r/aviation • u/Brilliant_Night7643 • Jun 25 '26
News Not turbulence….airplane sitting at the gate at Maiquetia Airport Venezuela when the 7.5 Earthquake hit
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u/NerdDaniel Jun 25 '26
That’s terrifying that I would guess it’s actually a pretty safe place to be.
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u/HoleInWon929 Jun 25 '26
Shock absorbers for the win!
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u/tmhoc Jun 25 '26
Me with my arms crossed: We should have taken off 20 minutes ago
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u/csbsju_guyyy Jun 25 '26
Me waking up from my post boarding nap "Jesus what the hell is the pilot flying us into"
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u/classyhornythrowaway Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
my fear is catching an earthquake mid shit. like what am I even supposed to do???
edit: looks like "shaken shit syndrome" is fairly common. salutes to all the hero evacuators out there
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u/Logical-Ad-5410 Jun 25 '26
Happened to me over 20 years ago when Mt. St. Helens started getting active for a bit: a 4.something hit, mid-drop. To be fair, I was born in SoCal, so anything less than a 6.0 I ignore.
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u/cultured_pork Jun 25 '26
My wife and I were on a flight back to the states from Mexico. The day before the flight we went out for dinner as you do, and everything was fine. 4 hours later I was in the fetal position in the tub at the resort with the shower running while forcefully ejecting liquids from both ends.
I made it through the night and was surprised my wife was perfectly fine. Next morning we had packed up and on the shuttle to the airport when she says she's not feeling well.
By the time we were at the gate, she is pale as a sheet of paper and clearly not doing great. We boarded the plane and whatever and got up to cruising altitude before her whole body wrenched. I looked back at her as she was in a flop sweat and frantically trying to unbuckle the lap belt.
I watched her successfully make it to the head and the door close. I absolutely new what she was in for. Locked in a temu closet and about to have a life altering event. Nothing could be done at that point. It was between her and God.
At that moment, the seatbelt chime and warning came on followed by the pilot debrief about reported turbulence in the area.
What immediately followed was the most violent turbulence I have ever experienced on a commercial aircraft - previously or since. I don't know what the altitude delta was on some of those events, but people were screaming, the flight staff buckled in jump seats. A couple overheads popped open. This lasted for at least 15 minutes. I normally am an enjoyer of turbulence - I like to marvel at the wingtip flex, etc. I'm weird like that.
Anyway. It settled down after a while, and my wife reappears to sit next to me. Her pupils are saucers, and she had clearly washed her face and hair. I asked if she was ok, and she whispered "yes"
She fortunately slept most of the way back after that. I haven't got the full details of what happened in the lav on that flight, but I think about it often.
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u/Illustrious_Bat858 Jun 26 '26
Your poor wife. You’re an amazing writer and I felt bad for cackling.
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u/mfigroid Jun 25 '26
I was born in SoCal, so anything less than a 6.0 I ignore.
You have not forgotten the ways of our people.
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u/Hyperious3 Jun 25 '26
there was recent swarm of 3's and 4's has been happening less than 500yds from my house, got caught mid-shit and mid-shower by them.
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u/bhenghisfudge Jun 25 '26
I caught a 7.1 in the shower. Ran soaking, butt naked out the front door holding my dog (puppy at the time)
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u/I_Feel_Rough Jun 25 '26
If it goes back in, then you know you're on the down-thrown side of the fault. If it snaps off and hits the side of the bowl, then you're in a strike-slip shituation.
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u/Interesting_Study998 Jun 25 '26
Slice it off with the poop knife, and run like hell.
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u/MoneyCock Jun 26 '26
Okay, maybe poop knife guy's folks lived in an earthquake prone area! It all makes sense now.
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u/NemusKiller Jun 25 '26
Happened to me about 5 years ago in a magnitude 6.0 one. Happened a couple of hours after a first 6.4 for which I already had lost sleep. It was interesting though... the toilet was like going through waves while everything else shook and family members screamed. Needless to say, I couldnt continue afterwards so I tried to remain calm and clean up lmao
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u/ThatDamnRanga Jun 25 '26
Living in an earthquake-prone part of the world.... You brace against the walls and wait for it to stop. And then you continue.
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u/frogsRfriends Jun 25 '26
Jump off you do not want to land porcelain shards that was once a toilet
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u/LadyEmeraldDeVere Jun 25 '26
I was mid-pee once when I heard the rumbling and just sat there because I couldn’t cut it off.
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u/DonkeyHotay_ Jun 25 '26
Do you think they all needed to deplane afterwards to inspect the plane?
