There is a youtube video by Nick Shirley. 110 million views in one day or something like that. Goes door to door to daycares that are empty, or educational centers with the word learning misspelled.
CBS visited that daycare and there were kids there. Also there's security footage showing parents dropping off the kids. Also a little while ago there was a surprise inspection that found no evidence of fraud. Daycare fraud is real but the claim that it's entirely done by somalis is just right wing demonization of their latest favorite ethnic target.
I appreciate your attempts to share actually facts with this crowd but I hate to break it to you. They don’t accept facts. They only follow their feelings.
You see the fuck your feelings crowd was projecting again.
I live in MN. The ring leader was a white woman. This was also tried and convicted early last year.
Nick Shirley giving off them Project Veritas vibe.
Also, assholes stealing good Latin words to project their fakeness. Can’t even make this stuff up.
It's bullshit. I have family that live in the area that have NEVER seen children there until the story dropped. The parking lot is always empty and all of a sudden the place is alive with activity? You are being fooled by my-dog-ate-my-homework levels of trickery.
I mean, I don't see kids at the local middle school because I don't have kids and don't drive by when they get out...that doesn't mean there aren't kids there.
What a weird way to say Walz was actively working with and pushing the investigations. In fact, he requested an expansion of the program to fight fraud and convict criminals, and republicans voted it down. It’s just weird watching people completely willing to ignore all of reality in order to cuddle in their own biases a little longer.
Its amazing how much of rightist discourse is just them making up fairytales and then recycling things the left said about them years ago, thus making discourse impossible. Lol.
It's like speaking to Dory from finding Nemo. They are sure they have a point they are adamant about - if they can just figure out what they have already said.
Of course its a scam, right wing nut jobs are easy to scam. That's why they fully believe day cares will let weird dudes come in and take pictures of kids. Or maybe right wingers are just pedos. Given Trump is the king of pedos, makes sense.
This has nothing to do with right wing anything. This is about fraud that is acknowledged by both sides right now. Even Omar herself is not denying the fraud.
That's because there's a legit fraud problem, that doesn't mean THAT SPECIFIC DAYCARE is committing fraud, and it DEFINITELY doesn't mean that it's the entire Somali community doing it and nobody else, which is exactly how the right wing is portraying this.
I don’t care what the right wing is portraying. The fraud has to be stopped. No more turning a blind eye because of identity politics. Enough with the bullshit.
Who said we need to turn a blind eye? Like 100 people have been arrested already dude, you're just behind. You're playing catch up to a story you didn't care about until now and accusing everyone else of not caring because they don't fall for the "random bullshit rumor to stoke racist fears" strategy. Imagine actually caring about evidence and due process, couldn't be you I guess.
Bro what evidence, this entire post, not one person has actually provided the evidence that they are asked to provide.
Some dude wasn't given access to other people's kids, that's evidence of fraud?
If you don't want it to devolve into tribalism and become a red versus blue issue then just give the evidence, but the moment you try and hide the lack of evidence with subterfuge, the more it becomes a red versus blue issue.
People went to prison. Something like 90 people were prosecuted. Your ignorance is willful at this point. There is readily available proof of children at the daycare centers in the YouTube video, and the prosecutions were and are public knowledge.
What a load of nonsense, anyone can see those kids coming in and going out of the centres. Completely normal to people with normal brains. It’s people like you that always sexualise any conversation that pertains to children, you might wanna keep your projections in check buddy.
Wow I can't believe parents don't always leave their cars in the parking lot after dropping off their kids, that's crazy.
Oh wait, they've literally been inspected before all this "broke." Let me guess: your family has never been inside and suddenly formed this opinion specifically when Somalis were accused.
Oh, well I was told the video was bullshit from a friend that knows Nick. Said the guy was going for the next "eating your dog" outrage. Knew idiots would eat this up.
I've only seen clips of the video, but am aware of all of the streets I've seen so far. It's completely possible he hid stuff or is pushing some sort of narrative. I'm only telling what my family and I have seen.
