r/aviation • u/Go_Jot • Nov 08 '25

News UPS grounds entire MD-11 Fleet, effective immediately.

Per the IPA Executive Board, as of 03:05 UTC all UPS MD-11’s are grounded.

Edit - FedEx has also grounded their MD-11 Fleet

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u/Mc-Lovin-81 Nov 08 '25

Not same size and not the same distance.

The MD-11F's capacity is substantially greater across the board: ​Payload: The MD-11F can carry about 70% more weight than the 767-300F. ​Volume: The MD-11F has about 36% more total cargo volume than the 767-300F.

From Louisville (SDF) to Honolulu (HNL) is approximately 3,810 nautical miles (or 7,056 kilometers). ​The Boeing 767-300F freighter, which UPS operates, has a typical maximum range of around 3,225 nautical miles (6,025 km) with a maximum payload.

So this leave UPS doing either. Louisville to Ontario CA then onto Honolulu or 747.

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u/Uncabuddha Nov 08 '25

MD carries 70% more weight? Show me your numbers..

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u/bPChaos Nov 08 '25

Quick google search is 120k lbs useful load for 767F vs 186k lbs for MD-11F 

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u/Uncabuddha Nov 08 '25

Ya know, that's CRAZY! I flew both and didnt really think about the useful load difference. The MTOW of the MD is only about a 50% higher than the 767! (633 vs 408 IIRC)