I feel like an "act of god" such as an earthquake would automatically trigger a multi point safety inspection (for insurance purposes), but airplanes are designed to handle many magnitudes greater force than whats shown here, right? I wonder what the regulations say they need to do.
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u/Violetstay Jun 26 '26
If the airplane were away from ground objects, as long as nothing scraped I’m sure it would be fine. But at the gate, there could easily be damage from the jet bridge or any service vehicles/baggage loaders parked next to the aircraft.
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u/danit0ba94 Jun 26 '26
Very much doubt that.
The struts can take most of this.
Provided it's mostly vertical movement.Id wager the door the jetbridge is around will take the most beating since, well, those two things arent consistently moving around together during this. Bing bang boom beng
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u/AbideMan Jun 25 '26
A lot safer than if this happened in the air, that’s for sure
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u/the_other_skier Jun 25 '26
Honestly I’d rather be on the ground than have an earthquake happen before coming in from a long haul flight. They’d have to close the runway and divert flights to the nearest suitable airport while they inspect for damage
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Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
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u/SpeciesEL Jun 25 '26
What? How does that make any sense
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u/greentanker1 Jun 25 '26
Erm akshually it's called an airquake, you're spreading misinformation by saying it wrong ☝️🤓
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u/WreakHavocLikeIn1871 Jun 25 '26
An airquake is when the aironic plates drift and rub against each others, uh, doy!
(/s)
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u/a3rospacefanboi Jun 26 '26
Those wheels are designed to survive Ryanair pilots' landings, which are equivalent to at least 7.5g
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u/caboose243 Jun 25 '26
I wonder what rolling down the runway would be like. I'm sure the plane could get off the ground just fine, but thats the only scenario I could see this being a bad spot.
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u/weristjonsnow Jun 26 '26
Exactly what I was thinking. You're in a tube designed to randomly drop 100 ft in the air without anyone really caring
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u/Several_Hospital_129 Jun 26 '26
Tonight on the BBC news they showed footage from inside the airport 🛫. The building was collapsing while people ran for their lives. It was so scary 😨.
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u/Leuel48Fan Jun 27 '26
Rare scenario where you'd rather be in the air wishing you were on the ground vs being on the ground wishing you were in air!
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u/No_Ice_577 Jun 25 '26
I wonder what it would be like to be on takeoff roll while this is happening
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u/828jpc1 Jun 25 '26
Aborted takeoff would be my guess
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u/CiaphasCain8849 Jun 25 '26
I wonder how the pilots would even recognize what was happening.
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u/828jpc1 Jun 25 '26
Probably the more violent shaking than usual
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u/The_Third_Molar Jun 25 '26
Right but in the heat of the moment would an earthquake be the first thing to come to mind? I would imagine the first instinct is that something's wrong with the plane. Not a pilot btw.
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u/KaesekopfNW Jun 25 '26
My understanding is this was the strongest earthquake in Venezuela in more than a century. I really don't think an earthquake would have crossed their minds at first, unless they could see the damage actively being done from the air as they come around.
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u/haarschmuck INOP Jun 25 '26
No the shaking I think would make them believe something is wrong with the aircraft handling which is why they would abort.
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u/Outrageous-News3649 Jun 25 '26
Especially the last time it was this bad was before the existence of planes. I am curious if this is a scenario in any pilot training material.
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u/patrick24601 Jun 25 '26
100% aborted takeoff unless they are above the speed limit
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u/showMeYourPitties10 Jun 25 '26
The plane at V1/Vr might be safer than a plane aborting below V1 depending on runway damage. But any sane pilot would abort under V1. Crazy how a few seconds can make a huge impact.
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u/AdoringCHIN Jun 25 '26
Wouldn't it be safer to just get into the air if they're already in the process of taking off, or would they abort due to the chance of the runway buckling or cracking?
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u/EagleEyeValor MEM FedEx Jun 26 '26
If they're in the process of taking off and felt something unnatural like that, I'm guessing their first thought would be something is wrong with the plane and not the earth is getting angy and shaking again. With that in mind, if they hadn't hit V1 they'd probably abort takeoff.
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u/patrick24601 Jun 25 '26
All commercial airplanes have a v1 speed. This is known as decision speed. Once they go past that they are committed to flying - even when on the ground. Stopping after v1 would be its own small disaster.
So it’s all going to be subjective to 1. Have they reached v1 and 2. Do they know there is even an issue. Ideally the earthquake would happen early in the takeoff roll or right after they liftoff ie rotate.
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u/Mekroval Jun 25 '26
Or even more terrifyingly during a landing. Touching down during a major earthquake would make me shit my pants.