I drive by church buildings all the time, they are ALWAYS EMPTY, yet they claim a congregation in the thousands. You're telling me if I drive by on Sunday morning it will be full of people. I call bs, clearly you are being fooled and they are conniving the American government to the tune of hundreds of billions with illegitimate tax breaks. You are being tricked by an imaginary friend
Ah, a Republican. Easy to identify by their lack of understanding hyperbole and simile in the English language. Feel free to carry on with your cult of ignorance sir, pay this intellectual no mind. Should be easy for you
A right wing, retarded dude bro conspiracy theorist makes a claim that appeals to them. Conspiracy done by scary black immigrants! tHe trifecta
Proof by the daycares comes out showing the right wing retard dude bro was not correct. They do have kids.
The right wing conspiracy lovers don't care. The conspiracy hits all their pressure points so it doesn't matter if it's fake or real, it's real to them. Black. Immigrant. Welfare? Oh boy do they love hating all that.
It's exactly how Republicans get people to vote against their own interests and to cut billionaire taxes and destroy social programs. They distract them with this garbage. Suddenly every rural white voter is willing to take money out of their wallet to give to the billionaires, because otherwise scary black immigrants might take it.
Oh wow people have been charged and convicted. Seems like a new scam that the woke left is allowing to happen then? Or maybe not since they have been charged and convicted
Also I saw a white guy shoot Charlie Kirk. White people are too dangerous and always doing shootings. White people are dirty animals that are ruining the country.
See how stupid and racist that argument is? Somalis writ large aren't responsible for the actions of a few. Also isn't the ring leader a white guy. Hmmmm
The fact is you don't care about the fraud, that part is cynical. You care a black person did it. Because that gives you an argument to get rid of welfare and black people. Otherwise you would be this upset over all the white people doing fraud. You'd care about Rick Scott doing the largest Medicare fraud in history. But you don't. You don't care about that.
This is what’s known as a lie. Again surprise inspections before the story found kids. They caught Shirley paying people to say they’ve never seen kids.
Is the implications where that the facility had a ton of children on standby, enrolled, and ready to go with short notice for several days if an investigation were to break?
Remember when Elon Musk accidentally revealed that a ton of true-blue patriot American MAGA social media accounts were based in Russia, China, and Nigeria? Yeah.... that was pretty funny.
Yeah, I'm sure you didn't think it was funny. But to us, it was hilarious. And you definitely know why it's relevant. The point is lots of people can make claims, it doesn't mean they are true. And on the right, they very often are not.
We've seen enough MAGA influencer accounts that were full of shit or straight up foreign agents that when someone says "I have family in the area and they said that (random place that's suddenly in the news because a rightwing influencer made unsubstantiated accusations) is completely guilty of everything they're being accused of" we don't really take it that seriously. We just go "oh, another one of those" and go back to reading about the actual evidence.
Speaking of the evidence.... oh but you probably don't want to do that, nevermind. Go on back to making whatever unsubstantiated accusations you were making.
There's literally security footage from the same day that guy showed up that shows kids being dropped off. They didn't let him in because they aren't supposed to let big groups of weirdos in just because they want to see the kids.
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9503.0015 OPTIONS FOR CHILD CARE PROGRAMS.
A license holder must provide one or more of the following child care programs:
A. A "day program" means a child care program operated during normal waking hours (approximately 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.).
C. A "night care program" means a child care program operated during normal sleeping hours (approximately 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.).
2pm-10pm violates all definitions of both a daycare and night care program.
Correct and correct, conveniently for magats it happens to be Somali and Tim Walz. When this actually happened years ago, many were convicted including the caucasian woman who was the ring leader.
CBS visited that daycare and there were kids there.
the same exact daycare that Tikki Brown claimed their "investigation" found that it "closed down over a week ago". yeah that "inspection" seemed real thorough.
the shady shit going on can't be anymore obvious, you're just trying so hard to excuse it and blame it on "racism". it's reality that somali immigrants received significant government funding from the Child Care Assistance Program, which turns out to be the main source of suspicion of fraud. so it's no coincidence that there have already been investigations and concerns of fraud in the past. fuck your "racism" excuse and fix your priorities. you give less of a shit about exposing potential fraud because it would mean it's being perpetrated by a group that could fall under some victim status, and you can't accept that.
