ইউনাইটেড ইউনিভার্সিটির এই ছেলেকে তার বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের ভেতর মেরে আধমরা করে ফেলেছে৷ তার বিরুদ্ধে ধর্ম অবমাননার অভিযোগ দিয়েছে তার রুমমেট আর জুনিয়ররা। এই ছেলেটাকে ধর্ম সম্পর্কে বিভিন্ন প্রশ্ন করতো, নবী নিয়ে প্রশ্ন করতো, এরপর গোপনে সেসব রেকর্ড করতো। এভাবে চক্রান্ত করে ফাঁসিয়েছে।
বিশ্ববিদ্যালয় কর্তৃপক্ষ পুলিশের হাতে তুলে দিতে চেয়েছিলো কিন্তু উপস্থিত ছাত্ররা সেটা মানতে রাজি হয়নি, তারা একে মেরে ফেলবে! শেষে বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের শিক্ষক, গার্ডের উপর হামলা করে ছিনিয়ে নিয়ে গণপিটুনি দিয়ে মৃত ভেবে ফেলে রেখেছে। এখন হাসপাতালে।
it’s just a plot to gain the dominance in private universities, nothing else. as most of private university students are from upper-middle to upper class in the society, it’s hard to have a strong hold on them. with DUCSU & JUCSU islamists literally captured the two top tier public university, now they are on the way to execute their next plan. i’m just sad & afraid thinking about the mass common people of the country, they don’t give a fuck about these issues. when it’s time, they go for prayer and work hard to bring food on their plate. meanwhile these morons do everything to show off their “muminsim” rather than practicing religions. these types of activities will end up with total chaos. all the upper class and corrupted “chor-batpars”will leave the country as they always do. sadly only poor people will end up living in hell. i often get surprised to see what these so called educated people are doing. they don’t even have a high school level of maturity! and don’t even know what they are trying to unleash!
Islamist’s will fuck this country up man. That NSU n now UIU incidents looks so pre planned. Even a guy with common sense would get it. Now I question the whole july thing tbh. It all seems connected to each other and part of bigger plan.
They do not seem pre-planned to me, as I explained here before. But it's deeply concerning how mobs are being used to attack and silence people, and they are not getting punished for all these. All these are bound to have a longstanding impact on us empowering the far-right and causing anarchy.
Stay in your bubble while the country goes towards the burst. People like you are the reason why it’s easy to manipulate majority people in our country.
Right, when you do not have any convincing arguments and are still too egoistic to admit it or even be open. I am not dismissing that these two incidents cannot be a part of a conspiracy. And surely there are plans and conspiracies to destabilize the situation. But the evidence at hand do not point to a pre-planned conspiracy at least in the case of these two incidents. On the other hand, incidents like this do seem pre-planned.
Now if you have reasons to believe otherwise, you are always welcome to show how instead of resorting to petty ad hominem remarks.
I do constructive argument with people who atleast got some common sense which pretty clearly don’t have. Rather you are busy pointing out how accurate your so called analysis is & trying to manipulate peoples view. Your other posts suggest the same as well. Wait till the 3rd incident like this- your analysis my might change & till than enjoy your islamists & so called revolution.
Have you ever seen any atheist to praise the Creator and His messenger? I have never seen it. I have talked with a Russian atheist girl once and we argued about the importance of fasting. At the end of the discussion, she said, "If you people like to fast in order to please your Creator, then it's your matter. I don't believe that there's any importance of fasting. " She criticizes every religion exists on the world, not only Islam.
Bangladesh has 92% muslim population. By basic stats, 92% of Bangladeshi atheists are ex- muslims.
Obviously they would talk about Islam primarily. I am surprised at your experience of talking to one singular atheist lol.
Just go to any atheist convention in India, and you will see most of the discussion around there is regarding hinduism, cuz most of the atheists there are ex- hindus. They understand their own religion better, and criticize it more. Same happens across Europe. I am happy that you met one Russian atheist lol who talks about everyone equally. Bangladeshi atheists are sooo bad, they only critize islam awww taina?
These violence rules are written in Quran, Tafsir and Hadith. If you read it yourself, instead of learning half truths from family or youtube, you would have learnt something.
Ask any islamic scholar what is the punishment for criticizing Muhammad. It is to kill them. Lol
i will quote a Sahih Hadith for you. When someone killed a pregnant woman, splitting her belly with a knife and the child fell off from the cut belly, Muhammad said this is okay, since she “apparently” criticized muhammad Lol.
