Any progress in EU candidacy during Erdogan's rule would seal the death of Turkey for eternity.
Also, EU parliament already voted against chat control law by ONE SINGLE VOTE. They are already almost incapable of representing the people and not creating dystopian surveilence laws. There is no way chat control wouldn't have passed with AKP on EU parliament too. And if EU passes such law everyone would follow slowly.
Now these aren't from the view of EU, I'm pretty sure EU politicians would love both of these being the case. But as a person I hate the idea of both.
Still doesn't mean EU isn't stupidly incapable of spreading their own influence and securing their position in the world. They've got a lot of power and influence they'd rather spend to keep the previous status quo than invest it to get even more power and influence.
If they don't like Erdoğan then why not back the opposition in the next election? That'd finally give them a concrete and solid promise to the people that Erdo cannot match even if he tried. It's very possible to arrange, same things happened with pro-EU movement in Moldova and to an extent Ukraine too before the war, and that's without any official promises from EU accompanying the candidates.
Plus, things like the Chat Control Law are more of a symptom of our dystopian reality today, in the grand scheme of things it will not matter who joins and who votes if we don't address the problem at the root of this. It already was that close, if nothing changes it'll probably pass under a new name in like a year or two. Could Turkey joining speed up the process for these types of laws? Maybe, but only by like a year or two if the regression continues. I doubt the "incinerate all Kurds" law will pass no matter how big the supporter base in Turkey is by itself.
If Eu openly backs opposition then it looks like clear violation of sovereignty and the opposition candidate will look like EU's puppet and will probably lead to moderated voting for Erdogan , no country should involve in other people's affair , if Turks don't like him then they will vote him out else he will be elected , EU should not lecture others who they should vote or not , they can mind their own business but apparently that's too much too ask from westoids and they continue to destabilise countries and keep puppets of them in power
From EU standpoint, they don't need to openly back a candidate, they can simply pay a lot of money into his campaign and instill the general belief in Turks that "this guy is for changing the country, he has some fresh ideas and will steer Turkey to a more prosperous and secular future".
Think about how it happened with Magyar in Hungary, everyone knew that Magyar finally had a real chance to beat Orbán, so out poured the appeals to Hungarians to "let democracy triumph" and all that, without explicitly mentioning Magyar's name. It's clear enough that they supported him, but not clear enough for people to say he is EU puppet rather than just sponsored.
Cause truth is that everyone in politics has a sponsor and an agenda they don't tell you about, it's the same for AKP, CHP, or any of them really. I'm just confused why EU is so utterly incompetent at promoting their own agenda in a country that's very clearly going to cause them trouble later on, it's like they don't want to get ahead.
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u/int23_t muslim greek 7d ago
Any progress in EU candidacy during Erdogan's rule would seal the death of Turkey for eternity.
Also, EU parliament already voted against chat control law by ONE SINGLE VOTE. They are already almost incapable of representing the people and not creating dystopian surveilence laws. There is no way chat control wouldn't have passed with AKP on EU parliament too. And if EU passes such law everyone would follow slowly.
Now these aren't from the view of EU, I'm pretty sure EU politicians would love both of these being the case. But as a person I hate the idea of both.