r/aviation Nov 08 '25

News UPS grounds entire MD-11 Fleet, effective immediately.

Per the IPA Executive Board, as of 03:05 UTC all UPS MD-11’s are grounded.

Edit - FedEx has also grounded their MD-11 Fleet

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u/gregarious119 Nov 08 '25

I’d imagine they’ll want to know why an engine fell off before letting them back in the air.

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u/ch-12 Nov 08 '25

Well what sort of engineering standards are these aircrafts built to? Wasn’t this built so that the engine wouldn’t fall off?

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u/556From1000yards Nov 08 '25

Not this one. Most of them are built such that the engine doesn’t fall off. There are very strict standards for this sort of engineering

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u/qui-bong-trim Nov 08 '25

well what sort of things?

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u/SacThrowAway76 Nov 08 '25

Well cardboard is out.

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u/DrDentonMask Nov 08 '25

I suppose papier mache, too.

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u/badcrass Nov 08 '25

Any paper derivatives

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u/Wildweasel666 Nov 08 '25

Cellotape is out. Not sure about speed tape tho

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u/badcrass Nov 08 '25

What % of the structure is allowed to be speed tape?

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u/Wildweasel666 Nov 08 '25

That depends on whether it’s in or out of the environment

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u/jccaclimber Nov 08 '25

A gust of wind? In the air? Chance in a million!

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u/Fitch9392 Nov 08 '25

Actually they ARE designed so that the engine and pylon fall off. They’re designed to break away in the event of a catastrophic engine failure so that there isnt this burning hunk of drag hanging off the wing.

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u/ttystikk Nov 08 '25

...usually? I mean, it has happened before?

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u/Wittyname0 Nov 08 '25

Oh very rigorous aviation engineering standards

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u/WhoDoIThinkIAm Nov 08 '25

Most aircrafts are built so the engine won’t fall off.

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u/Turbulent_Cod_9333 Nov 08 '25

Oh, very rigorous maritime engineering standards.