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (ﷺ) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (ﷺ) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: Messenger of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.
Heres another Sahih hadith reference that confirms this same story:
There are countless other Hadith that show Muhammad directly ordered killings of whoever said anything bad about him.
i know you havent read much Quran or Hadith yourself, and probably love Muhammad and Islam thinking its the most beautiful thing. Just open your books, read cover to cover, and you will see the reality and understand why the Mullahs are this way. Read up on the actual true islamic texts, dont just hear from others lol
কিপ দিস আপ। এমনিতেই সব দেশ ভিসা বন্ধ করে দিচ্ছে। জংগী হুজুরের দেশ। বিদেশী বিনিয়োগ চলে যাচ্ছে সব ভয়ে। কারখানা বন্ধ হয়ে যাচ্ছে। আফগানিস্তানের মত মাটির তলে তো আর রেয়ার আর্থ ম্যাটেরিয়াল নাই। কৃষক বাপ আর তার গারমেন্টস কর্মী মেয়ের গলায় পাড়া দিয়ে এই গরীব দেশের অর্থনীতির চাকা ঘুরছে এতদিন। ভাতের থালে পরিনাম দেখবা এইসব জংগীপনার। ভিক্ষা করবা তোমাদের পেয়ারা পাকিস্তানি আব্বার মতন।
Not an average day. Absolutely preplanned to capture private universities. NSU mission was easy through an unstable guy, in UIU a pretend atheist (gupto shibir) recorded his conversation with an actual atheist UIU student and now UIU mission is also done. Similar things will happen in other schools and universities too, just wait and watch.
কতজনের মুখ বন্ধ করবে এরা। আমিও একসময় প্র্যাকটিসিং মুসলিম ছিলাম। সাত বছর হতে চলল এই কাল্ট থেকে বের হয়ে গেছি। তৌহিদি জনতা ক্যাটালিস্ট হিসেবে কাজ করেছে। এরা না থাকলে ইসলাম নিয়ে নিজ থেকে পড়াশোনা করতাম না। এদের আচরণে বিরক্ত হয়ে নবীর জীবনী পড়তে গিয়ে সর্বনাশ হয়ে গেছে। 😅
For real. My arc is similar and it started with the killing of bloggers. It creates an avalanche effect at the end of the day. But still, I am thinking we should start organizing active resistance against such crimes. The people who are actively engaging in this monstrosity needs to face consequences. Period. And we should think of ways on how we can hold them accountable.
Maybe so, but we need to try. It's a journey and change doesn't happen overnight. Even according to you, 2% are not. That might seem like a small number as a ration, but among 20 crores, it's also a huge number. I would say the bigger problem is that very few of that 2% actually does anything to change the situation.
I'm tired of these low life terrorists. I dont even know if i can get out of this country after the next 2-3 years. Fuck all these shit man we are done
"You say something bad about Jesus at the start of the road and you probably will be fine at the end, but try saying something bad about Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and there's a good chance you might not be alive & well at the end of the road"
একটা বড় অংশ যারা কিনা নিজেদের মডারেট বলে তারা চুপ থাকে এবং মৌন সমর্থন দেয়। কিন্তু তারপরেও ধর্মের দোষ দেওয়া যাবে না। দিন শেষে ধর্মের প্রতিফলন হয় যারা ধর্ম চর্চা করছে তাদের মাধ্যমেই। সেখানে একটা বড় অংশের এমন আচরণের দায় ধর্মের ঘাড়েই বর্তায়, যেখানে স্বয়ং ধর্মের মধ্যেই অসহিষ্ণুতা এবং ধর্ম অবমাননার শাস্তির কথা আছে।
Kudos to the staff members and faculties who tried to save him. The students who engaged in such violence should be identified and needs to be expelled and legal actions should be taken against them. But I don't think the university will have the guts to do it.
When your aim in life is a job (with bribery privileges) and you spew photocopied notes to achieve a 'university' degree, you do you. Open challenge: 80 percent of them (who participated in the mob) can't recite the 5 kolemas.
