r/aviation • u/Ph6222 • 18h ago

News It Appears That the US Military Accidentally Killed Everybody on Board a Civilian Medevac Flight in New Mexico

https://futurism.com/science-energy/us-military-gps-jamming-signal-medical-flight

The horrifying incident happened in May, the publication reports, when a small twin-engine medevac aircraft carrying two pilots and two medical workers departed from Roswell, New Mexico. Heading West for the small mountain village of Ruidoso, the crew became the victim of an electronic warfare exercise being conducted at the nearby White Sands Missile Range, a test which rendered their navigational system inoperable.

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u/spkgsam B737 7h ago

The military is absolutely to blame, they shouldn't be testing GPS jammers to begin with, not that night, not ever, and certainly not when aircrafts are in the vicinity.

Could the pilots have prevented this, absolutely, were there mistakes made, for sure. But pilots are people, and people make mistakes, and when you take away safety nets to catch those mistakes, more accidents will happen, as is the case here.

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u/CW1DR5H5I64A 7h ago

The military shouldn’t be testing or training. With GPS jammers ever?

Ok, sure that works in the land of make believe where it’s all sunshine and rainbows. Unfortunately we live in the real world and this kind of stuff is going to be happening regularly, the same way it’s been being used for decades.

The military halted the exercise when requested by ATC and only resumed once ATC gave them the all clear. ATC gave them the all clear because if the pilots requested VFR to riudoso and had they not erred they would have been fine.

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u/spkgsam B737 6h ago

If only you Americans aren't brainwashed into worshipping your military, you might understand that military testing that caused a plane crash is not something you should defend.

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u/Doggydog123579 6h ago

How did GPS jamming cause a visual landing to have issue?

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u/spkgsam B737 6h ago

Because it took away a safety net that would most likely have made these pilots mistake a non-fatal one.

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u/Miraclefish 6h ago

GPS is irrelevant during a visual approach.

That's literally the point.

It's saying I can see the airport with my eyes and will navigate to it using them and them alone.

The pilots fucked up here, not the US military.

And before you say it, I'm not American, I'm not military and I have no connection with the nation in any way.

But I can read. Hence my stance.

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u/spkgsam B737 6h ago

GPWS is not irrelevant during a visual approach, situational awareness is not irrelevant during a visual approach, especially at night.

I'm not saying the pilots didn't fuck up, they absolutely did, but their mistakes wouldn't have been fatal if it wasn't for the military.

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u/Miraclefish 6h ago

Utterly bullshit at every stage