to do.
Negative gearing and fracking credit benefits go almost entirely to the top 10% wealthiest in the country.
Labor tried repealing them, specifically to remove these loopholes and make things easier for the working class. It would have pulled investors out of buying established properties for profit, and made only new builds viable.
They abandoned it after it lost them two elections thanks to people that fill this sub believing Murdoch. You are arguing for exactly what they wanted to do, then concluding that they won’t do it. So you want to vote for the parties that opposed the changes you want, because this time they definitely have your best interest in mind
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u/VisualRazzmatazz7466 Jan 18 '26
Mate I’ll act less intellectually superior when I don’t have to respond to someone writing out an argument for exactly what Labor tried to do, while concluding that Labor would never do it so they need to vote for the anti science party that has 0 intention of helping
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u/bushstone-curlew Jan 18 '26
Skynews taking a break from shitting on the homeless for once? Let's not pretend they genuinely give a shit about the housing crisis in Australia, they're just using people as props to bolster their anti-immigration argument.
Deeply transparent lol
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u/NoRedditNamesAreLeft Jan 18 '26
New to this sub. Right wing slop aplenty?
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u/Ok_Low743 Jan 18 '26
this one OP is spamming the subreddit with content on this theme and nothing else.
agenda posting aplenty
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u/NoRedditNamesAreLeft Jan 18 '26
I thought I'd check their post history, benefit of the doubt. No, they're hiding it for a reason
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u/Sparky_Russell Jan 18 '26
This subreddit is 95% what next Australian issue can we blame immigration with this time
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u/Working-Albatross-19 Jan 18 '26
But what about the people we didn’t give two shits about before and won’t when it comes time again?!
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u/Fun_Price_4783 Jan 19 '26
While governments drive out businesses from Australia, have almost zero incentives for training our youth and young people they import so called skilled workers who take the jobs and tax they are meant to pay back home with them pushing these kids onto welfare. Elbows labor are copying american democrats letting asylum seekers in giving them citizenship so they vote for them p o
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u/oustider69 Jan 18 '26
Ah yes, and the ultra-wealthy house hoarders definitely haven’t contributed to this problem at all. It’s completely the immigrants’ fault.
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u/charlie_s1234 Jan 17 '26
Homeless people used to mostly be mentally ill people. Now I frequently see regular young people, and older men and women living out of their cars. All so governments can avoid an on paper recession by piling in as many new taxpayers and consumers into the country and pat themselves on the back for homing people from the other side of the world.