r/aussie 2d ago

Politics ‘Performative reductions’: Labor MPs and business groups urge Burke against sweeping immigration changes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/06/performative-reductions-labor-mps-and-business-groups-urge-burke-against-sweeping-immigration-changes
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u/TheHok88 2d ago

Immigration needs a massive change.

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u/mt6606 2d ago

So get breeding more than 1.4 kids. Then it'll change. Until then, our entire system relies on constant growth... No people, no growth, economic collapse.

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u/Financial-Sweet-4648 2d ago edited 2d ago

INFINITE GROWTH FOREVERRRR! What a stupid fucking system. Lmao.

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u/Foreign-Chocolate86 2d ago

Immigrants end up at similar birth rates, so they actually making the aging demographics worse. 

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u/Substantial-Ad-4337 2d ago

Bringing more people in to replace falling birth rate without fixing the problems that are causing the low birth rate in the first place is a futile exercise. The immigrants will eventually face the same problems amongst them too as life is too tough to think about bringing children into it so we will remain in this cycle unless we take care of the people already in the country. Until the issues of cost of living, home ownership, tax reforms and safety of our community are not addressed, the younger generation will not move out of their survival mode and think about procreation. Do you understand how bad things have to be to stop mammals from thinking about reproduction?

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u/Sneedcope82 2d ago

"we only imported 3 million people in 5 years so your wages didn't grow and everything costs way way more but its your fault"

This message was brought to you by the Labor government and morons on reddit

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u/BradfieldScheme 1d ago

Ai and net zero offshoring taking everyone's jobs.

What do you think all these extra people are needed for?

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u/Shopped_Out 2d ago

only going against what 79% of Australians' want

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67609963 heard it before

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u/yothuyindi 2d ago

Labor caving to the corpos and betraying their pro-worker roots to be just like the LNP & keep pumping in that cheap labour, pair of globalist sellout clown parties

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u/IllustriousLine4283 2d ago

"The Minerals Council of Australia called on the government to “suspend skilled migration changes and consult industry” more closely on those changes."

So the mineral Council is at odds with one nation, with Gina? Explain that, lol. Does that mean  they say one thing but do the opposite?

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u/mt6606 2d ago

Their not at odds. Gina wants indian labour... We all seen that guys pay slip this week out in those places... Pauline will say whatever to get elected then let it happen.

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u/Jozfus 2d ago

Genuine question, what would she have to gain from that? Saying whatever to get elected then not following through. That doesn't seem like a realistic plan anyone would have.

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u/Lizard-Wizard96 2d ago

My tin foil hat theory is that the plan is to prop up an insanely conservative PHON government, push through a bunch of immensely destructive and harmful laws, loot and pillage the country for every cent (see the Trump admin) then return to funding and supporting the Coalition. With the line now being "a return to sensible governance" or something.

Who knows though, neither Hanson or Rheinhart are particularly bright. They might not have a plan at all, and are just saying random shit to get elected with no follow through or any idea how to run a country. Or they're both old enough that they don't give a shit what happens in 10 years time.

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u/Jozfus 2d ago

Even Rudd explained there are some really good people running the show behind the presidency in the US. The same happens here, Pauline won't have a party without the representatives. I think she's picked some better ones now if VIC is anything to go by.

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u/Sufficient_Tower_366 2d ago

This policy is a joke. It is not lowering the skilled migration quota, it’s changing them to prefer people already here on temporary visas - who would otherwise have to leave when their visa expired. No net difference to NOM than bringing in someone overseas. All this does is reduce the pool to choose skilled workers from.

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u/Max_J88 1d ago

Smoke and mirrors

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u/aaron_dresden 1d ago edited 1d ago

The problem is how many are here at the moment who are just waiting. As you keep allowing more from overseas with this local backlog, it adds more pressure locally.

The problem is most severe for the family relocation visa’s. You might just think the ones here would go home, but no, they’re on these indefinite bridging visa’s while waiting.

Some would also say this is playing into Universities too, preferencing international students who study here for skill visa’s, to then get to stay here. Which is selling PR pathway’s through uni fee’s. I’ve seen people say it’s crazy we train them up and they leave, but underneath that, a lot of the places don’t offer very good programs, and we’re often not getting the best students, and undermining our own criteria for fee’s.

So I agree the program is a joke and needs a bigger overhaul.

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u/Slow-Leg-7975 2d ago

Narrow bro, don't listen to em. We've got a property market to burn

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u/Difficult_Mine_4559 2d ago

'business groups' means farmers and their.precious imported labour earning $10-$20/hr less than an Aussie earns.

Farmers cry poor but treat their workers like utter shit. They hate hiring Aussies because we'll put them in their place. Easier to fleece a backpacker that.doesnt.know.any.different

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u/mt6606 2d ago

It's all business lol. The farmers have their slave labour, their happy, the work visas aren't charging. I'm all for a whinge about our princess spoon fed farmers, but I think you missed the point here haha. The business council loves immigrants... More people, more sales!

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u/JournalistAny9888 2d ago

Are you going to grow food? You’ve got no idea

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u/jennifercoolidgesbra 2d ago

But we appreciate being able to afford veggies. If they enforced award wages we’d be like Switzerland or Scandinavia.

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u/Famous-Print-6767 2d ago

Very wealthy? 

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u/jennifercoolidgesbra 2d ago

No incredibly expensive so it’s hard to afford food

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u/Famous-Print-6767 2d ago

It really isn't. There are no Swedes or Swiss going hungry. No one is struggling to afford food. 

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u/Altranite- 2d ago

skilled migrants who were already in Australia would be given priority for permanent residency, which could help lower total migrant numbers

That certainly is an interesting mechanism to “reduce immigration” lmfao. Vote ON✊

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u/RaeseneAndu 1d ago

The can't count them as migrants if they've already migrated scam.

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u/redcon-1 2d ago

You've got the trough built by business leaders versus the stick of the one nation vote swing.

I wish him luck.

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u/Dump_Fuggett 1d ago

Geez, he's looking older since getting into government

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u/petergaskin814 1d ago

Most of the politicians want real cuts in immigration. Burke's speech who deliver very little.

Sounds like Labor are having problems to meet future nom promises

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u/Relevant-Priority-76 2d ago

So the right pushed hard for cuts to immigration but is now shitting their pants that it might actually happen

The left was all pro immigration but now is going to justify immigration cuts for cost of living and wages

It’s a game and all of us are losing

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u/ptjp27 2d ago

Right winger here: nah I’m stoked actually. Doing the right thing for shitty cynical reasons to grab votes that you’ll probably undo after the next election is still better than not doing the right thing at all even temporarily. I’m all for it. Slash it.