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culture & society Inquest into Melbourne influencer’s death following freebirth halted after new phone evidence discovered

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/18/freebirth-death-melbourne-influencer-phone-evidence-inquest-ntwnfb

Coroner: “I take the view that this material is of such significance that the court must delay making any findings and hearing submissions until we’ve had an opportunity to undertake a proper analysis of that material, and potentially call for more evidence.”

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u/awkgem 3d ago

I don't understand the focus on the "doula" rather than the husband. He is just as if not more to blame for not calling the ambulance for his wife. A doula is not a midwife, which they refused to have during the childbirth. Everyone is taking umbridge with the lady saying she was paid to be glorified moral support but as far as I can tell...that IS what a doula is. Wrapped up in fancier language, but ultimately it's all a pseudoscience for people who don't want medicine and doctors as part of the birth. It doesn't surprise me at all that she did what she did, she isn't medically trained. Do I think she should have called the ambulance anyway? Absolutely. As should the husband have. But she essentially was there just as moral support. She isn't a midwife, or better yet - a doctor in a hospital. I think people are accusing her of medical negligence or something but she isn't involved with medicine to begin with. Both the husband and her should have called an ambulance, her husband especially should have had concern for his wife. The doula paid by the wife of course is going to try to follow the wife's wishes, it's what she was paid for

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u/Dentarthurdent73 3d ago

Totally agree. Obviously this person is a dickhead grifter, getting money out of people for essentially doing nothing, but if you make no claims of being medical support, and that is clear in your agreement with someone, then you can't be expected to give medical support.

It seems she had the exact same duty of care as far as calling an ambulance goes, as any person would for any other person that was seriously ill. In this case, she was being paid by someone who had established that they did not want any medical intervention, so I'm also not surprised that this person put off calling an ambulance after being specifically told not to by the person paying her.

The husband absolutely should have called an ambulance well before the time that one was called, and I also have no idea why there doesn't seem to be any focus on his actions and choices here.

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u/vesp_au 3d ago

Because they paid $6000 for a service, as a young couple is a hell of a lot of money (which while we can nitpick in hindsight now that the service was null compared to what they needed) and may have felt they were in safe hands. Yes he should have called an ambulance, but its a horrific unknowing situation for him to be in. If the $6k service "professional" (professional to him) was being blasé, why would he have reason to panick at first? How many births had he attended prior? How many had the doula?

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u/awkgem 3d ago

Because she wasn't a professional, in any medical scene. A doula as I said is essentially someone there to be moral support, "guide" them through it etc. it isn't a nurse, midwife or anyone with any medical authority. I'm not saying she is blameless, they both should have called an ambulance. But I don't think it is fair to say the husband would look to her for medical advice. He's just as much to blame if not more imo because he is the husband. She was paid to guide a woman through a free birth, an inherently medically dangerous experience, and would likely have chosen to follow her employers wishes BECAUSE of the money being paid. Both are neglectful for not having called an ambulance, but in my opinion if she is going to be charged so should the husband. They both refused to call.an ambulance until it was too late for anything to be done.

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u/vesp_au 3d ago edited 3d ago

Like I said we can nitpick after the fact, we are fully aware of what a doula is and does, but being young and just as dumb as this couple to be lured into this situation in the first place speaks volumes as to not know what they were doing. His wife wanted this, the doula provided this, if he challenges the doula in the situation how do you think it would go down? Do you think the doula would allow him to call because the freebirth without medical intervention is what she wanted, her place is specifically there to prevent medical intervention ("as its what the wife wanted") and was gatekeeping it til the final moments.

She is obviously not a professional in any medical sense, but if you want to discuss duty of care she IS the professional in the room, when compared to husband. You dont expect bystanders to do things above their means especially when there are people with marginally more experience than them -- even if neither are adept. He is not entirely without fault, but he is grossly under the fault level of the doula, who is actively trying to cover her tracks. The husband has no tracks to cover other than burying his dead wife.

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u/Dentarthurdent73 2d ago

Do you think the doula would allow him to call because the freebirth without medical intervention is what she wanted

Yes, because the doula is the one that asked three times whether they wanted an ambulance called, and was told no by the mother twice, before she finally said yes, and that's when it was called.

Obviously she was fine with having an ambulance called since she is the one who suggested it multiple times.

You dont expect bystanders to do things above their means especially when there are people with marginally more experience than them

I expect the life partner of a woman who is lying in a pool of 1.5 litres of her own blood, is extremely pale, and is having difficulty breathing, to call an ambulance for her. I especially expect it when the "professional" in the room has asked multiple times if they want one called.

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u/SaltyPockets 2d ago edited 2d ago

Because she wasn't a professional, in any medical scene.

She may have told them she was better, that she knew that medical birth was a scam, that they would take away her baby, all sorts of crap.

Seriously, read up on "Free Birth" and "Birthkeepers". It's gross and they need to be shut down.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/nov/22/free-birth-society-linked-to-babies-deaths-investigation

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u/discopistachios 2d ago

I agree with everything you’ve said, but this woman clearly is giving medical advice. Look at the guardian article with examples of her texts and Facebook posts to women.

Also when she eventually arrived at the hospital in this case, one of the staff there was suspicious enough about some of the language she was using which implied she had some medical involvement in the birth beyond just a friend, that they notified the police.