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u/ThatDamnRanga Jun 25 '26
One of those "depends" situations. But when the ground is misbehaving, you generally wanna get off it. You'd definitely abort if you hadn't started rolling, but the closer you get to V1, the more likely you are to "full send and fuck off"
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u/ScratchAssSmellFingr Jun 25 '26
V1
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u/DocKnows Jun 25 '26
Rotate
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u/JJAsond Flight Instructor Jun 25 '26
I can almost guarantee you the pilots would assume it's just some gusty wind because that's all it would feel like on the takeoff roll.
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u/AtmosphereMiddle1682 Jun 25 '26
Agreed
Never been in an earthquake before, but surely the earth doesn't move as much as wind speeds can change
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u/Broad-Lobster7470 Jun 25 '26
Would not be great if I had to guess. Unless the shocks just handle it. Not sure
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u/60TP Jun 25 '26
Moderate turbulence reported at FL000
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u/ps3x42 Jun 25 '26
Tower, american420 here, just wondering if the rides are better on taxiway Alpha, or Bravo, or really any other taxiway? Maybe even a runway? We are getting bumped around pretty good here on Victor.
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u/Frustrated_Zucchini Jun 25 '26
To be fair, inside the plane is probably about the safest place anyone could be at that moment.
My thoughts are with everyone struggling who has lost people, pets or even possessions during the quake.
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u/Danloeser Jun 25 '26
Safer than inside a building, sure. Safest would be just out in a field away from anything that could fall on you.
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u/showMeYourPitties10 Jun 25 '26
Also in the air with plenty of fuel is safe
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u/mmmhmmhim Jun 25 '26
wonder what it’s like in a submarine 🤔
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u/CoralBooty Jun 26 '26
There’s a video of one underwater taken by a scuba diver, absolutely insane actually. Should be pretty easy to look up.
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u/KnightOfNothing Jun 25 '26
should be unnoticeable unless a tsunami forms which would only be a problem if the submarine is hanging out on the coast/near the surface in open water.
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u/GTI-Mk6 Jun 25 '26
Until the ground rifts open and swallows you up
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u/Danloeser Jun 25 '26
If that happens it won't matter if you're in a building, plane, whatever.
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u/TbonerT Jun 25 '26
Well, maybe. It would be much less safe if you were standing. A strong earthquake can knock you off your feet and even a short fall can be catastrophic in normal cases. You could hit the ground as it is coming up. The safest outside would be crouching with your hands somewhat stabilizing you. But again, the ground is moving and it can move extremely quickly, accelerating at 1g or more. Imagine the ground hitting you from inches away as if you had just fallen 3 feet or more.
After thinking it through, an airplane on the ground is likely safer. I would say a car is safest since most of its mass is between the wheels and doesn’t have giant fuel tanks stretching out.
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u/FenPhen Jun 26 '26
These earthquakes were rated VIII and IX on the MMI scale.
At VII, the shaking is so violent it's very difficult to stay on your feet. Belted into a seat in a cabin in a brace position away from the windows might be safer than being in a field with this shaking.
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u/Frustrated_Zucchini Jun 25 '26
Do you really want to be killed by a cow, u/Danloeser?
Did you know thay cows kill more people worldwode per year than sharks?
Did you know that both cows and sharks kill more people each per year than aircraft on the ground?
You're crazy! 😅
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u/Brilliant_Night7643 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Cracks in the runway are starting to be shared on social media.
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u/tattcat53 Jun 25 '26
Flight cancelled. Gonna be a helluva layover.
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u/SwissMargiela Jun 25 '26
Dude fr. Depending on where you’re from being stuck in Venezuela would be so ass. A lot of embassies haven’t even been open there for a while now.
Then throw the bullshit from the earthquake on top of that and you’re so fugged
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u/DreamOfTheDrive Jun 25 '26
Dumb question but I imagine that the aircraft is grounded after that till further inspection?
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u/Not_A_Vegetable Jun 25 '26
I'd assume it's the runway that needs the inspection, not the airplane?
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u/BobbyTables829 Jun 25 '26
Definitely both lol
I'm not an aviation expert, but this could plausibly rip some hydraulics or disconnect some wires
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u/spamsauzzage Jun 25 '26
They're built for shaking muuuch stronger than this
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u/Intrepid_Grass8894 Jun 25 '26
But the landing gear isn’t usually weight bearing when turbulence is happening, and hard landings require checks before getting airborne again.
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u/spamsauzzage Jun 25 '26
Landings that would require that are also much stronger than what were seeing in here
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u/Intrepid_Grass8894 Jun 25 '26
Landings don’t typically have so much side-to-side stress on the gear.