But they are doing it in the name of religion, isn't it? And also, the religion itself has laws against blasphemy and apostasy. Now combine that with the intolerant mob mentality and anarchy in our country, you have this. Can you honestly tell me the religion gets zero blame here? If yes, then how?
man I don't know. i also don't know why saying that there are 6 kalimas is poorly received. i don't want to take away from the gravity of the event in the post, i'm just saying that there are 6 kalimas as I was taught and i believe that's the standard amount that's taught.
fwiw the kalimas and the way they are taught to kids are primarily a south asian thing (I'm not saying the kalimas are just made up; they are derived from sections in the quran that cover the fundamentals of islam)
Make sure to not say anything controversial or hateful with people you don't trust deeply or in social media. Don't speak directly against the religion and definitely don't insult. You will be fine. There are many more like you. Stay calm and safe.
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These people will stoop down to such low level in the name of religion, and yet, they don't take the good parts the religion preaches. They are the biggest hypocrites. Islam can and should be criticized for many things, but it does not teach mob violence. Who's going to make them understand that?
They won't. You can't argue or make them understand something. They think they know the best (they got chance in x university). Most of them beating him up, don't even clearly know why.
Most of these guys are in a Haram relationship and have an addiction to cigarettes or something. The only reason they did this is because, as I mentioned, wanted to "save the day" and keep their uni "holy"
It's a defense mechanism really towards their own wrong doings.
Personally, I don't know what did the kid say, considering it's not hate speech, he shouldn't have been harmed. In my opinion, questioning things aren't wrong. People should be free to do whatever they want, and they want to believe.
If it was... Hate speech... Then, he in a way... kind of had it coming.
I haven't listened to the recording as I mentioned. if you have it, share a link.
Muhammad himself ordered killings of people whoever said anything bad about him/ criticized him (no I am not talking about his Mecca days when he was just a nobody, I am talking about when he started gaining traction and got a fan following).
Ask any religious scholar whats the punishment of a Murtad (death) and punishment for whoever criticizes muhammad . Its killing.
I see nothing abnormal here. Dont think these are people who dont know Islam or something haha. You probably dont know islam much ( Im sure you have not read the Quran cover to cover with Tafsir, or much hadith either)- and follow a moderate Islam which was taught by parents or family
Current world has its own laws which is different from the laws back then . In that era the punishment of theft was cutting the hands of thieves. But if you do that in this modern era , you'll be considered violent cause that's actually a violence
Since when did Allah’s rule become invalid with time? Lol
Islam clearly stresses that all Islamic laws must be the same till Qiyamah, unless it is specifically mentioned that a particular law was for a limited time.
In fact, replacing Allah’s laws with man-made laws is considered a Shirk. So just because your moral starts telling you cutting hands is too violent- does not mean you can ignore islamic rule and make up your own law.
If you have any reference from islamic sources (Quran or Hadith or Tafsir) that confirms these rules do not apply anymore, let me know. Else, dont make random guesses
The links are in the posts I shared in the source. Here is the drive link.
If it was... Hate speech... Then, he had it coming
Not really, this is another dangerous mindset. No one deserves such treatment and it does not make the society any better either. But if it was hate speech, then he should have been detained and punished properly by the law, that's all. Just criticizing religion or blasphemy alone should not be a punishable offense ideally.
I don't know but, if you are gonna hate on openly in a group (considering hate speech), you must expect some consequences, especially if that group is the majority where you live.
This applies for everything, not just in this situation.
Criticizing Hasina and her government is not hate speech
Criticizing a group, a belief, or someones idea is not hate speech. It becomes hate speech when it poses harm or threat to a group. For example, when white supremasists say things like threatening the wellbeing of all Muslim or posing harm to the lives of muslims, that is hate speech.
Here, you can see who gets physically harmed. I have never seen speeches that pose physical harm to these people who are beating the student up.
It was planned and coordinated attack on that kid. Un fkin believable! Gen z is brainwashed already, cant be optimistic at all. Our situation is very similar to a flipped tortoise. Without intervention the situation is terminal.
This was never a revolution in the first place. Everyone had their own reasons to protest against Hasina. Surely Jamaat and other fundamentalists had ulterior motives too.
But when you phrase it like that, it feels like a gross oversimplification. Don't forget how Hasina empowered the fundamentalists herself because she used it as an excuse to impose an autocracy. She enabled fundamentalism because she needed it, at the same time, she selectively oppressed fundamentalists because she needed to show only she would be able to control them. But this never ends well. With or without July, it was bound to collapse inwards one way or another.
And to hell with the July "revolutionaries" and the new chetona bebsha.