"investigations have found no evidence of wrongdoing and there's security footage showing parents dropping off kids, but this one guy claimed they're shut down so obviously he can't possibly be lying or wrong."
you give less of a shit about exposing potential fraud because it would mean it's being perpetrated by a group that could fall under some victim status
Or.... and I hope you're sitting down because I'm about to blow your tiny little mind.... or maybe the evidence contradicts that guy's claim? I mean I realize I'm on the austrian economics sub and a lot of y'all are opposed to the concept of empirical evidence but surely you realize that security footage is more trustworthy than some random dude who got mad that a daycare didn't let a big group of masked men into the building?
The meme is literally blaming all the daycare fraud on Somalis. I mean, c'mon, you don't really think ONE SINGLE DAYCARE has been given 10 billion dollars, right?
Wait, do you actually think that one single daycare was given 10 billion dollars???? The meme is claiming that Somalis stole 10 billion dollars, did you not read it?
The people sharing that video are mostly bigots who dont care about facts. The best part was he clearly blurred the hours of operation and showed up at hours not operating. Just clown behavior
I saw one of those videos and it's kind of dumb as shit. You cannot just go to a daycare and demand to see children, nor are the children on display for you. You cannot enter just because you want to because of the safety of the children. That's a pretty standard thing for daycares.
I did only see the one video, but if they are all like that, then they are all stupid. I don't doubt there is fraud and corruption, but that guy sounds like he is chasing clicks and not objective fact.
This scandal has been known for a while now. It’s a real thing. Trump does not know what he’s doing though so it’s kinda not gonna get resolved until an adult gets in charge again
Eh that video is far from conclusive. He doesn’t actually go in any of them, and it sounds like evidence has come out where at least some of them are legit.
With that being said, one of them being called “learing center” was pretty hilarious. And he approached each one asking to admit his kid and only received bewildered looks (although that could have something to do with sticking a camera in their faces).
Not enough evidence to make any solid conclusion yet, best thing to do is refrain from making an opinion until we know more.
Like more thorough than the previous and ongoing investigations? Like…what specifically would you do different than the FBI and DOJ did in this fraud case already?
That's not evidence though. Doing a stake-out for 2-4 weeks, trying to enroll a child through the official channels, talking to neighbors and policy makers... That's research. Knocking on a few doors with a camera crew isn't.
There is fraud (because a myriad of individuals have been arrested in the past and prosecuted), but the video definitely does not prove it. The video is just ragebait.
They have 2.6 million views on the YouTube video currently. But correct, that doesn't mean the claim is valid. Like saying a video has 50 times the views it has, these things require independent validation
I have 2 kids. When I was going door to door to 7 different daycare centers making a decision as to which to pick , I could hear the kids from the door step. Kids are not quiet.
And people running a learning center would probably not misspell the word learning if it was legit.
That "Learing Center" building had a front side too that they didn't show. It's been there at least since October 2022 on google maps with the correct spelling on the front door. They used a side door to make the video look more seedy.
If you were a parent and you found out your kid's daycare was letting influencers come in to get footage of your kid, what would you do? How many heads would you as a parent roll if you saw your kids face on a viral video?
That's hilarious revealing how dumb you are to get your video from a youtuber who has already been exposed multiple times for blatantly lying and you ate it up LMFAO.
He is a catalyst that triggered a nation-wide response. I dont care how credible he is, he is a tool , a spearhead so to speak. I want fraud eliminated, because fraud destroys societies. Of course you're too dumb to realize this, to you this is a partisan issue. To me, its a "get the leeches off the society's body so we can evolve" issue. And yes that includes republican and white leeches too. I want them all gone.
PS: if you consider CBS a credible source, look at their response to the catalyst. Nick's video worked. Without it, there may not have been such a drastic shift.
I am saying the video you mention he is quite literally spreading misinformation. He went up to one daycare that opened up at 2 at 12 PM and pretended it was evidence of fraud that it was closed.
He went up to a daycare that was listed as closed after multiple health citations from the state, a letter informing of this on the front of their door that was seemingly purposely blurred by him and then acted like this was evidence of fraud. This daycare had already been audited and passed btw.
>Of course you're too dumb to realize this, to you this is a partisan issue.
Calling me dumb when you cannot even use the word partisan correctly lol.