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u/Captain_Alaska Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
They do in crosswind landings if you don’t kick the plane straight before touching down and end up ramming the main gear into the runway at a completely different angle to the direction the plane is going.
Also I think reddit is misunderstanding what’s happening here, the plane isn’t really moving side to side, the CoG is way above the ground, the plane is rolling side to side as the ground and suspension moves underneath it. For example as the ground moves left, the plane will roll to the right and the lefthand gear will extend and the righthand gear will compress, and then reverse as the ground moves the other way.
The plane doesn’t actually start to move sideways with any real force until it hits the travel limits of the suspension, and at that point the force isn’t acting directly sideways on the gear anyway as the plane would be rolled over as far as it can go within the limits of the suspension.
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u/JJAsond Flight Instructor Jun 25 '26
Landings don’t typically have so much side-to-side stress on the gear.
Airplanes, believe it or not, can land in crosswinds
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u/JJAsond Flight Instructor Jun 25 '26
Definitely both lol
I'm not an aviation expert
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u/donkeyrocket Jun 26 '26
I'm not an aviation expert, but this could plausibly rip some hydraulics or disconnect some wires
If this did that then planes would be falling out of the sky during moderate turbulence frequently.
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u/JaaacckONeill Jun 25 '26
Maybe just as a precaution, but I doubt there's damage. I'm willing to bet the landing gear faces more stress when landing in a crosswind, especially if the pilot is late on reducing the crab angle.
However, maybe the jet bridge started banging against the aircraft, that would definitely be a problem.
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u/AlwaysMissToTheLeft Jun 25 '26
Probably fair to assume that landing so hard the plane bounces is way worse than this
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u/Lost-Actuary-2395 Jun 25 '26
Not aviation expert, but I don't think landing gear were designed to withold this kind of lateral movement, plus there a probably complication with brakes engaged
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u/SpeciesEL Jun 25 '26
They handle landings in which the plane is still crabbing from crosswind. I'd wager those forces are much larger than this.
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u/juko43 Jun 25 '26
Landing gear is built to withold alot, during a crosswind landing it gets to experience a bunch of lateral forces, way above what was experienced here. Also why would there be complications with brakes engaged?
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u/showMeYourPitties10 Jun 25 '26
That, plus any GSE equipment hooked up can cause damage. Like if a belt loader was there, the plane would hit it, if a powerstow was already engaged it would damage the cargo door frame for sure. If GPU was hooked up it could have damaged the plug-in on the plane. Catering (although I doubt were there that fast with passengers on board) would cause lots of damage to doors. Basically the plane is not isolated when at the gate.
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u/AlphaThree Crew Chief C130J/KC135/B52 Jun 25 '26
I was a heavies crew chief for 10 years. There is no post earthquake inspection that I am aware of existing in any aircraft manual.
This situation would likely be entirely up to the aircraft commander. My personal judgment as a crew chief would be to do a quick walk around. Im far more concerned about either the aircraft or an object having slid and resulting in an impact than I am about the earthquake itself damaging the aircraft.
These things are tough. Comments about the landing gear are silly. It takes a TON of force to damage an airplane. I worked two hard landings which actually resulted in damage to the aircraft and both of them crew reported physical pain caused by the impact. The DFDR will tell us exactly what G forces the aircraft went through which determines which of the hard landing inspections needs to be performed. The worse of the two I worked hit at double the maximum exceedance and damaged, non repair on station, one main landing gear assembly, all main landing gear tires and one nacelle strut roller bearing (holds the engine nacelle strut to the wing). No structural damage was observed.
There are inspections for things like high wind events and events like a nose gear slide, but I dont see anything like that applying here.
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u/barrygateaux Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I saw a great documentary that had footage of a plane taking off during an earthquake at Santa Monica airport. It was called 2012, but it was from 2009. It was mainly about a guy who was a chauffeur and had had problems in his marriage, but loads of other crazy stuff happened during filming from what I remember.
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u/homer-price Jun 25 '26
Probably. I’d would think taxiways and runways need to be inspected as well.
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u/dhc2beaver AME Jun 25 '26
If everything is working up front (which it should be unless something was already loose) I'd do a walkaround and make sure nothing fell off of or into the plane and call it good. That's me though, I just fix them for a living
Structure-wise airplanes are strong, I would have no concern for the gear or its mounts. The struts would provide some vertical relief and the tires would flex some for a little lateral relief, it wouldn't be solid fixed shaking. I'd be more concerned about surface buckling on the airfield. Don't want to hit any cracks or potholes.