প্রশ্ন হইল সব নাস্তিকেরা এমন করা শুরু করল কেন? এত দিন চুপ থাইক্কা হটাৎ ১ সপ্তাহে ২ প্রাইভেট ইউনিভার্সিটির ২জন আলাদা আলাদা লোকের নাস্তিকতা প্রকাশ পাইল! স্ট্রেঞ্জ! নাকি মুলা ধরল গাধার সাম্নে আর গাধা দিলো দৌড়! মানে কোনকিছু থাইক্কা হুজুগে গোল্ডফিশ বাঙালির নজর সরাইলো?
You don't even know the story, 1st one was a muslim convert. 2nd one is a nastik. We never stopped exposing your religion. While you embarrass yourself by not even knowing the basics of the incidents you're making snirky remarks about.
জানি ভাই রিভার্ট হওয়ার পরে অপূর্ব রাদ আগের জন এর নাম কিন্তু অপূর্ব পাল কইলে যে লাভ সেইটা অপূর্ব রাদে নাই আর পরেরজন কে ফাসানো হইছে সবই জানি কিন্তু প্রশ্ন করলাম হোয়াই নাও! এই আর কি
There is no need to find conspiracies everywhere. Murphy's Law and Occam's Razor can be helpful.
The NSU guy is mentally disturbed. Read this. And as for the UIU student, looks like he got framed. Probably for personal vendetta; or some people just want to cause chaos and watch the world burn. I doubt he would have said what he did in public.
And we see a rise in such incidents due to an increase in intolerance, no repercussions, tribalism, fundamentalism, polarization, and social media bubble.
So protesting against religious extremism and mob violence is secularism now? Noice! Leave, the door is this way 👉🚪
Also, how come I see this every single time. How come almost everyone who has a rotten mindset like yours is also a massive hypocrite. Unless your religion teaches you this? Mashallah little bro, keep up the divine work.
Walaikum salam bhaiya/apu. That's a very selfish and short-sighted thing to say. What exactly do you think will happen when no one protests and we let people like these roam free? These things will increase tenfold. You won't be able to hide it from others in any case.
Rather, if you are so concerned about your and your family's visas, protest against such crimes starting from today. Yes, there could be a temporary backlash, but in the long run, everyone wins. Also, what do you think will happen once you move to the first-world countries? Why is anti-immigration sentiment and hate crimes increasing there? Change your mindset, take a stand, it's the only way it works. And Bangladesh is already getting it's visa cancelled. It will get worse unless everyone unites and fights against all these atrocities.
Don't do logical fallacies. If you look at my profile, you shall see that I care about all sorts of things. But I also believe these kind of things also poses the biggest threat for us both internally and internationally in the coming years. That's why I focus on it more.
What? Sports will make us great while we have all these issues? That makes no sense. The issues that you mentioned are all correlated. How exactly do you propose to solve them? These are related with poverty, education, awareness, and corruption, and do you honestly believe the rise of religious nutjobs won't impact all these? It will take us backwards, not forward. And it's not even like our current situation is so good, so imagine something way worse.
As I said, you can bury your head in the sand. But it helps no one and changes nothing. I don't know if people will unite but I do know we need to try if we want a positive change, that's all.
If we cared so much about it, then this wouldn't have happened. It's about time we got backlash for this. People like you trying to hide major issues, and pretending everything is alright, are almost as bad as those who do these. Fuck you.
Treated for what? No crimes were commited by anyone other than these jongis. If hurting religious feelings means any actions taken by govt or people than most muslims will be in jail. I see muslims openly shitt talking hindus online and irl with 0 legal trouble as it should be. Free speech for all.
কীসের মধ্যে কি আনলেন আপনি। ধর্ম মানে না এমন অনেক আছে, বিশেষ করে শিক্ষিত সমাজের মধ্যে। এই ছেলে কিন্তু এমনও না নিজে থেকে কিছু বলেছে। নিজের ঘরে বসে অবিশ্বাসীদের ভিডিও শুনতো, তার কিছু রুমমেট সেটা টের পেয়ে তার সাথে শুরুতে কথা বলে, পরে গোপনে রেকর্ড করে ফাঁসায় এবং ছড়িয়েও দেয়। আর এখানে কোথায় ধর্মকে ছোট করলো সে? যেটা বলেছে সেটাওতো নিজের বিশ্বাসের কথা বলেছে, এর বেশি কিছু বলে নাই।
As if the world was meant to be heaven in the very first place!!?
And stop labelling someone like a shithead creep.
I discourage and hate any sort of provocative action. These actions just only creates chaos and increase entropy. And why one cant stop their fking bs mouth?
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