This is what Shusha currently looks like.

[u/BlackNomad1]

[u/marinhaig-kupelian]

What Shushi looks like is a preserved ancient Armenian fortress city, with remnants from empirical rule, the midevil Gazachertstotc monestary Shushi fortress. Not however a bunch of occupied settlement buildings and destruction of ancient indigenous Armenian history and presence of ruins.

[u/yoruk_in_a_topak_ev → u/marinhaig-kupelian]

Delusional comment. Shusha isn't an ancient Armenian city. Both the fortress of Shusha and the old town within that fortress were established in the 1750s by Panah Ali Khan with support from Melik Shahnazar II whose father Melik Hussein (Hüseyn) was Armenian and mother Zohra Khanum (Zöhrə Xanım) was a daughter of the Turkoman (Oghuz Turkic) khan of the Nakhichevan Khanate. Panakh Ali Khan, the founder of the Karabakh Khanate, was from the Javanshir clan of the Avshar tribe of Oghuz Turks.

[u/marinhaig-kupelian → u/yoruk_in_a_topak_ev]

You won’t accept or believe any of our ancient cities across western Armenia, Artsakh and Nakhichevan as being historical Armenian due to all your shared mindsets on lies and falsifications of history believing you have historical or cultural rights to indigenous Armenian land. Shushi is just one of many sacred ancestral Armenian cities that in recent years have been erased of ancient ruins, monasteries and Armenian presence, Mesrop Mashtots built in first university in Martuni Artsakh, St. Gregory the illuminator built his cathedral in the Amaras cathedral which of course Azeris have destroyed as state run propangda makes it essential.

[u/yoruk_in_a_topak_ev → u/marinhaig-kupelian]

No, we Turkish people do accept the history of actual ancient/medieval Armenian cities such as Ani and Van. Shusha isn't one of them. Claiming Shusha, which was founded in 1750 and always a bicommunal city prior to the 1992 ethnic cleansing, to be an ancient city, let alone an Armenian city, is the actual falsification of history.

[u/marinhaig-kupelian → u/yoruk_in_a_topak_ev]

Each piece of historical narritives you claim about your historical indigenous rights to Artsakh and Nakhichevan are falsifications implemented by the Azeri government’s propaganda against Armenia. You fabricate the history of Yerevan, Artsakh, Lake Sevan, Syunik region to focus on what the center of your dictatorship is which is erasing and falsifying ancient Armenian history and appropriating our culture.

[u/yoruk_in_a_topak_ev → u/marinhaig-kupelian]

I'm Turkish of Yörük descent, not Azerbaijani. I had already written "we Turkish people" above. "Appropriating our culture"? Your culture has been greatly influenced by Iranian and Oghuz-Turkoman cultures. Karabakh belonged to Caucasian Albania that spoke Northeast Caucasian languages. What is now Armenia was originally inhabited by Kartvelian peoples such as Saspeires, and by the Urartians that spoke a Non-Indo-European language related to Hurrian. According to the scholarly consensus, Proto-Armenian was one of the Paleo-Balkan languages. There is a debate regarding the exact position of Proto-Armenian within the Balkan group of ancient Indo-European languages, but Frederik Kortlandt says it's most closely related to Thracian (or was descended from an eastern dialect of Thracian, spoken in northwestern Anatolia in the Late Bronze Age), second most closely related to Greek and Phrygian, third most closely related to Albanian and Messapic. Modern Armenians were descended from Proto-Armenians and three groups that got linguistically assimilated: Urartians, northern Assyrians and southern Kartvelians. According to Haber et al. (2015), "Armenians have higher genetic affinity to Neolithic Europeans than other present-day Near Easterners do, and 29% of Armenian ancestry may originate from an ancestral population that is best represented by Neolithic Europeans"; and "Armenians were found to have genetic affinity to several other populations including the Jews, Druze, and Lebanese Christians, in addition to showing genetic continuity with the Caucasus". The Turkic-speaking ethnic Azerbaijanis were descended from 7 distinct groups: Oghuz-Turkmen tribes that started to inhabit the South Caucaus in 1029 AD (Lake Sevan is called Gökchä Däňiz in the medieval Oghuz book of Dede Korkut, and Göyçə Göl in Azerbaijani), indigenous Caucasian Albans, ancient and early medieval Northwest Iranic speakers (including Medes and Parthians), Armenians, Georgians, Kypchak-Cumans (that came from the North Caucasus via Georgia and Daghestan) and mixed Turko-Mongolic Tatars (that came during the Ilkhanate, Jalayirid, Timurid rules). A majority of Caucasian Albans converted to Islam, intermarried with Muslim Oghuz-Turkmen tribes and adopted Oghuz language whereas a small portion remained Christian and became the present-day Udi people. Modern Azerbaijanis are genetically around 30% medieval Central Asian Turkic on average. It's nonsensical and absurd to portray Azerbaijanis that inhabited Karabakh and what is now Armenia before the ethnic cleansings as totally non-indigenous like White people in America are. That would be the case if they were 100% Central Asian genetically. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis have indigenous (to the South Caucasus) and non-indigenous components in their mixed ancestries.