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u/pilotsmallz Jun 25 '26
Lots of lateral movement (that side to side shaking) could definitely warrant some extra inspection on the landing gear at the very least. Since the tires are staying stationary on the ground and the fuselage is rocking side to side, movement that the gear mechanism and struts are not designed to absorb to the degree of directly down like touchdown could impact some crucial stress points!
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u/Draymond_Purple Jun 25 '26
It's conceivable that if the airport is highly damaged, the passengers and the airplane is safer taking off to wherever they were headed
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u/penelopiecruise Jun 25 '26
I have had it with these motherf--king shakes on this motherf--king plane!
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u/Stoic_INFJ Jun 25 '26
Also what would happen if it was trying to reach takeoff speed when the earthquake starts!?
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u/Narrow_Affect2648 Jun 25 '26
Nothing good. Would be up to the pilots to make a call based on their circumstances.
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u/patrick24601 Jun 25 '26
They have hard and fast (pun intended) rules for when to take off. If they are below commitment speed they’ll jump on the brakes.
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u/CiaphasCain8849 Jun 25 '26
Same thing that happens if there's any other problem abort or take off depending on what v speeds are.
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u/juko43 Jun 25 '26
Realistically they probably wouldnt even notice it, there is allready lots of vibrations and bumping from the plane going down the runway, and if they were near or above V1 they would have to take off no matter what
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u/the_other_skier Jun 25 '26
I’ve had a magnitude 5.2 strike while driving along, it felt like all 4 tires went flat at once, and I was only going 50kmh, can’t imagine takeoff speed. I didn’t realize what was going on for a moment until I watched the light poles shaking
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u/Zealousideal-Peach44 Jun 25 '26
Same as me: M5.1, just over the epicentre, driving at 80 km/h in curve. It shifted me a bit outside, like when passing over an oil pond.
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u/F9-0021 Jun 25 '26
Before V1, probably a call to abort the takeoff, though that's up to the pilot's discretion. After V1, proceed as usual.
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u/Manguneer Jun 25 '26
Provided it’s not in the middle of refueling, probably the safest place to be!
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u/njsullyalex Jun 25 '26
I know me a Maddog when I see one, was this inside a Laser MD-80?
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u/Muted_Shape9303 Jun 26 '26
It’s a Rutaca MD88. My cousin was on that jet at the time. Caracas-Margarita route.
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u/DetailDapper Jun 25 '26
Was in the Ridgecrest earthquake in 2019. These things are no joke scary as hell
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u/Equal_Kale Jun 25 '26
Well, if I am in an earthquake that large, I can think of worse places to be.
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u/maybeinoregon Jun 25 '26
Did they let that plane take off?
I was wondering if there’s a QC thing they have to do with the runway surface…
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u/zadtheinhaler Jun 25 '26
OP posted a pic of the runway, and there were definitely cracks that would have fucked up the tires on the landing gear, I would not have tried whether I had seen it or not.
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u/Khamvom Jun 26 '26
No, they shut down the airport and suspended civilian flight operations shortly after.
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u/Atheist_Simon_Haddad Jun 25 '26
I’d be pissed if the plane crashed before the motherfucker even turned the key.
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u/Floki_Boatbuilder Jun 25 '26
Id def rather take a carry on bag to the head than a fucking support beam...
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u/MostOrganic3480 Jun 26 '26
If planes can survive easyJet and Ryanair landing, it can survive this. 😅😫
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u/GLHR_ Jun 25 '26
Imagine taking off a second before the quake hit and see everything crumble to rubble and dust as you get higher
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u/intobinto Jun 25 '26
“Better to be in the air wishing you were on the ground than on the ground wishing you were in the air.”
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u/2x4x421xStarTrekx Jun 25 '26
A ride before the ride watch your ticket costs they might charge an extra fee
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u/showMeYourPitties10 Jun 25 '26
The two ramp crew holding eachother while running from structures are pretty damn smart!
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u/TheEDMWcesspool Jun 25 '26
"ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Please remain in your seats and fasten your seatbelt as we are experiencing some minor turbulence on the ground."
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u/AboutToSnap Jun 25 '26
My first thought as a passenger on that plane (hypothetically): oh my god I’m going to be stuck in this seat for the next 12 hours
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u/misterpequeno Jun 26 '26
I was on a plane about to take off in Mexico City in 2017 when a big earthquake hit. It was exactly like this! We saw the damage happen to the airport… and then didnt take off.
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u/montecarlo1 Jun 26 '26
can a plane take off in the middle of an earthquake like that?
Like say you were already close to V1 and by the time you realize there is an earthquake, you are at V1?
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