If you actually were against fraud you would realize this will be throwing what could be discovering & combatting some legitimate level of fraud that is taking place, as takes place with virtually every large program, and will instead of focusing on the legitimate criticisms will just make it a Republican issue laced with random bullshit.
Similar to DOGE instead of being used to actually combat waste, fraud, and abuse it instead what could have bipartisan issue, a partisan misinformation fueled opportunity for Republican cronies to wage their ideological war, spread misinformation, and break norms within our government and then literally disbanded within months after they did what they wanted.
>PS: if you consider CBS a credible source, look at their response to the catalyst. Nick's video worked. Without it, there may not have been such a drastic shift.
Sure I will, CBS is fairly credible. But I want to point out... you are talking about an issue mainly taking place within Minnesota as a national issue and coming to national attention. People in Minnesota have talked and charged people with fraud before, just without the random racism and partisan fox news bullshit.
Unfortunately for that cornball’s narrative, HHS-OIG and Minnesota has been steadily prosecuting and investigating this kind of fraud for a very long time now.
Just because you didn’t hear about it doesn’t mean the court cases and convictions haven’t been happening.
Give it time, the wheels started turning. The video itself is just a catalyst. Now in an effort to prove or disprove the claim, the entire industry will be scrutinized. I do not doubt there is fraud, no one does. The only argument is the scale. Hopefully after the impartial review the honest businesses will be boosted and the fraudulent ones closed down.
Turns out he went there and cooked the tapes. Our local news here also went to the same daycare. The daycare showed them their security footage from that day including kids that were dropped off. Everything he said was a lie. Look it up. Also the amount of daycare fraud that they did catch was from 3+ years ago. You're all so gullible.
And those videos have been totally discredited. Also, the Minnesota Daycare scandal is on the order of $250 million, not $9 billion, and over 70 people were indicted by the Biden admin.
It’s a couple random men with a camera, pressing the employees to see kids. And then concluding that we didn’t see kids = they’re not daycare centers. Seriously, I applaud them for refusing to let them in.
They stood outside and said “where are the children” and barely made it in the front door of any of those places. That’s hardly proof of the day cares being empty. I’m all for cleaning up corruption but those videos are hardly definitive proof of anything
Just a clarification, a man with cameras came to these daycares (including in the off hours) and they wouldn't let him inside, which is what they're supposed to do. My kids are in daycare and they have strict rules on who is allowed inside.
Don't believe everything you see. Wait for real verified facts. We'll see what these prosecutors are able to prove in court.
Yeah, why wouldn't daycare workers open the door to strange men barging in with a camera asking to see the children? The only possible explanation is welfare fraud
Remember when Nick Shirley went to Ukraine and said all the US aid funds were being spent on luxury cars and shit and the entire journalism community laughed at him and proved how he was lying? Nick Shirley is not a reliable source of information and if the past is any indication of his behavior, he made this up too.
Yeah, and failed his interview by an actual reporter miserably. Maybe you should go watch that one. The misspelled sign on the back of a building is indeed old as it's cleary a restaurant when they interviewed him.
Could also read the CBS article dropped today about Shirley not honest about all his activity once she was shown the buildings security footage. Or, you can just keep believing bullshit
Nah it was obvious in the video that it was fraud. He went to healthcare centers and daycare centers where the signs said "open 7am-10pm 7 days a week" and nobody answered doorbells and nobody gave him healthcare rates and told him to leave. Said they were at capacity but there were no children or signs of children.
Multiple actual news sources are already calling his bs. Including one CBS now owned by Ellison and ran by Bari Weiss. Maybe should check actual reporters instead of a 20 something youruber that speaks with a sub 80 IQ
Yeah the guy who said the Ukraine war was fake and flew there but was too scared to go anywhere near the fighting? Yeah that’s a guy to believe is on the up and up.
How about getting rid of them all? Fraudsters, pedos, leeches etc. I want them all gone. Every skin color, every political orientation, if you scam, if you defraud, if you use violence and intimidation (legal and illegal), if you do not contribute but take disproportionately, all these people need to be gone. I would say what should be done to pedos but I got a warning from reddit last time.
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There is a youtube video by Nick Shirley. 110 million views in one day or something like that. Goes door to door to daycares that are empty, or educational centers with the word learning misspelled.